Did kashmiri Muslims shoot themselves in the foot ?

[scionoftheindus]

Did the kashmiri Muslims shoot themselves in the foot by killing and driving pandits away from kashmir ? Let me be completely Frank . I don't feel any pain looking at the injured protesters , even the ones whose eyes were hit by pellets (except the pics of a couple of kids ) . If I saw the same pictures from northeast, my heart would pain and I am sure millions of Indians would support if northeasterners want to go their way (which anyway is not the case..all northeasterners mingled with india and living peacefully ) .Then why do the same Indians turn a blind eye or in fact draw pleasure when these unruly mobs in kashmir are beaten black and blue ?

The only reason is Kashmir cause is not justified. It is built up by killing and raping thousands of Hindus ; by kicking away lakhs of people from their places where they had been living for thousands of years ; it is purely based on hatred for Hindus and india. You can never win hearts of others through hate. Hatred breeds hatred. It automatically becomes a game between you and us.

I strongly believe Kashmiris made a blunder by killing pandits; the moment you indulge in such violence you lose the moral justification of your cause. No human rights groups in India come forward and speak for Kashmiris because the moment they try to do that they would be labelled traitors ; hypocrites for not reacting in the same manner when kashmiri Hindus were annihilated ( which is of course true).

Many Hindus and Indians would have over a period of time ( as they are getting more educated by the day) would have agreed to a referendum in kashmir or who knows might have even forced their governments to have one. But now there is no chance for it. All the educated Indians know that how Hindus were treated in kashmir and what hate Kashmiris harbour for Hindus.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

You are absolutely right

They drove out Kashmiri Hindus BUT then INDIAN ARMY walked in

And the Rest is History

 

[Prince of Dorne]

There are plenty of people even in India who get diarrhea whenever this Pandit issue is raised. Their secularism,sympathy and tears are only reserved for the likes of Wani and Gurus.

And mind you, contrary to popular belief it was not only the terrorists, kashmiri locals played an instrumental role in driving the Pandits out. Sunni majority areas in Kashmir has already gone to dogs. We just need to make sure that the Dogras, shias and Buddists dont suffer the same fate as the Pandits.

As I mentioned in the other thread that Kashmiri sunnis has two options, either learn to live with kafirs or perish. We can not let a few thousand vocal and hostile ISIS wannabes dictate terms to us.

Our security personnel did a great job there, the message has been very clear, protesting and all is fine, but throwing grenades, snatching weapons from police or storming an airbase will get you killed

 

[Director General]

I think the main reason is because Kashmir is chant pro Pakistani slogans i.e. slogans supporting an enemy nation hence there is no sympathy for them.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

You guys completely forgot what happened to Jammu in 1947 and 1948; why do you think a quarter of Pakistan's Punjab descend from Kashmiris?

We were forced out by the millions; yet this is hardly being given any attention to.

 

[DesiGuy1403]

This is a religious war in Kashmir and nothing more.
The moment Valley is given, they will ask Bengal and then Kerala.

Only solution, keep up the same thing we have doing in Kashmir. If the religious fanatics want to take up arms, so be it. We can kill those terrorists.
And the religious fanatics coming out on streets supporting the terrorists, they will get maimed and loose their eyes. If they learn the lesson well and fine. If not, the religious bigots and terrorists will keep loosing life or eyes or legs or some other body part and live with hatred and regret for rest of their lives.

I remember what they did to Pandits. I ALSO REMEMBER NONE OF THESE MUSLIMS COMING OUT IN SUPPORT OF THE RAPED PANDIT WOMAN OR LITTLE GIRLS.

No sympathy from me for these terrorists and bigots.

 

[Prince of Dorne]

You guys completely forgot what happened to Jammu in 1947 and 1948; why do you think a quarter of Pakistan's Punjab descend from Kashmiris?

We were forced out by the millions; yet this is hardly being given any attention to.

Yeah sure MILLIONS!! you guys surely have an obsession over million .

Millions of Indian troops are there in Kashmir, Millions of muslims died in Gujarat riot lol

Try billion for a change

 

[Alpha BeeTee]

Yeah sure MILLIONS!! you guys surely have an obsession over million .

Millions of Indian troops are there in Kashmir, Millions of muslims died in Gujarat riot lol

Try billion for a change

Did you count for yourself how many innocent Kashmiris were thrown into unknown number of mass graves by your proud Indian Army ?

 

[Tamilnadu]

best for kashmiries is to study well,get jobs move out of kashmir and good jobs in any part of India and retire back to kashmir and live a peaceful and prosperous life. Or they can let few sunni extremists who are supported by people accross the border create peoblem for themselfs and others as well and have a non peaceful life.

 

[nik141993]

Did you count for yourself how many innocent Kashmiris were thrown into unknown number of mass graves by your proud Indian Army ?

far less than pakistan army & police kill people in fake encounters in a year

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

You guys completely forgot what happened to Jammu in 1947 and 1948; why do you think a quarter of Pakistan's Punjab descend from Kashmiris?

We were forced out by the millions; yet this is hardly being given any attention to.

You forgot what happened after the stupidity of your leaders which resulted in partition and massacre of Punjab and Bengal . Most Kashmiris Who migrated to Pakistan , did that during drought before independence . They lost the Kashmiri tag after independence .

If we use your logic , Pakistanis are Africans so whole African continent belongs to Pakistanis .

Kashmiri in India 5,527,698
Kashmiri in Pakistan 124,000

You are not even a Million .

 

[Indika]

Did the kashmiri Muslims shoot themselves in the foot by killing and driving pandits away from kashmir ? Let me be completely Frank . I don't feel any pain looking at the injured protesters , even the ones whose eyes were hit by pellets (except the pics of a couple of kids ) . If I saw the same pictures from northeast, my heart would pain and I am sure millions of Indians would support if northeasterners want to go their way (which anyway is not the case..all northeasterners mingled with india and living peacefully ) .Then why do the same Indians turn a blind eye or in fact draw pleasure when these unruly mobs in kashmir are beaten black and blue ?

The only reason is Kashmir cause is not justified. It is built up by killing and raping thousands of Hindus ; by kicking away lakhs of people from their places where they had been living for thousands of years ; it is purely based on hatred for Hindus and india. You can never win hearts of others through hate. Hatred breeds hatred. It automatically becomes a game between you and us.

I strongly believe Kashmiris made a blunder by killing pandits; the moment you indulge in such violence you lose the moral justification of your cause. No human rights groups in India come forward and speak for Kashmiris because the moment they try to do that they would be labelled traitors ; hypocrites for not reacting in the same manner when kashmiri Hindus were annihilated ( which is of course true).

Many Hindus and Indians would have over a period of time ( as they are getting more educated by the day) would have agreed to a referendum in kashmir or who knows might have even forced their governments to have one. But now there is no chance for it. All the educated Indians know that how Hindus were treated in kashmir and what hate Kashmiris harbour for Hindus.

Every thing was going correct for them, once the movement got hijacked by cross border jihadis , it was all but over.
Once it got linked with pakistan , they simply have become politically untouchables. With exodus of pandits their moral right to question others or evoke sympathy all but vanished. Pandits must be a unique case of being refugees within their own country.

You are absolutely right

They drove out Kashmiri Hindus BUT then INDIAN ARMY walked in

And the Rest is History

Its not only hindus but any one who does not agree with them. They just brought the army upon themselves. Even after communally charged riots like gujrat or terrorism in punjab , army is not seen . The current generation should should get the answers from their fathers & grand fathers not from govt of India. The army is just like a mirror it reminds them of their past and their deeds.

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

Pandits must be a unique case of being refugees within their own country..

Also Refugee within their own state , few miles away from their Mother land

 

[Prince of Dorne]

Did you count for yourself how many innocent Kashmiris were thrown into unknown number of mass graves by your proud Indian Army ?

No, I have got better things to do in my life

 

[Jamwal's]

Yeah sure MILLIONS!! you guys surely have an obsession over million .

Millions of Indian troops are there in Kashmir, Millions of muslims died in Gujarat riot lol

Try billion for a change