Defence Analyst Brahma Chelaney Claims India Failed Diplomatically and Lost The Entire Galwan Valley

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

Far from the social media Orgasms, the reality is finally seeping in the Indian Intelligentsia of the soft surrender of the entire Galwan Valley to the Chinese. A few tweets below of Brahma Chellaney , a right wing anti Pakistan defence analyst, shows how India lost the valley diplomatically without firing a single bullet.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1280399758524203008

The realistic Indians are aware that the Chinese threat has not gone, the sequence of events bear similarities to the 1962 debacle. As the Modi media and SM are rejoicing the Chinese Dis-engagement as a victory, the PLA is building new Artillery positions, more reinforcement to the rear and conducting more live fire exercises.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1280519734656630788

https://twitter.com/x/status/1280562461670686720

https://twitter.com/x/status/1280547772912013316

Many Indian defence experts predict something big is going to happen in the next 27 days, probably in August. Let our resident Indian trolls be happy and rejoice for a while, the war clouds have not disappeared as of yet THEY say.

 

[Arulmozhi Varman]

Entire Galwan valley? Lol. That's where the current DBO road passes through. We are still using it and transporting stuff. I like your thread through trying to impact everytime with titles with less substances inside.

Though PP14 point is something we need to figure out before the next summer.

 

[Mighty Lion]

Unfortunately for him latest satelite pics have proven him wrong:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/late...-chinese-have-pulled-back-from-galwan.674950/

Fact is Brahma Chellaney is extremely anti China and anything short of total war with China is disliked by him. So wonder he does not like disengagement. He like GD Bakshi except he is focused on China.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

Fact is Brahma Chellaney is extremely anti China and anything short of total war with China is disliked by him.

Anything that goes against the GODI media Mantra, is not the Gospel of truth!

An alternate view from the Chinese side.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dip...&utm_medium=share_widget&utm_campaign=3092209

 

[Osiris]

The advantage of having free media is that every one can express their opinion. Even after Kargil war there were some Indian analyst claiming that India lost the war because the fight took place Indian side of LOC, and India did not take the fight to enemy territory.

However fact of the matter here are - and these are undisputed.

1. Patrol Point 14 is furthest point India armed forces patrols in Galwan valley in peace time and is considered as Indian claim line in Galwan valley.

2. In beginning of May, PLA came and setup its camp, few hundred meters on Indian side PP14.

3. Indian side made mirror deployment opposite to Chinese Camps.

4. After disengagement both side have agreed to withdraw their camps 2 Km from PP 14.

5. There will be no foot patrols from either side within a 2 KM radius of PP14 for a period of next 30 days.

Make of that.. what you will...

 

[Death Professor]

Unfortunately for him latest satelite pics have proven him wrong:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/late...-chinese-have-pulled-back-from-galwan.674950/

Fact is Brahma Chellaney is extremely anti China and anything short of total war with China is disliked by him. So wonder he does not like disengagement. He like GD Bakshi except he is focused on China.

Brahma Chellaney is extremely anti China, Pravin Sawhney is pro China, Ajai Shukla is anti-Modi. The only real analyst is:

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

Brahma Chellaney is extremely anti China, Pravin Sawhney is pro China, Ajai Shukla is anti-Modi. The only real analyst is:

The Military build up was never against China or was it? Modi never mentioned China!

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Entire Galwan valley? Lol. That's where the current DBO road passes through. We are still using it and transporting stuff. I like your thread through trying to impact everytime with titles with less substances inside.

Though PP14 point is something we need to figure out before the next summer.

However now they can watch your little lego trucks driving up and down the road. India has been pushed back decisively. Any wet dreams about GB and AZK are gone down a designated shitting nala. Why do you people consistently refuse to show shame over a clear loss of territory and a loss of men?

India was forced to retreat further WITHIN INDIAN TERRITORY by these discussions (a fact which in itself confirms that China is already within Indian perceived territory), allowing China to now cement a demilitarized zone as a bonus buffer to its recent gains. Here are Indian fanboys declaring some kind of win?

It's true what they say. The "inferiority complex" dynamics persist. Unfortunately, they will continue for many years to come.

The advantage of having free media is that every one can express their opinion. Even after Kargil war there were some Indian analyst claiming that India lost the war because the fight took place Indian side of LOC, and India did not take the fight to enemy territory.

However fact of the matter here are - and these are undisputed.

1. Patrol Point 14 is furthest point India armed forces patrols in Galwan valley in peace time and is considered as Indian claim line in Galwan valley.

2. In beginning of May, PLA came and setup its camp, few hundred meters on Indian side PP14.

3. Indian side made mirror deployment opposite to Chinese Camps.

4. After disengagement both side have agreed to withdraw their camps 2 Km from PP 14.

5. There will be no foot patrols from either side within a 2 KM radius of PP14 for a period of next 30 days.

Make of that.. what you will...

It's as though 20 dead Indians have been forgotten already. Their families may be wondering why they laid down their lives if India and other Indians are so happy to withdraw IA patrols within Indian territory following a few Skype chats with China.

 

[HalfMoon]

However fact of the matter here are - and these are undisputed.

1. Patrol Point 14 is furthest point India armed forces patrols in Galwan valley in peace time and is considered as Indian claim line in Galwan valley.

LoL

Have some shame.

Indians use to patrol until finger 8 but now cannot even patrol until finger 4.

You lost all land from finger 8 to finger 4 (included) to the Chinese.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

More bad news for the Indians , China has stepped up activities in Arunachel Pradesh.
https://www.business-standard.com/a...ty-near-arunachal-pradesh-120063000061_1.html

 

[Osiris]

LoL

Have some shame.

Indians use to patrol until finger 8 but now cannot even patrol until finger 4.

You lost all land from finger 8 to finger 4 (included) to the Chinese.

Are you a liar or misinformed. Do you not know this is the first phase disengagement, which has happened only in Galwan.

In next phase it shall happen on similar lines in Hot springs , Gogra and Pangang Tso.

 

[Osiris]

It's as though 20 dead Indians have been forgotten already. Their families may be wondering why they laid down their lives if India and other Indians are so happy to withdraw IA patrols within Indian territory following a few Skype chats with China.

There is a difference between Indian army and likes of Chinese army and Pakistan àrmy.

And that difference can be seen between any democracy and an autocratic dictatorship or a quassi dictatorship.

The difference is a democracy will always honour soldiers who laid down their lives for the country, they will be remembered and monuments will be built for them, like hospital which has been named after 20 Indian Martyrs.

Where as an autocratic dictatorship will not only, not honour it's dead soldiers, it will refuse to acknowledge their sacrifice at all. Some of these countries even refuse to accept the bodies of its dead soldiers or try to pass them as militants instead.

For these countries, their soldiers are disposable assets, who can be used and discarded or forgotten as they see fit, but that does not happen in a country like India.

 

[Feng Leng]

Finally the elephant showed the dragon its shupa powa!

 

[masterchief_mirza]

There is a difference between Indian army and likes of Chinese army and Pakistan àrmy.

And that difference can be seen between any democracy and an autocratic dictatorship or a quassi dictatorship.

The difference is a democracy will always honour soldiers who laid down their lives for the country, they will be remembered and monuments will be built for them, like hospital which has been named after 20 Indian Martyrs.

Where as an autocratic dictatorship will not only, not honour it's dead soldiers, it will refuse to acknowledge their sacrifice at all. Some of these countries even refuse to accept the bodies of its dead soldiers or try to pass them as militants instead.

For these countries, their soldiers are disposable assets, who can be used and discarded or forgotten as they see fit, but that does not happen in a country like India.

Sorry, again, why did they die?

So they could have a monument with their names on it?

Do you actually understand anything about anything?

 

[j20611]

There is a difference between Indian army and likes of Chinese army and Pakistan àrmy.

And that difference can be seen between any democracy and an autocratic dictatorship or a quassi dictatorship.

The difference is a democracy will always honour soldiers who laid down their lives for the country, they will be remembered and monuments will be built for them, like hospital which has been named after 20 Indian Martyrs.

Where as an autocratic dictatorship will not only, not honour it's dead soldiers, it will refuse to acknowledge their sacrifice at all. Some of these countries even refuse to accept the bodies of its dead soldiers or try to pass them as militants instead.

For these countries, their soldiers are disposable assets, who can be used and discarded or forgotten as they see fit, but that does not happen in a country like India.

You can hump a cow in their honour. Just pretend it’s your 20 dead soldiers reincarnated or 60 surrendered soldiers
https://worldnewsdailyreport.com/ma...ims-it-is-the-reincarnation-of-his-dead-wife/