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Defending Militancy: Why they kill civilians, attack the state

When terrorists are merely ‘irrational’


Imran Khan
Sunday, August 21, 2011



Hawks are an integral part of any political jungle, and Pakistan is no exception. But in relative terms the Pakistani variety does appear a “bit” more hawkish than the rest, “hawks on steroids,” if you will. This lot usually hates compromises, for instance; grass seems to be their green of choice when denouncing aid from the infidels, and as a defence against an enemy onslaught they have even contemplated the possibility of detonating Pakistani nukes on Pakistani soil – i.e., a national level suicide bombing of sorts.

But, then, amazingly, this same lot of missile-wielding and radiation burping warriors turns instantly dovish, at anything remotely Taliban-ish. Despite the Taliban’s ownership of hundreds of bombings, beheadings and abductions within Pakistan, all they get from our overly sensitive hawks are mere murmurs of protests, and those too are hugely qualified.

So what gives, exactly? Why is it that the people who justify the killing of Governor Taseer by quoting his blasphemous insensitivity are somewhat indifferent to those who bomb mosques and shrines? Why is it that those who go livid over the killing of a Muslim anywhere in the world, are shrugging shoulders in the face of this continuing massacre of thousands of Pakistani Muslims?

The main reason for this uncharacteristic silence seems to be an understanding, an understanding that the Taliban are desperate and thus irrational. Fighting these irrational beings will make them even more irrational. The solution thus is not to fight them but to understand the “root cause” of their desperation, which is the US occupation of Afghanistan and US attacks within Pakistan. The Americans apparently have challenged a people who have defeated the British Empire as well as communist Russia. These brave and noble souls live by their code of revenge and will do anything to get back at their enemy. In their desperation, then, the Taliban are fighting with every mean possible, and the suicide bomber is the ultimate embodiment of the desperation felt by the Taliban. Until the root causes to this desperation are addressed, all of this killing and mayhem will “understandably” continue.

So exactly how desperate are the Taliban?


In 2007 a pair of economists from Harvard University published an interesting paper titled “Human Capital and the Productivity of Suicide Bombers.”* Defining productivity as the ability to cause damage, the authors, Efraim Benmelech and Claude Berrebi, considered traits among bombers that distinguished the more successful ones. Among other things, their analysis revealed the age of the bomber to be a crucial factor in determining success; statistically speaking, if worn by an adult bomber a suicide jacket is likely to do more damage than if it is worn by a child.

During the suicide attack on the Sakhi Sarwar Shrine, one of the bombers encountered a literal “wardrobe malfunction.” Resultantly Umar Fidai, an embodiment of the Taliban’s defiance and desperation, was caught alive and interviewed. One thing that comes across as obvious from the interview is that Umar was neither defiant nor desperate. In fact, he was apologetic. When asked about his motivation to carry out this act, he specified “mazay” (fun times) in Heaven to be the main reason. If this sounds childish, then it should, because Umar is only 14 years old, an age at which it is too early for one to have a true grasp of the Islamic compulsion of jihad, or for that matter the revenge compulsions of Pakhtunwali. Furthermore, Umar Fidai is not an exception: the eulogising post-bombing videos, as well as testimonies of eye witnesses, invariably report suicide bombers to be mere teenagers.

In the Taliban’s arsenal, the suicide bomber is undoubtedly the deadliest. But the creation of a bomber is not just about a volunteer, the rigging of belts and vehicles and their safe transportation towards their targets is a logistical exercise that is full of all sorts of risks. So when a volunteer straps on a belt in a city such as Islamabad, then that belt is not just nuts and bolts, it includes the cost of clearing all sorts of security hurdles. For this considerable investment, why would the Taliban not want maximum damage and select grownups? I mean, forget about that analysis from Harvard; it only confirms what we all know from experience – i.e., you do not send a boy to do a man’s job.

So the question is, where are all those angry and frustrated men for whom our hawks are so very eager to compromise on Pakistan’s security interests and stage dharnas? Why aren’t those men strapping on these belts, instead of these boys?

The answer to that lies in the testimonies of captured suicide bombers such as Umar Fidai. The recruitment of these children is full of ploys that befit child molesters; they are coaxed with heavenly candies, and beaten black and blue if they dare to question. While gun-toting Taliban men are very eager to swoop in on unarmed villagers and behead prisoners, they seem reluctant to carry out suicide bombings.

The reluctance of bearded Taliban to carry out these attacks goes contrary to the “desperation” argument presented by Pakistan’s religious right. By quoting any action against the Taliban as a source of raising this so-called desperation, these “pacifists” are arguing against the only real response to the Taliban’s onslaught. Furthermore, the apparent “futility” of a military response should be seen in the context of Osama bin Laden’s presence at the outskirts of Kakul, it is very possible that the military option wasn’t exercised properly, in the first place; be it incompetence or collusion
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*http://www.economics.harvard.edu/faculty/benmelech/files/JEP_0807.pdf



(A version of this article appeared in the Huffington Post.)

The writer blogs at iopyne.wordpress. com. Email: iopyne@gmail.com
 
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Saheeh Bukhari, traditions as quoted by Abu Huraira (RA)

He who commits suicide by throttling shall keep on throttling himself in the Hell Fire (forever) and he who commits suicide by stabbing himself shall keep on stabbing himself in the Hell-Fire.”

Whoever purposely throws himself from a mountain and kills himself, will be in the (Hell) Fire falling down into it and abiding therein perpetually forever; and whoever drinks poison and kills himself with it, he will be carrying his poison in his hand and drinking it in the (Hell) Fire wherein he will abide eternally forever; and whoever kills himself with an iron weapon, will be carrying that weapon in his hand and stabbing his abdomen with it in the (Hell) Fire wherein he will abide eternally forever."

As stated in the holy Quran

"And do not kill yourselves. Surely, Allaah is Most Merciful to you", [Surah an-Nisaa., Aayah 29].


For me the Holy Quran followed by the Hadith of the holy Prophet (PBUH) is supreme. I have quoted two Hadith from Abu Huraira (RA) as found in Saheeh Bukhari. TTP are sending suicide bombers every day and killing Muslims in the act of offering prayers. To me this is forbidden act.
However there is a section of Pakistani public including members of this forum, who cannot find in their hearts to condemn TTP and continue to support their cause thus indirectly providing support so that TTP can go out and kill more people in the name of Islam. Is this really the peaceful religion that our holy Prophet (PBUH) preached?

I certainly don’t think so. When believers openly start going against the word of Allah and his Prophet (PBUH) and still claim to follow Islam, then surely a rot has set in and the end can be nothing but disaster. If a state similar to Afghanistan under Taliban is all that is desired, that is all you are going to get.
 
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there is a section of Pakistani public including members of this forum, who cannot find in their hearts to condemn TTP and continue to support their cause thus indirectly providing support so that TTP can go out and kill more people in the name of Islam. Is this really the peaceful religion that our holy Prophet (PBUH) preached?

Does the forum, then, have responsibility, for continuing to allow such persons to be members?
 
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yes cause its a forum and every person has a right to express what he considers correct . besides if we dont listen how can we counter
 
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yes cause its a forum and every person has a right to express what he considers correct . besides if we dont listen how can we counter

So, any expression is OK - there is no right or wrong or good or bad - The expressions of support to the Talib ideology is morally the equivalent of the Pakistan state - have I understood you correctly? Because Expression is more important than what you express? Right? And because this expression is a "right", it should be exercised without responsibility, right?
 
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The thing is that they do not consider them as killing themselves. It is not suicide to them. They consider it as part laying their life down for their religion. To exploit men and words dates back to since man learned how to communicate.
 
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Saheeh Bukhari, traditions as quoted by Abu Huraira (RA)

He who commits suicide by throttling shall keep on throttling himself in the Hell Fire (forever) and he who commits suicide by stabbing himself shall keep on stabbing himself in the Hell-Fire.”

Whoever purposely throws himself from a mountain and kills himself, will be in the (Hell) Fire falling down into it and abiding therein perpetually forever; and whoever drinks poison and kills himself with it, he will be carrying his poison in his hand and drinking it in the (Hell) Fire wherein he will abide eternally forever; and whoever kills himself with an iron weapon, will be carrying that weapon in his hand and stabbing his abdomen with it in the (Hell) Fire wherein he will abide eternally forever."

As stated in the holy Quran

"And do not kill yourselves. Surely, Allaah is Most Merciful to you", [Surah an-Nisaa., Aayah 29].


For me the Holy Quran followed by the Hadith of the holy Prophet (PBUH) is supreme. I have quoted two Hadith from Abu Huraira (RA) as found in Saheeh Bukhari. TTP are sending suicide bombers every day and killing Muslims in the act of offering prayers. To me this is forbidden act.
However there is a section of Pakistani public including members of this forum, who cannot find in their hearts to condemn TTP and continue to support their cause thus indirectly providing support so that TTP can go out and kill more people in the name of Islam. Is this really the peaceful religion that our holy Prophet (PBUH) preached?

I certainly don’t think so. When believers openly start going against the word of Allah and his Prophet (PBUH) and still claim to follow Islam, then surely a rot has set in and the end can be nothing but disaster. If a state similar to Afghanistan under Taliban is all that is desired, that is all you are going to get.

There is no doubt in this notion, life is the most important blessing by Allah and it is not to be wasted by man. But, a certain section of the population and a certain section of the cleric community fails to apprehend this. The other day, on TV, a woman said that is it alright for a person to commit suicide if he or she is fed up with life. These kind of people in turn go on to be staunch believers in radical ideas.

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yes cause its a forum and every person has a right to express what he considers correct . besides if we dont listen how can we counter

....provided that it is on the basis of some logic.

There is a fine line between freedom of expression and pure insanity.
 
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There is a fine line between freedom of expression and pure insanity.


Are not our "freedoms" or "liberties" predicated on "responsibility" - after all, are there any such things as absolute freedoms or liberties?

What we have in essence is bunch of people who, for instance, come to us and say they want to play football but not according to any of the rules that define the game football - if we score goals, they will kill us, if we don't agree to their rules, they will kill us, if we play well, they will kill us.

Even more amazingly, we seek to accord "rights" to those vehemently reject the very concept. It is an absurd suggestion that those who by conviction view any who do not share their view, as worthy of death, should be considered our moral equal and that they be accorded "rights" which they reject.

It is offered that we may learn from them - learn what? what about "we have the right to kill those who do not share our convictions" do you not understand??

But then some others offer that we may be able to win them over with our debates - When have they offered to enter into debates?? And remember, if you agree to such a thing, then you are agreeing to the very framework of their ideology, you will have lost before you ever begin -- you will have agreed that they have a right to kill you if you disagree with them, after all, what then is the justification for them, to talk to you??

Others offer a different and I think valid point, that by constructing a we are right you are wrong paradigm, we do a disservice to religion - but recall, we did not impose this war on them, THEY imposed it on us - Now, yes, we have to "create" our position as superior, is it really so difficult to counter "if you disagree with us we will kill you"??????

Won't keeping such members on board will help all others get some idea of what lies ahead?

On the contrary, it will allow opportunities for them to influence and recruit.
 
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Assalam alaikum

It is very strange some ppl accuse the others of not listening and wanna ban the others strange. On top of it they they calim to be educated. i guess these ppl have a different agenda.

TARIQ
 
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Islam, which teaches Peace and humanity is the correct one... No matter whose one that is...


Dear Indian Tiger, islam=peace based on terms for peace eg freedom, justice, fairness, compassion, brotherhood, progress and prosperity of mankind. If people are willing to live by these terms then Islam means peace. On the other hand anyone who rejects and opposes terms for peace then there is war because islam forbids muslims to sit idle and do nothing against oppression, suppressin, injustice, unfairness, cuelty and brutality, animosity, regression, poverty and ignorance etc.

No person claiming to be muslim can dare say this is not islam, it does not matter which sect one claims to belong to.

What is happening is people are saying one thing and doing another muslims and nonmuslims alike. They do this to take undue advantage of each other.

One has to ask, what was going on between USA and USSR? There were no musliims involved in that.

Likewise you can see many more examples where people are doing things to each other like animals for animalistic reasons. They just claim to be civilized but are they?

When people do not want to live by precepts that really matter and fight over pieces like dogs are they humans with brains?

Likewise muslims are also humans first before they really become muslims. This takes time and proper study of quran and the real world out there.

When you are born into a war zone you have little time to study and very little resources for education, we cannot put ali blame on one side. The world is affarid of imperialism by muslims because this is what happened before. The world is also afraid of christian imperialism and hindu imperialism and parsi imperialism. So american and european intervention for economic imperialism and political imperialism are all a serious problem.

What humanity needs is proper rule of law empire for the good of mankind not any personality based imperialism or cult. The quran is the only book that can provide that but even muslims do not know what it really says because they do not bother reading it for understanding and for spreading that understanding. They are fighting over length of beard and that is how far most of them know islam. So we cannot expect such people solve world's problems, can we?

It is time for muslims and nonmuslims alike to think what the real problems are and how they can be solved only then the quran can be used for help and advice. The while we have taken baseless positions and are busy killing each other the quran is lying there collecting dust. I have explained what the quran is all about in other threads.

Thanks for giving me opportunity to share my thoughts. regards and all the best.

 
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And Yet some people say Islam unites us

Dear muse, I say islam unites but it has terms on which it unites and anyone who does not accept its terns is challenged to produce better terms and unite on that. Can you or anyone else produce any better terms for unity? No. This proves beyond a shadow of doubt the quran unites.

However it is up to people to see whether they want unity or not? If they want it then formula is there. The quran is like a road map so it is up to people if they want to use it for that purpose or not.

I see that you are mostly bringing blame on muslims but not on nonmuslims who are actually doing the harm. Pakistan was created as a pilot project and that is what those people clearly states who created it. That is the only way the quran makes sense. The bloodshed was started by nonmuslims in india to stop creation of pakistan and it was conspiracy by the british government along side hindu leadership.

If paksitan was meant to be created by use of force then all muslims needed to do was prepare for war and start a war within india and believe me they would have lost less number of lives and pakistan would have been created. This should give a very strong reason to show muslims were not a violent people and pakistan was not created for fighting with other people but as a pilot project as per thoughts of iqbal to show what the quran is all about ie for the good of mankind. This chance was taken away from muslims by the british and the hindu leadership.

If you study situation very carefully you will see very clearly indeed that partition stories told by creators of pakistan make sense whereas all others are lying to cover their tracks and these are double face people because they accept double standard as their life style and rule of law. It is they who were trouble makers and it is they who are trouble makers even today. Liars cannot get away with their lies. They always tried their tricks but in the end became exposed.

I have no animosity against any other human being I take them as my brothers and sisters but I also condemn those who work against our human family and we must stop them from condemning humanity to painful suffering and destruction.

The only way we can have better relationship with nonmuslims is if they give up their double standards and conspiracies to implement the same against rest of humanity.

We need to see not only in muslim countries but these vultures and blood suckers have ruined mankind through out the globe. Some people are more greedy than you realize. They are willing to destroy surplus food than distribute it in the hungry world, why? so that their market economy is not messed up. Where these people do not use war machines to kill people they used their economic system to suck blood out of those who have very little of it to begin with.

I recommend that you study social darwinism to see how they have come up with their political and economic systems, structures and practices. These are clearly anti islam ideas that give advantageous all there is.

These are the people who invented these systems and they knew how to use them and they have been using them and people against whom they used all these never knew what all this was about. This is how they cheated rest of humanity. If you start a game then you know all its tricks and if you play it with me you have major advantage which I cannot match no matter how clever I am. By the time I realise your tricks you have got me where you want to take me ie in to politiical and economic slavery.

nehru and gandhi did not realise this and that is why india is still struggling and look at what hindus are doing to hindus. Ibqal and jinnah realised this and tried to get muslims out of this trap before it was too late but muslims fell prey to their own stupid ruling elite and mullahs and fell back in to the very trap they were brought out from. This is why pakistan is where it is today.

Indians blaming creation of pakistan for their problems is also silly because if a son leaves home of his parents at least the rest of family should get on with their life. Why take it out on indian muslims or blame it on them? Had hindu leaders used their brains partition of pakistan could have been made very pleasant like a son being separated and set up and given all the help. Instead they did not even give the due share of things. Who is proving animosity here the son or the family? There is a lot for which only and only hindu leadership is to blame but unfortunately pakistanis have forgotten their own leaders so how can they answer the hindus or indians? Masses on both sides are slaves to pandits and mullahs or ruling elite thanks to their own stupidity.

Had pakistan been successful the world would be a great place today because that would have acted as beacon of hope and success and would have help rest to be like it. Today thanks to our brainless leaders we are totally confused and fighting each other the while enemies is not doing much better either.

What has humanity got out of opposing islam? More and more pain and suffering because we have decided to play lose lose game ie I attack you and and you attack me so we both ended up destroyed. Who is sensible and clever in this game? Anyone?

After killing of millions of people and displacing millions more who are we really trying to fool? Ourselves.

Therefore let us support those who tells us what is right and good for us and oppose those who tell us wrong thing that are bad for us. This is what the quran teaches.

The quran does not tell muslims only to obey law but to ensure that law is just and fair and good for mankind. If not then it is not a law but a satanic device by some people with wicked ambitions to trap other people.

I hope this sets the record straight for all my muslim and nonmuslim brethren. It is good idea to learn formulas not just numbers. So that we could clearly see the sums are calculated right or wrong. Again the quran claims to be the criterion for judging things properly and right at the start. No other scripture does this proving clearly it is not a manmade book. It is because all religious scriptures before the quran had nothing to do with real world situations as far as their followers were concerned this is why the separation of state and religion. Islam is not a religion but a deen. A standard for judging all anyone does as regard life in this very world.

regards and all the best.
 
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Islam is the only solution for the humanity and their is only one Islam and it will soon rule the world and its whole system will free the humanity from all of its problems :)
 
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Islam is the only solution for the humanity and their is only one Islam and it will soon rule the world and its whole system will free the humanity from all of its problems :)

Assalam alaikum

InshaAllah i hope it would be soon in our life time

TARIQ
 
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On the contrary, it will allow opportunities for them to influence and recruit.

I see two sides here now. Theirs and yours.

Your statement appears to carry the presupposition that their calls and contentions will sound more logical/lucrative/religious than yours.

But according to your own recent posts, their cause is neither more logical, nor lucrative, not even religious in nature. So shouldn't it be the other way round, and the educated ones in here may find it easier to convince the extremists of their own ways?

After all it is an internet forum and the sole medium is English. Every single member is well educated, thus I suppose the majority is held by those who can clearly see and derive the degree of religiosity of the TTP and kinds.
 
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