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The Indian armed forces’ quest to buy 22 modern attack helicopters is nearing decision time as the trails of the Boeing AH64 D Apache and the MiL Mi-28NE attack helicopters have been completed and final evaluation is on.

Informed sources told defenseworld.net that a final decision could be on hand before the middle of this year.

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With the Indian MoD receiving a whopping $36.03 billion for hardware purchase in the 2011-12 Indian budget, indications are that the attack helicopter procurement will go through this year.

While the formidable Apache AH64 D is considered a strong contender thanks to its battle proven capability in Afghanistan and in the Middle East and its package of weapons and technology never before seen in a helicopter in India, the Mi-28NE is a new generation attack helicopter capable of attacking ground targets as well as having the capacity of ar-to-air combat.

The Mi-28NE (NATO reporting name HAVOC) is a Russian all-weather day-night military tandem two-seat anti-armour attack helicopter.

Expecting an early decision on the attack helicopter deal, the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) notified the US Congress earlier this year, for a possible sale of 50 T700-GE-701D engines, 12 AN/APG-78 Fire Control Radars, 12 AN/APR-48A Radar Frequency Interferometers, 812 AGM-114L-3 Hellfire Longbow missiles, 542 AGM-114R-3 Hellfire II missiles, 245 Stinger Block I-92H missiles, and 23 Target Acquisition Designation Sight/Pilot Night Vision Sensors. The equipment constitutes the foreign military sales component of the sale while the 22 AH-64D Block III Apache platforms will be sold directly by Boeing to India, should it win the contract.

The Mi-28NE matches, if not exceeds the Apache in terms of firepower and self-protection. Information obtained from Helicopter experts says that the five-bladed main rotor of the Mi-28NE, when compared to the four bladed Apache rotor, offers better stability in flight and less vibration during target designation. The Mi-28 NE, which is heavier than the Apache by approximately 3 tonnes, has more effective armor. It has two heavily armored cockpits, a windshield able to withstand hits from 7.62-12.7 caliber bullets.

At the sides, the Mi-28NE according to the tests performed by the manufacturer can sustain the projectiles up to 20 mm.

The main gun of the Mi-28NE- 30mm automatic dual feed gun 2A42 is taken from the known infantry combat vehicle BMP2.

That way rounds from High Explosive Incendiary to Armor-Piercing Discarding Sabot can be used. Using this gun, the helicopter can attack medium armored targets, infantry as well as targets in the air.

Its effective range both in the air and on ground varies from 2 to 3 km compared to about 1.5 km of the Apache’s main gun.

The 2A42 main gun has also proved to work in conditions of high dustiness and humidity.

In terms of missiles, the Mi-28NE uses the Ataka missile racks along with B-13L rocket pods, each able to carry S-13 rockets. Other rocket options include the S-8 rockets. The Atakas have 4 variants for different tasks. The 9M120 Tandem High Explosive Anti-Tank (HEAT) warhead variant is used against tanks fitted with Explosive Reactive Armor (ERA), its penetrative ability is stated at 800 mm Rolled Homogeneous Armour (RHA). The 9M120F Thermobaric variant is used against infantry, buildings, bunkers, and caves. The 9M120O expanding rod warhead variant is used against other helicopters. All the variants have a range of 6 km. The 9M120M improved version has a longer range (8 km) and better penetration (900 mm of RHA).

Decision time for Indian attack helicopter tender : Defense news
 
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So mrca will soon go to US or Euro, attack helo deal'll also go to US Apache is still leading the world. So guess bad luck will hit russians again that's sad.
 
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So mrca will soon go to US or Euro, attack helo deal'll also go to US Apache is still leading the world. So guess bad luck will hit russians again that's sad.

Its ok, India is doing JVs with the Russians..

BrahMos cruise missile program
5th generation fighter jet program
Sukhoi Su-30MKI program
Ilyushin/HAL Tactical Transport Aircraft

India is also upgrading MIGs and getting a carrier from Russia...So, ya..
 
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So mrca will soon go to US or Euro, attack helo deal'll also go to US Apache is still leading the world. So guess bad luck will hit russians again that's sad.

We just invested 5 billion in the FGFA. Bad luck indeed
 
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You guys are also forgetting the order for 6 talwar class frigates already placed....not to mention there are reports that an order for 4 more is supposed to be placed but its not confirm yet.
 
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I don;t get why the tender is only 22.....we should invest the "little bird" of the US special forces...highly effective platform...its role in Somalia is legendary.....
 
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You guys are also forgetting the order for 6 talwar class frigates already placed....not to mention there are reports that an order for 4 more is supposed to be placed but its not confirm yet.

That's 3 talwars on order and it's an old deal. We're talking about new ones. The 4 more your talking about are rumours. The deal will never take place

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Only 22 attck helis? That's peanuts.

That's in addition to 189 LCHs.. Should be more than enough.
 
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When are we going to learn that the value of life of a Jawan is very valuable.....we need to increase dramatically the spending of each and every individual solider with proper equipment....as well as the paramilitary...
 
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I don;t get why the tender is only 22.....we should invest the "little bird" of the US special forces...highly effective platform...its role in Somalia is legendary.....

The battle of mogadishu was against half naked guerillas. The little bird has a very small payload. Very lightly armoured too. Useless to us
 
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The battle of mogadishu was against half naked guerillas. The little bird has a very small payload. Very lightly armoured too. Useless to us

It would help immensely in ground operations....think all battle wont be armor and fighter jets.....there will a huge element of insertion and precision operations....look at how effective these would be against home grown terrorists like Maoists...I am not saying to get the other helicopter classes....only that we should get some of these to accompany our vast inventory.......Somalia fighters are one of the best fighters there are....hard to believe huh.....very lethal..and extremely mobile....and the use of many effective small weapons from RPGs to booby traps
 
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I would doubt it coz of cold war era acrimony between USA and India that Indian government will be so easily induct USA machines.

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that was black hawk i think....

If Indians wants to be equipped with the best stuff. It should buy from the US. Export version of US weaponry is better than the top of the line stuff from else where
 
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The Mi-28NE matches, if not exceeds the Apache in terms of firepower and self-protection.

Mi-28NE has one hell of firepower!!!! :smitten: But as sated in the article due to modern sensors, net centric capability AH-64D still has uppar hand.

Where will these be deployed?

Pakistan border mainly?

I think they will be deployed along Pakistan border. While most of the 179 LCH will got to Chinese border regions due to more suited for high altitude warfare.
 
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FGFA i heard in news that is around $ 30 billion deal india signed and you saying its just $ 5 billion?
5 billion $ is meant for setting up infrastructure like production line and research work....25 billion for purchase.

That's in addition to 189 LCHs.. Should be more than enough.
Don't forget about 76 armed Dhruvs which are on order and whose development is paid directly from IA's pocket.
I even heard that after this IA will have the largest number of attack choppers in Asia.

I don;t get why the tender is only 22.....we should invest the "little bird" of the US special forces...highly effective platform...its role in Somalia is legendary.....
I think instead of this we should go for armed version of black hawk, it can fulfill the job of both transport and attack...Israel recently tested it and even Sikorsky has claimed that they can build black hawk to work at high altitudes if India wants and if India decides to purchase around 60 (IN order) they will set up manufacturing facility in India.

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