Desalination Plants higher priority vs Oil refineries

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Considering the water shortages in Pakistan since 60's it is important to have desalination plants constructed ASAP in order to develop artificial sources of water

Suprised none of Saudia / Qatar or UAE were talked to about Water Distribution Investment opportunities in Pakistan

a) Lakes
b) Distribution network Canals for purified water from sea

Private investors should be invited to big on Desalination water plants and water should be sold to Provinces produced from these plants

Water could be purchased by Provinces for

a) Water supply needs for Industries
b) Water supply needs for city green plants and parks
c) Water supply need of areas which face water shortages

This is actually from Baluchistan bottom picture

 

[zulu]

Tried it last year as planned to import German desalination and reverse osmosis plants but when encounter Sindh govt bureaucracy bhai hum tu bhaag liye

 

[Indus Pakistan]

desalination plants constructed ASAP in order to develop artificial sources of water

As the process requires significant energy I suspect per unit cost is very high. Saudia Arabia, UAE etc have massive gas/oil energy reserves to power these plants. But Pakistan ~ we already have energy deficit with energy imports [gas/oil] being major reason for trade deficit. Would this not cause even greater pressure on trade deficit?

 

[313ghazi]

Yeah from what I understand it's a very expensive way to get water.

Might be cheaper to try some water reforms first. Stop water leaking, stop poisoning drinking water, use water better for agriculture, recycle waste water...

 

[Shah01]

Why not utilise the water efficiently. Build a few reservoirs and upgrade the canal system by lining it. Release water from reservoirs when needed. Drip irrigation and no till farming could also be introduced. The list is long and desalination plant isn't in it....

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Well Nuclear plants resolve the issue of Energy as they produce massive amount of electricity
Since Pakistan can make their own nuclear plan , 100% energy from it can be used for Desalination plant need's

Pakistan will get
a) Salt
b) Clean water

 

[zulu]

As the process requires significant energy I suspect per unit cost is very high. Saudia Arabia, UAE etc have massive gas/oil energy reserves to power these plants. But Pakistan ~ we already have energy deficit with energy imports [gas/oil] being major reason for trade deficit. Would this not cause even greater pressure on trade deficit?

If the demand is high can transfer the technology(which is not much rocket science ) also i always said(and ignored by everyone don't depend on import only try to import technology later to play with reverse engineering it ,mastering it or such.Said about solar panels 8 years ago but still people love to import it

 

[Shah01]

How much it will cost to build one nuclear power plant? Any workings.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Present Situation Gawadar

Sindh

Karachi

 

[Diggy]

Water desalination plants are a solution for small rich countries like Saudi , Israel but not for densely populated
bigger countries in south asia because the technology is still not cost optimized. I was really keen on why our government is sleeping on this but got a reality check after reading some articles.

For your consideration -

100 MLD ( 100000000 litres a day ) inauguration cost is Rs 450 Cr , yearly electricity operating cost comes
to 45 cr. This can maybe serve the drinking water requirements for a city like karachi possibly but not of a state or complete province. The installation capacity itself will amount to lakhs of crores , not feasible for poor countries , desalination plants not a solution for agriculture woes & drought.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

transfer the technology

I was questioning the per unit cost. The desalination process uses lots of energy. If you have gas/oil aplenty [like KSA/UAE] it's hunky dory but Pakistan is enewrgy deficit country.

Water desalination plants are a solution for small rich countries like Saudi , Israel but not for densely populated

Bingo. Cost per unit. Energy intense. Meaning expensive.

Why not utilise the water efficiently. Build a few reservoirs and upgrade the canal system by lining it. Release water from reservoirs when needed. Drip irrigation and no till farming could also be introduced. The list is long and desalination plant isn't in it....

Agreed. This has lots of potential.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Conventional thought

Energy Supplied by Water Dam Source need to make a 10 billion DAM or
Energy Supplied by Coal power plant We do have coal or
Energy Supplied by Gas power plant imported from Qatar or Russia or
Energy Supplied by Petrol power plant imported from Saudia or

Outcome: Desalination plant uses the energy from imported gas/oil , and then creates water



None Conventional thought

• Nuclear energy plant is constructed 300-400 Million creates the cheapest energy for 100 years
• 100% of energy produced is used for Desalination plants
• Nuclear energy is dirty cheap which is why it is used to run all Electric trains in Japan

Outcome: Desalination plant can be run by Nuclear technology , creating Water from cheap energy source

 

[zulu]

https://www.dw.com/en/making-seawater-into-drinking-water-with-the-help-of-the-sun/a-39924334

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

We need to combine Nuclear Energy Plant and Desalination Projects , as a one Big National Project

• Nuclear plant cost 300-400 Million per Unit
• Desalination plant cost 400 million expandable to 2 Billion

We are talking plants that can supply enough water for needs of Massive city
This is on scale of Airport

Not this tiny thing for small scale water clean up at neighborhood level

Pakistan is self sufficient in Nuclear Power with help of China, so our next step should be Water production from Nuclear Energy



Once the power plant is setup and energy is produced from Nuclear plant you just have to transport water and that is Basic Labor Job in Pakistan



a) Dig a massive trench
b) Put a massive pipeline
c) Connect it and take water to a large Artificial late

Or create a basic artificial canal

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

Or you know.... buy a rubber hose like this:

Put a couple holes in it. Give it to farmers, have them bury it in their fields, and connect to the water well.

And WA-LAH instant cheap drip irrigation that saves billions of gallons of water that otherwise would have been used for unsustainable agriculture.