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DG ISPR on ICJ verdict: another 27th February for india...another surprise day!

You mean like Kashmir, 70+ years and y'all ended up with a broken economy

Gud 1. You got me.




Totally not the Afghan war. Those communications, people, ak 47s, yeah man, they cost billions of $.

Practically speaking United Nations has rejected Pakistani and Kashmiri appeals and claims too for plebiscite. They are saying, "We don't care but we won't say so. Settle it by fighting each other."

They haven't on paper, but practically speaking, yes. Which is why I think UN is garbage.
 
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Lets simplify it, shall we? You read it, I read it other, some others read it, but not everyone read it. So lets summarize it in straight points here on, and we will see if we can agree on it : )
ICJ ordered Pakistan to halt the execution of Jadhav until a final decision was made in the proceedings. While ICJ did not approve India's argument for release of Jadhav, it ruled that Pakistan “deprived India of the right to communicate and have access to Kulbhushan Jadhav, to visit him in detention and to arrange for his legal representation and thereby breached the obligations under Article 36, paragraph 1 (a) and (c), of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations”
 
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ICJ ordered Pakistan to halt the execution of Jadhav until a final decision was made in the proceedings. While ICJ did not approve India's argument for release of Jadhav, it ruled that Pakistan “deprived India of the right to communicate and have access to Kulbhushan Jadhav, to visit him in detention and to arrange for his legal representation and thereby breached the obligations under Article 36, paragraph 1 (a) and (c), of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations”

Halt isn't the correct word. They asked for a review by Pakistani courts (military) of the death sentence. They rejected India's request to annul the death sentence, why not quote that too? Buddy. We can see who's blind and biased.

And yes, that consular thing is one point. Want to list the rest : )
 
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Gud 1. You got me.




Totally not the Afghan war. Those communications, people, ak 47s, yeah man, they cost billions of $.
Y'all eff'ed up both sides. If only OBL wasn't found in Abbotabad and didn't sponsor terrorism in Kashmir, Pak would've been a better place. Y'all have been digging Uncle Sam's money and harboring US or the world's most wanted OBL
 
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ICJ never said military courts are sham or trial is sham.

In fact it rejected your appeal to annul death sentence given by the same courts

That is a fact. How hard it is to understand that?

It only given a chance to review death sentence (which Pakistan was giving anyways) and that too under Pakistani law and even that review can be done under military courts

Get out of what you were told by Times now or Republic TV or Zee news

Read the verdict yourself. Try to understand it objectively.

You are asking him to do the impossible !!!!

Bhens k samney been bajana koi tum se seekhey

I admire your fortitude & levels of energy
 
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Y'all eff'ed up both sides. If only OBL wasn't found in Abbotabad and didn't sponsor terrorism in Kashmir, Pak would've been a better place. Y'all have been digging Uncle Sam's money and harboring US or the world's most wanted OBL

I can truly argue on this. But this is not the topic on hand. If you want to know the truth, follow Asad Durrani's head to head interview, Musharraf's interview, or Hina Rabbani's interview, all 3 long gone from their posts and free of operational security shackles. Spoiler: ISI did not know where OBL was.

But like I said, not the topic at hand is it : )
 
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Man, these Indians simply lack English comprehension skills.

4 years and counting, y'all should've executed him by now if that's the case

you really believe hanging him was our plan at first place ? couldn't we just killed him 4 years back without dragging him on tv ? ...this was always our plan to bring Indian involvement in Pakistani security issues to public knowledge
 
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What evidence? It is just a perception.
Evidence of spreading terroism in balochistan karachi and fata. Not even that his own confessions and the evidence he provided . He was caught red handed inside Pakistan with fake passport with even the details of his funding to the American designated terrorist oganisation such as bla and ttp .
Look thing look different at that side of the border and i don't blame you for that.
Celebrate while you can.
Neither are you getting him back.
Neither are you having a new trial .
Basically had he been freed today and pakistan had to forcefully give him that would be the problem.
But this doesn't have any problem .
And the treaty of not giving consular access to spies is registered now in the un . Though a bit late but aplicable now. I hope whole heartedly that Pakistan would not give consular access due to that treaty.
And what he himself don't want a review or consular access. Last time he even accepted everything Infront of his mother.
What of he himself don't wnat anythings and issue a statement with a message that he has done wrong and let him be and serve his punishment and don't need a review and consular access as he is afraid that he has revealed so much to Pakistan that he fears his safety on India etc...
All in all he was not coming back .
And according to his health how long does he have left 5 to 10 years maybe. Which he can spend it our South Asian prisons. Tough personally want him to hang.
 
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THE COURT,
(1) Unanimously, Finds that it has jurisdiction, on the basis of Article I of the Optional Protocol concerning the Compulsory Settlement of Disputes to the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations of 24 April 1963, to entertain the Application filed by the Republic of India on 8 May 2017;

(2) By fifteen votes to one, Rejects the objections by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to the admissibility of the Application of the Republic of India and finds that the Application of the Republic of India is admissible

(3) By fifteen votes to one, Finds that, by not informing Mr. Kulbhushan Sudhir Jadhav without delay of his rights under Article 36, paragraph 1 (b), of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, the Islamic Republic of Pakistan breached the obligations incumbent upon it under that provision;

(4) By fifteen votes to one, Finds that, by not notifying the appropriate consular post of the Republic of India in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan without delay of the detention of Mr. Kulbhushan Sudhir Jadhav and thereby depriving the Republic of India of the right to render the assistance provided for by the Vienna Convention to the individual concerned, the Islamic Republic of Pakistan breached the obligations incumbent upon it under Article 36, paragraph 1 (b), of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations;

(5) By fifteen votes to one, Finds that the Islamic Republic of Pakistan deprived the Republic of India of the right to communicate with and have access to Mr. Kulbhushan Sudhir Jadhav, to visit him in detention and to arrange for his legal representation, and thereby breached the obligations incumbent upon it under Article 36, paragraph 1 (a) and (c), of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations;

(6) By fifteen votes to one, Finds that the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is under an obligation to inform Mr. Kulbhushan Sudhir Jadhav without further delay of his rights and to provide Indian consular officers access to him in accordance with Article 36 of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations;

(7) By fifteen votes to one, Finds that the appropriate reparation in this case consists in the obligation of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to provide, by the means of its own choosing, effective review and reconsideration of the conviction and sentence of Mr. Kulbhushan Sudhir Jadhav, so as to ensure that full weight is given to the effect of the violation of the rights set forth in Article 36 of the Convention, taking account of paragraphs 139, 145 and 146 of this Judgment;

(8) By fifteen votes to one, Declares that a continued stay of execution constitutes an indispensable condition for the effective review and reconsideration of the conviction and sentence of Mr. Kulbhushan Sudhir Jadhav.

Summary: Pakistan has violated international law by denying India consular access to Kulbhushan Jadhav, the International Court of Justice (ICJ) has ruled. The ICJ in the Hague, in a 15-1 decision, ruled that Pakistan had failed to inform Mr Jadhav of his rights, and deprived the Indian government "of the right to communicate with and have access to [him], to visit him in detention and to arrange for his legal representation".
"A continued stay of execution constitutes an indispensible condition for the effective review and reconsideration of the conviction and sentence,". The only judge to dissent was Tassaduq Hussain Jillani. ICJ president judge Abdulqawi Ahmed Yusuf, who read out the judgement, also directed Pakistan to review and reconsider the death sentence awarded to Jadhav under the provisions of the 1963 Vienna Convention that defines a framework for consular relations between countries


https://www.icj-cij.org/files/case-related/168/168-20190717-SUM-01-00-EN.pdf
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-48932951


Didn’t they know that sometimes « no contacts » is a pre requisite in situation where terrorists networks are the issue with one man caught ?

Why letting the spy to have contact with his handlers ? The risk is he could give crucial information to the enemy.
 
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Every thing is quite opposite in Pakistan.

It is rather an embarrassing day for Pakistan. Your sham military courts were questioned by ICJ.
Regarding Jhadav ICJ never said he is a spy.
What nonsense. ALL military courts are obviously going to be a "sham" to an enemy state. Did the Nazis think Nuremburg was fine and dandy for them??

If tomorrow India tries a pk spy in a military court, pk would refer to it as a sham too. Now the key take home message today is that the neutral court ICJ did not call it a sham at all. In fact they did not agree to India's demand that the military court's verdict be annulled. ICJ did great.

Come on ...were you expecting the ICJ to fall for your b.s. narrative? Did you think the "I" stood for "Indian"?
 
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ICJ ordered Pakistan to halt the execution of Jadhav until a final decision was made in the proceedings. While ICJ did not approve India's argument for release of Jadhav, it ruled that Pakistan “deprived India of the right to communicate and have access to Kulbhushan Jadhav, to visit him in detention and to arrange for his legal representation and thereby breached the obligations under Article 36, paragraph 1 (a) and (c), of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations”


No one enough sane will let terrorist to be in contact with his handlers.

Vienna or not Vienna !
 
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