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Democracy has nothing to fear from Pakistan Army': DG ISPR
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The army's media wing, Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), held a press conference Saturday evening to elaborate on the recovery of a Canadian-American family from Taliban custody and respond to the government's criticism of the army for its commentary on Pakistan's economic conditions.

Criticism of army's concerns about economy
Towards the end of the press conference, responding to Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal's criticism yesterday of the ISPR commenting on matters of the economy, the chief of the ISPR, Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor, expressed his disappointment at the government's reaction.

"I was disappointed as a soldier and as a citizen of Pakistan. We conducted a seminar with the Federation of Pakistan Chambers of Commerce and Industry. There were three former finance ministers, one former State Bank governor [in attendance]. The army chief gave a keynote address. I talked about it in my beeper [to a private TV channel] as well," he recounted.

"The Pakistan Army is a state institution and it is very important to sit and talk about things," he explained. "If we need to improve the economy, we will have to bring certain changes and the China Pakistan Economic Corridor needs to be supported [holistically] he said."

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"Never did I say that Pakistan's economy has been destroyed or something of that sort," he clarified.

"We have all done a lot of work for the economy. And I have said the same thing: we have to sit together. It is a very simple [request]: that everyone needs to cooperate," he said.

"The army chief told the traders [at the seminar] in informal talk that everyone should play their role [for the country's economic betterment]. He told them to pay their taxes," he said.

"Last year, the taxes recovered were only 39pc, and from private sector the recovery was only 40pc. It is too meagre," he said. "That is all I said — that the tax base needs to be increased — and I stand by it," he concluded.

"When I say something here, I am speaking on behalf of the armed forces. I am not speaking in a personal capacity, as I am the spokesperson of the armed forces," he continued.

"There is no threat to democracy from the Pakistan Army; [but] there could be a threat to democracy if its [democracy's] requirements are not being met," he said.

"I want to add that there needs to be stability. The government needs to continue and an established democratic system needs to continue."

"I have to say this because there are a lot of rumours abut martial law and [the installation of a] technocratic government."

"The nature and character of war has changed because the direct strategy [of waging war] has been replaced by indirect [warfare]. Social media has a huge role in this. Do not forward as received. Research. Don't spread misinformation," he said tangentially.

"When it comes to Pakistan, the security and survival of Pakistan, we all are one," he said. "Every Pakistani and every institution is one against them — the outside forces should know this."

On being asked why the debate was brought to the public sphere, Maj Gen Ghafoor said the army had not started the debate.

"A lot of seminars happen. Who was present in the seminar? Traders and economists," he said. "Karachi's security situation has improved, which is in the interest of traders," he explained as the reason the seminar was held.

"It [the economy discussion] is about [a glass] being half filled and half empty. Should we be satisfied with half filled? Should we not take it further? If our economy is self sustained and better, the national security decision-making will be much independent [from foreign pressures]," he said.

"There was also talk about a financial emergency, but the conclusion was that 'no; the work is going on and it will continue'. This is a positive process that needs to be looked at positively, and we will continue to play our role," he said.

"I don't think the seminar and the conclusions of the seminar are in question," he said.

Recovery of American-Canadian couple
Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor had started off by recalling the new US policy on South Asia and Pakistan's military and civilian response to it.

"Our line was that we have done a lot in Pakistan over the past few years and found great results. There are no more no-go areas in this country," he began.

"In the [diplomatic] engagements [with US officials], we had said that trust would take us forward."

"In this regard," he continued, delving into Pakistan's response to the new policy, "we undertook an operation upon American intelligence [...] it was shared with us," he stated.

"That day at 4.10pm, we were informed by an American diplomat that the family is being transferred to Pakistan. On the information we received, we sent our troops, used surveillance means and detected the vehicles [being used to transport the hostages]."

"We cordoned them and fired on their vehicle. Our first priority was that the captives are brought out safely. We wanted to isolate the terrorists and captives so that the captives may remain safe," he said.

"There was a driver and three armed people," he said. "There was also an Afghan refugee camp nearby," where Maj Gen Ghafoor said the kidnappers had fled to.

"We have been saying repeatedly that the Afghan refugees need to be sent back. It is difficult for us to distinguish who is a terrorist and who is a refugee [in situations like these]," he said.

Returning to engagement with Donald Trump's America, the army's spokesperson said that initiatives had been taken and the US had responded. "You have seen the results, and you also saw Trump's statement [praising Pakistan following the recovery of the abductees]," he said.

"We feel happy that there is a level of trust and confidence that the US leadership has shown in Pakistan and Pakistan's security forces."

"We take it as a good start, and if a trust-based relationship continues, there will be positive results," he added.

To a question about whether the army was pushing for a dialogue with the Taliban, Maj Gen Ghafoor said "the question is outside my domain. Please contact the Foreign Office on talks with the Taliban and their [the Taliban] office in Doha."

"The Afghan war could not have been won without Pakistan," he offered, "but we need to cooperate in ways that are mutually beneficial. Engagement builds trust. You can have apprehensions, which could be debated about. Security cooperation is ongoing and will continue," he added.

Referring to the possibility of a joint operation with American troops on Pakistani soil, raised by Foreign Minister Khawaja Asif, the army spokesman was quick to dismiss any possibility of the same, saying he was doing so on a technical point.

"In military terminology, a joint operation means forces of both countries conduct an operation. There is no question of it. Full stop," he said.
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DEMOKRAZY has to first show Profits and Billions in gain it is a failed system and it needs to be abolished we need to Adapt Chinese model for Prosperity

This works for our situation, if it worked for china in 15 year it will work for Pakistan with 15-20 Year cycle

The MERIT and quality from this system is HIGHER then DEMOKRAZY

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DEMOKRAZY has loopholes , which enable outsiders to influence who will be head of state by minipulative TV channels , and Minipulative ambassadors and various other Assasination and poly not to mention "ETHNIC DIVIDE CARD"


Only the RICH are able to afford the cost of running political campaigns
DEMOKRAZY is a fake promise of making difference for people at ground level , the folks at ground level get nothing from this bastard system
 
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it may seem like ISPR and GHQ is feeding the status quo's provocations, but they know what they are doing.
I think too many statement from ISPR and indirectly addressing the present govt is making the situation worse. Because PMLn carry the label of democratic party around the world and gaining sympathy on the other hand establishment already carrying some black spot of backing up extremist parties or case of OBL. Balance is required. I am not all out support of military.
 
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DEMOKRAZY should not be priority , priority should be a SYSTEM which works well for benefit of Pakistan by making it a Industrial power house and DRMOKRAZY is a system which promotes Idiots to come in power by hook or crook or buying TV channels or Newspapers

It is not uncommon to see US buying influence by setting up Proxy TV channels in Pakistan or funding certain groups to setup special interest groups for this reason

DEMOKRAZY can't and won't work with uneducation population figures of 55-60%
 
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Very funny statement, given Pakistan's history, and its present predicament. I am beginning to appreciate the DG ISPR's sense of humor. :D
Not funny ... 2 “democrazatic” terms hace completed...

And the army has always been invited to rule by none other than politicians themselves...

And the so called political parties are products of dictatorships themselves..
 
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Only the RICH are able to afford the cost of running political campaigns
DEMOKRAZY is a fake promise of making difference for people at ground level , the folks at ground level get nothing from this bastard system
How stupid. Western Democracies are some of the wealthiest in the world. Chinese model works only in China.

ISPR need to stop countering political statement. Very harmful and making establishment a party.
Haha. When has establishment not been a party?

Very funny statement, given Pakistan's history, and its present predicament. I am beginning to appreciate the DG ISPR's sense of humor. :D
Well if you sincerely believe holding elections every 4-5 years amounts to "democracy" then you are plain dead wrong. India as well as many other countries are doing this for decades without achieving Western style modern and transparent democracy.
 
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Well if you sincerely believe holding elections every 4-5 years amounts to "democracy" then you are plain dead wrong. India as well as many other countries are doing this for decades without achieving Western style modern and transparent democracy.

India's political system, although recently succumbed to an internal problem of right wing religious fanaticism, it is still far better than ours and way more stable. It's an enviable system compared to Pakistan's. 70 years of independence and we've yet to build a functioning viable political system that lasts longer than a decade.

Military dictatorships can never last, never build institutions, they can never build a stable system that lasts. As long as we continue to have them we won't achieve any political stability and what other good may result from it. If the previous trend continues and we switch between the two indefinitely, even our grandchildren will be talking about the pros and cons of a dictatorship versus a civilian system.
 
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You should worry about how Democratic institutions are becoming a jock in America and the threat to american democracy from Russia.

Has Martial Law ever been declared in USA? Or do you think will be, soon? :D

Russia will remain a confined kleptocracy, no worries there.

Well if you sincerely believe holding elections every 4-5 years amounts to "democracy" then you are plain dead wrong. India as well as many other countries are doing this for decades without achieving Western style modern and transparent democracy.

Not to worry, the Army will never let a serious contender to its unbridled and illegal powers to ever emerge in Pakistan, if it can help it.
 
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One thing is for sure, they will not make nawaz siyasi shaeed this time.
 
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