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Denied Russian S-300 missiles, Iran cannot protect nuclear sites

DEBKAfile Special Report
November 28, 2009, 3:16 PM (GMT+02:00)


Russian S-300 - denied
Iran launches its huge Modafean-e (Defenders) Aseman-e-Velayat air defense exercise Sunday, Nov. 22, to protect its nuclear sites, after failing to persuade Russia to deliver the linchpin of its air defenses, S-300 missiles. For two weeks, high-ranking Iranian politicians and generals bombarded Moscow to make good on its contract to supply the key weapon, to no avail. Saturday, Nov. 21, Iran's air force commander Brig. Gen. Ahmad Mighani spoke at length about the highly sophisticated S-300, without which, DEBKAfile's military sources say, Iran has no real defense against US and Israeli aerial or missile strikes against its nuclear installations.

Iran will hold its war games in the western and southern regions, which Iran estimates will be selected by the Americans and Israelis for attack, and cover an area of 600,000 sq. km. Iranian warplanes will simulate enemy jets zooming in to strike.

Our sources report that, aside from the Russian-made Tor-M 1 short-range interceptor, Iran's air defense systems are outdated and pretty useless against US stealth bombers or the Israeli air force's electronic jamming instruments. Syria likewise lacked the weapons for stopping Israel attack its North-Korean-made nuclear reactor two years ago. The Iranian air force has nowhere near the capacity to take on US or Israeli air might.

Lacking the crucial S-300, a senior Revolutionary Guards officer was reduced to threatening: "If Israel attacks Iran, Iranian missiles will explode in the heart of Tel Aviv!"

Iranian strategists are trying to make do with four devices:

1. As many nuclear installations as possible are being moved to secret subterranean sites - among them most of the research laboratories working on the development of nuclear weapons and missiles.

2. Bogus installations have been planted not far from genuine plants to mislead assailants.

3. Tehran's most powerful defense is the deterrent strength of its ballistic missiles and the missiles distributed to its Middle East allies, Syria, the Lebanese Hizballah and the Palestinian Hamas. Therefore, Iran's first response to attack will not be to attack Israeli population centers as the Revolutionary Guards officer threatened, but to strike the home bases of its air force, missile and radar as well as the Israel-based US military facilities, so that Israeli warplanes will have no facilities to come back to and its missiles are knocked off their launch pads.

4. Iran's means its air defense war game as a rejoinder for the joint US-Israel Juniper Cobra 10 anti-ballistic exercise which took place for two weeks earlier this month. Iran's leaders had to make good on their vow not to leave any American or Israeli military step in the region unanswered, although the anti-air exercise will expose the big hole in their defenses. Even if every last anti-air measure and device they possess is deployed, Iran's nuclear facilities will still be susceptible to attack, be they the uranium enrichment center at Natanz, the Isfahan fuel plants in Isfahan, the facilities in northern Tehran, or the reactors going up in Arak opposite the Straits of Hormuz.


Iran tests nuclear site defenses: Stage One a washout

DEBKAfile Exclusive Analysis
November 23, 2009, 1:15 PM (GMT+02:00)


Not equal to defense function
From the word go on Sunday, Nov. 22, Iran's five-day drill demonstrated that its air force and air defense units were unequal to their mission of keeping the skies over its nuclear sites clear of incoming strike aircraft, DEBKAfile's military and Iranian sources report.

This was quickly borne in on Gen. Ahmad Mighani, air force chief and commander of five-day air defense exercise and the officers at the Khatam ol-Anbia air force base, headquarters of the exercise in the southern province of Khuzestan.

The first stage of the three-part war game Sunday and Monday was devoted to preventing hostile bombers from reaching nuclear installations. Iranian Mirage F-1 fighters acted as strike craft while F-5 fighters - old American models and local products - were assigned defensive roles. However, the Mirages broke through Iranian radar systems, overwhelmed the defending craft in dogfights and seized command of the air space over the nuclear sites. In conditions of real war, therefore, Iran's atomic installations would be destroyed in the first hours of an attack.

To raise the morale of the Iranian units who witnessed the debacle, Gen. Moghani gave them a pep talk before Monday's drills began. He assured them that even if enemy aircraft were able to knock out the installations, while they were bombing Iran, their own bases would be destroyed.

His words confirmed DEBKAfile's report Saturday, Nov. 20, that in the early stages of a war Tehran would focus on destroying Israeli air force, missile and radar facilities at home as well as the US military bases in Israel, rather than its cities.
 
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If Obama is looking to send 30,000 US troops to Afghanistan, I see USA and Israel would be looking to do some mis-adventure in Iran. After initial retaliation of attacking Tel-Aviv, the second and more potent threat would be removal of US and Allies from Afghanistan and those additional 30,000 troops would protect Afghan borders from Iran's active involvement.

Iranians are a proud Nation. 8,000 Hizbullah fighters have been an iron nail in Israel's @ss.. Who's going to face 71,956,322 Iranian Population? I guess Americans.. because Israel would fight till the last American.
 
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iran also has another trump card.

it can simply mine the strait of homuz joining the persian gulf to the arabian sea.

it a very thin strip and easily mined .

US and Israel have no way to stop iran from doing so.

if iran does that, a very very large percentage of oil headed for US will get blocked or sunk.

any iran misadventure is going to be very very costly for the US as long as it depends on the middle east for its oil.
 
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Iranians are a proud Nation. 8,000 Hizbullah fighters have been an iron nail in Israel's @ss.. Who's going to face 71,956,322 Iranian Population? I guess Americans.. because Israel would fight till the last American.

very nicely put :agree:
 
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iran also has another trump card.

it can simply mine the strait of homuz joining the persian gulf to the arabian sea.

it a very thin strip and easily mined .

US and Israel have no way to stop iran from doing so.

if iran does that, a very very large percentage of oil headed for US will get blocked or sunk.

any iran misadventure is going to be very very costly for the US as long as it depends on the middle east for its oil.

The major sources for US oil imports are Canada, KSA, Venezuela, Mexico and Nigeria. Blocking The Strait of Homruz will not majorly affect US oil import, but will definitely affect the world's energy needs, including that of India and China! US is not there for its own interest but surprisingly its an altruistic effort!

Iran blocking this strait is regarded as a direct threat to the rest of the world/countries who rely on this route for their energy needs. Thats one of the reasons why India and China decided to vote against IRAN in the IAEA.
 
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Iranians are a proud Nation. 8,000 Hizbullah fighters have been an iron nail in Israel's @ss.. Who's going to face 71,956,322 Iranian Population? I guess Americans.. because Israel would fight till the last American.

The Iraqis are a proud nation too. The much feared Republican Guards vouched their loyalties to the nation and yet when the Coalition attacked, they did not stand up!

Moral of the story, nobody likes despots, and citizens, no matter how proud, will never support despots against a foreign invader. History is replete with many examples.

Persians are a proud people. Alas, same cannot be said of their leaders, who usurped power by misleading people in a religious "revolution". (Doesnt it sound ironic? religion and revolution in the same sentence describing each other?)
 
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The major sources for US oil imports are Canada, KSA, Venezuela, Mexico and Nigeria. Blocking The Strait of Homruz will not majorly affect US oil import, but will definitely affect the world's energy needs, including that of India and China! US is not there for its own interest but surprisingly its an altruistic effort!

Iran blocking this strait is regarded as a direct threat to the rest of the world/countries who rely on this route for their energy needs. Thats one of the reasons why India and China decided to vote against IRAN in the IAEA.

are you sure about that??

because if u wiki straits of homuz you will find that one third of the worlds oil shipping is throught it. also i read a long article published by Stratfor about US being very very concerned about the straits being mined. will post it here if i find it.

also even if its not just the oil exports to US there are 2 more points.

any reinforcements to iraq or mid east will have to pass through the straits

US interest are not confined to US alone so stopping a fuel supply to the other places will also severely affect US ineterests
 
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are you sure about that??

because if u wiki straits of homuz you will find that one third of the worlds oil shipping is throught it. also i read a long article published by Stratfor about US being very very concerned about the straits being mined. will post it here if i find it.

also even if its not just the oil exports to US there are 2 more points.

any reinforcements to iraq or mid east will have to pass through the straits

US interest are not confined to US alone so stopping a fuel supply to the other places will also severely affect US ineterests

You fail to understand that Indian energy needs use those shipping lanes too, as does China. Do you think India or China will appreciate if Iran blocks or threatens to block the strait? Do you think India or China will lead a military effort to prevent Iran from doing so?

Stopping these lanes may or may not affect US interests, but it will definitely affect many countries energy needs. How are you going to explain that?
 
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it will effect many other countries. no doubt about it. but that is the gun iran has to the american head.

there is nothing else stopping US and israel from striking inside iran.

the world does not care if it was iran who mined the straits. the world will see that it was the US who forced iran to do it.

and yes i understand that india will also be adversely affected by the mining. wats your point?
 
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The major sources for US oil imports are Canada, KSA, Venezuela, Mexico and Nigeria.
are you sure about that??
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The issue is not confined to merely US interests, oil import or else, but about the interests of anyone else who has energy related interests in the ME. The more dependent a country is upon oil, gold, uranium or whatever, the more it become a national security interest and everyone be damned. So when there is a threat -- Iran -- to the many national security interests -- oil -- there will be alliances, temporary and permanent, to protect everyone's interests, Iran be damned. The Iranians do not have the necessary military capability to 'seal' the Strait of Hormuz even against only the US. Now add in other navies who are willing to contribute in their small ways, leaving the larger navies like US, Britain and France to conduct active offensive operations against the Iranian military. The Iranians can try but they do not have a chance.
 
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