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Debate on the so called "Islamic Terrorism"

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Salam everyone,

i have been noticing some members here continuosly refering to the so called "Islamic terrorism" in many threads and spreading their dirty propaganda. to keep all topics on track, i am inviting those ranting about Islamic terrorism on this thread to discuss it in the light of facts, not what they see on TV.

the term "Islamic terrorism is so commanly used these days that it gives the image of "Islam = terrorism", which is definitely not the case. infact, the term "Islamic terrorism" is in itself self contradicting. If any member here can show me where does Islam teaches violence, i will be most willing to debate.

but then the question arises that if some Muslims conduct acts of terror, is it justifiable to use the term "Islamic terrorism"? well, if someone justifies it, then hindu terrorism definitely exists. similarly Christian terrorism and Jewish terrorism do exist. but these terms are never used by the media. nor these terms are used by dirty propagandaists.

these very propagandaists argue that its justifiable to use the term "Islamic terrorism" due to the fact that the so called Islamic terrorism is widespread, on a large scale. the main source to backup their claim? TV!! but its worth mentioning here, that the very existance of Al-Qaeda, the main (or only) claimed Islamic terrorist organisation, is disputed! many have argued, in light of facts, that Al-Qaeda does not exist. others argue that it does exist, but not at all at the exaggerated scale that the media shows. the media has given news without proofs (other than video clips of the supposed Al-Qaeda leaders). hence unless these propagandaists come up with some hard facts, this thing will remain disputed, and their theory of relating Al-Qaeda to Islamic terrorism will remain flawed.

one more argument there dirty minded propagandaists put forward, is that why dont the Muslims condemn when non-Muslims are killed. why only they get angry when Muslims are killed. well, the simple answer is media bias. almost every Muslim leader condemned every terrorist acts against non-Muslims. thousands of Muslim organisations and communities condemned these acts. but this was not given attention. the following link gives a list of Muslim organisations which condemned 9/11 (the list is so long i bet no one can finish reading):

http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php

so anyone who wants to debate on this topic, please provide your input.
 
the term "Islamic terrorism is so commanly used these days that it gives the image of "Islam = terrorism", which is definitely not the case. infact, the term "Islamic terrorism" is in itself self contradicting. If any member here can show me where does Islam teaches violence, i will be most willing to debate..

I have used the term Islamic terrorism to point at terrorism done under the pretext of fighting for Islam. I never assumed or thought 'Islam= Terrorism', its your guilty consiousness that makes you feel so.

but then the question arises that if some Muslims conduct acts of terror, is it justifiable to use the term "Islamic terrorism"? well, if someone justifies it, then hindu terrorism definitely exists. similarly Christian terrorism and Jewish terrorism do exist. but these terms are never used by the media. nor these terms are used by dirty propagandaists.

The difference is that..Hindus denounce Hindu extremists..and so do Christians. On the ohter hand Muslims are symphatetic towards it.
 
I have used the term Islamic terrorism to point at terrorism done under the pretext of fighting for Islam. I never assumed or thought 'Islam= Terrorism', its your guilty consiousness that makes you feel so.

your statement again is self contradicting. you cannot commit terrorism under the pretext of fighting for Islam. if i call my self a peacefull person and kill people, i wont be called a peaceful terrorist! in Islam, there are certain things which a person does which cause his faith to "collapse". it means that he is no longer a Muslim. terrorism is one of those things. so a Mulsim cannot be a terrorist. so again whatever context you may use the phrase in, "Islamic Terrorism" is always a self contradicting term.

btw i never said that YOU think Islam=terrorism, i said the term "Islamic terrorism" gives the image to the general public that Islam=terroris, so you better think again whos guilty consiousness makes him feel what he feels.


The difference is that..Hindus denounce Hindu extremists..and so do Christians. On the ohter hand Muslims are symphatetic towards it.

what you said is completely wrong. all hindus do not denounce the killings in Gujerat. some even justify them. similarly all christians do not denounce the slaughter of iraqis. similarly all Muslims ARE NOT SYMPATHETIC towards terrorism. and didnt you have enough time to read the link which i gave or you ignored it coz it is in contradiction with your self established beliefs?
 
what you said is completely wrong. all hindus do not denounce the killings in Gujerat. some even justify them. similarly all christians do not denounce the slaughter of iraqis. similarly all Muslims ARE NOT SYMPATHETIC towards terrorism. and didnt you have enough time to read the link which i gave or you ignored it coz it is in contradiction with your self established beliefs?

Why is that when i can criticise the bajrangdal and the modis...you hesitate to criticise the ladens and sadrs?
 
Why is that when i can criticise the bajrangdal and the modis...you hesitate to criticise the ladens and sadrs?

bin laden and sadr are terrorist and will go to hell. happy?

btw i only have a few posts in this forum and i did not have a discussion on this issue here before this, so ofcourse i didnt get the chance to criticize them. but its funny how you reached to a conclusion so quickly.
 
Hindus are not only symphatetic towards terrorists but also vote for them as one of the many exemples is Moodi who they voted again after gujrat masaccre. While organizations like al-qaida and bin laden are considered terrorists in every islamic country.
 
Hindus are not only symphatetic towards terrorists but also vote for them as one of the many exemples is Moodi who they voted again after gujrat masaccre. While organizations like al-qaida and bin laden are considered terrorists in every islamic country.

I have explained why Modi was re elected. As to laden and AQ being terrorists, i have seen celebrations in karachi after the 9/11 attacks.
 
yes, Shan you are right. but my point is that as there are terrorists claiming to be from every religion. but why do people only use "Islamic terrorism" for Mulsims only?
 
I have explained why Modi was re elected. As to laden and AQ being terrorists, i have seen celebrations in karachi after the 9/11 attacks.

i have seen clebrations in india over the Gujerat massacre. i have seen hindus spilling p!g blood in mosques in india. about the 9/11, my chinese classmate gave all our class a treat on 9/12. so he was a Budhist terrorist?
 
I have explained why Modi was re elected. As to laden and AQ being terrorists, i have seen celebrations in karachi after the 9/11 attacks.

So there are explanations on why terrorists like Moodi are re-elected? Laden and AQ are terrorists doesn't matter if some one celebrated or not since also many Hindus celebrated Gujarat massacre.
 
yes, Shan you are right. but my point is that as there are terrorists claiming to be from every religion. but why do people only use "Islamic terrorism" for Mulsims only?

Unlike Hindus we didn't voted for AQ and Laden to do a 9/11. While they re-elect terrorists like Moodi in hope of another Gujarat muslims massacre.
 
So there are explanations on why terrorists like Moodi are re-elected? Laden and AQ are terrorists doesn't matter if some one celebrated or not since also many Hindus celebrated Gujarat massacre.

You know i see modi responsible for inaction of police, not genocide or anything. It was a riot. I didnt see any ways of stopping a crowd in the islambdad for the cartoon issue or the shia sunni violence. How come Modi is still in power and there are no more deaths. Well we are all evil Hindu's for you,
 
people were not killing each other in the cartoon issue. in the recent violence in Karachi, the blame of the deaths of the 41 people went on the ruling party.

there are several ways of stopping a crowd, one of them is that the police should fire in the direction of the attacking mob NOT the group running for safety.(as witnessed in Gujerat)

and btw please stick to the topic, this thread is to debate about the very thing you were ranting all those days.
 
people were not killing each other in the cartoon issue. in the recent violence in Karachi, the blame of the deaths of the 41 people went on the ruling party.

there are several ways of stopping a crowd, one of them is that the police should fire in the direction of the attacking mob NOT the group running for safety.(as witnessed in Gujerat)

and btw please stick to the topic, this thread is to debate about the very thing you were ranting all those days.

862 muslims and 412 hindu's
please tell me how those Hindu's died.
 
862 muslims and 412 hindu's
please tell me how those Hindu's died.

from where you got those figures? the official figures of the Gujerat riots given by your govt. is 790 Muslims and 254 hindus. the 254 hindus also include the ones died in the train fire which was caused from inside the train. remaining hindus might have been killed by angry Mulsims. if you rape their women and burn their houses, then why complain?
 

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