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The deadly Chinese coronavirus outbreak began at a wholesale animal market in Wuhan city, experts have confirmed.

Scientists from the Chinese Centre for Disease Control and Prevention said tests proved humans caught it from animals at the Huanan Seafood Wholesales Market.

It is not clear which animal was carrying the pneumonia-like illness but the market was home to stalls trading dozens of different species, including rats and wolf cubs.

Last week experts suggested the disease may have originated in snakes, which are known carriers of coronaviruses.

The Huanan market was a hotspot with locals, who could choose to buy their meat 'warm' meaning it had been slaughtered just moment prior.

'Thirty-one of the 33 positive samples were collected from the western zone of the market, where booths of wildlife trading concentrated,' the CDC said, according to China's state-owned Xinhua news agency.


'The result suggests that the novel coronavirus outbreak is highly relevant to the trading of wild animals.'

The epidemic has so far claimed the lives of more than 80 people and infected nearly 3,000 in a month - but experts predict that number to be closer to 100,000.

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© Provided by Daily Mail The rapid-build hospital in Wuhan started to take shape today, January 27, as hundreds of people work tirelessly to build the pre-fabricated structure in a matter of days

Chinese authorities temporarily barred the trading of wild animals on Sunday. The Government said those who ignored the ban would be 'severely investigated and punished'.

Public health experts had previously warned that China's live animal markets were the perfect breeding ground for emerging infectious diseases.

A total of 15 countries or territories outside of China have now confirmed cases, with Sri Lanka and Cambodia the latest to announce and a second case diagnosed in Canada today, in the wife of the Toronto man who was the first patient.

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© The coronavirus outbreak has now killed 82 people and struck down more than 2,800. Cambodia today became the latest country to confirm the virus has spread there. The government confirmed a Chinese national who travelled to the city of Sihanoukville was infected

CORONAVIRUS: WHAT WE KNOW SO FAR
What is this virus?

The virus has been identified as a new type of coronavirus. Coronaviruses are a large family of pathogens, most of which cause mild respiratory infections such as the common cold.

But coronaviruses can also be deadly. SARS, or severe acute respiratory syndrome, is caused by a coronavirus and killed hundreds of people in China and Hong Kong in the early 2000s.

Can it kill?

Yes. Eighty-one people have so far died after testing positive for the virus.

What are the symptoms?

Its symptoms are typically a fever, cough and trouble breathing, but some patients have developed pneumonia, a potentially life-threatening infection that causes inflammation of the small air sacs in the lungs. People carrying the novel coronavirus may only have mild symptoms, such as a sore throat. They may assume they have a common cold and not seek medical attention, experts fear.

How is it detected?

The virus's genetic sequencing was released by scientists in China to the rest of the world to enable other countries to quickly diagnose potential new cases. This helps other countries respond quickly to disease outbreaks.

To contain the virus, airports are detecting infected people with temperature checks. But as with every virus, it has an incubation period, meaning detection is not always possible because symptoms have not appeared yet.

How did it start and spread?

The first cases identified were among people connected to the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan.

Cases have since been identified elsewhere which could have been spread through human-to-human transmission.

What are countries doing to prevent the spread?

Countries in Asia have stepped up airport surveillance. They include Japan, South Korea, Thailand, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Malaysia and Philippines.

Australia and the US are also screening patients for a high temperature, and the UK announced it will screen passengers returning from Wuhan.

Is it similar to anything we've ever seen before?

Experts have compared it to the 2003 outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS). The epidemic started in southern China and killed more than 700 people in mainland China, Hong Kong and elsewhere

Beijing also today saw the Wuhan coronavirus claim its 82nd death when a 50-year-old man died in hospital in the nation's capital at around 8pm local time (12pm GMT).

China has extended its New Year holiday by three days to February 2 to fight the outbreak as people have now been diagnosed with it in every corner of China, except for Tibet.

A team of scientists in the UK believe more than 100,000 people have been infected already but many of them without knowing, and expect the case and death tolls both to continue rising as the outbreak goes on.

The damage has spread to the stock markets, too, as investors fear travel cancellations and business closures, as well as growing panic outside of China, are damaging the world economy.

Researchers in Hong Kong have warned the outbreak could become a 'global epidemic' if the Chinese government doesn't start 'draconian' travel restrictions on its citizens.

Beijing insists it is continuing drastic efforts to contain the outbreak.

New cases today include the first to be diagnosed in Cambodia, in a Chinese national, and a second in Toronto, Canada, where the wife of the first Canadian patient is now being treated for coronavirus.

The disease's spread has seemed all but unstoppable over the last week, and scientists at Hong Kong University say more drastic action needs to be taken.

There is a risk the virus could trigger a global epidemic – when the illness spreads uncontrollably around the world – if the Chinese government doesn't clamp down on the movement of people, the researchers said.

'We have to be prepared that this particular epidemic may be about to become a global epidemic,' said Dr Gabriel Leung.

'Substantial, draconian measures limiting population mobility should be taken sooner, rather than later.'

Concerns about the virus have been growing as scientists say people may be passing on the virus before they even realise they are ill, and the number of predicted cases has soared dramatically.

China's health minister Ma Xiaowei said yesterday 'it seems like the ability of the virus to spread is getting stronger' and that it can be passed from person-to-person even before symptoms appear.

And researchers at Imperial College London have estimated that more than 100,000 people may be infected around the world already. The same team had previously thought the number was around 4,000, up to 10,000.

Professor Mark Harris, from the University of Leeds, said: 'Its true that the numbers... look scary.

'One positive spin is that if we are only aware of five per cent of the total cases, the implication is that 95 per cent of cases have only resulted in either mild symptoms such that the infected people did not consider it serious enough to seek medical help, or indeed the virus may be causing an inapparent infection.

'This would significantly reduce the apparent [death] rates.'

The mayor of Wuhan, where the outbreak started, has admitted he and the ruling Chinese Communist Party did not react quickly enough to the coronavirus danger.

https://www.msn.com/en-ae/news/worl...cubs-were-slaughtered-on-order-tests-confirm/
 
An interesting Fact:

Worldwide, the flu causes up to 5 million cases of severe illness worldwide and kills up to 650,000 people every year, according to the World Health Organization. < thats your FLU

Influenza has already sickened at least 13 million Americans this winter, hospitalizing 120,000 and killing 6,600, according to the CDC. And flu season hasn’t even peaked. In a bad year, the flu kills up to 61,000 Americans.
 
An interesting Fact:

Worldwide, the flu causes up to 5 million cases of severe illness worldwide and kills up to 650,000 people every year, according to the World Health Organization. < thats your FLU

Influenza has already sickened at least 13 million Americans this winter, hospitalizing 120,000 and killing 6,600, according to the CDC. And flu season hasn’t even peaked. In a bad year, the flu kills up to 61,000 Americans.

I don't understand why people keep comparing traditional flu season death toll to this particular flu?

Traditional Flu did not kill as many per strain, the reason why that is a "problem" if you look at the number is because out here in the world, there are hundreds of different flu virus we know and more that we don't know and all these contribute to the flu season toll depends on where you are and what time of season there are.

What's interest fact is this

According to CDC Most common flu virus have an R-0 of less than 1. and a incubation period of 3 to 5 days and a CFR of less than 1%. While the nCoV have a R-0 of 2 to 4.5 depends on community, latency and incubation period of 2 weeks and a CFR of 2.6% at this moment.
 
The deadly Chinese coronavirus outbreak began at a wholesale animal market in Wuhan city, experts have confirmed.

Scientists from the Chinese Centre for Disease Control and Prevention said tests proved humans caught it from animals at the Huanan Seafood Wholesales Market.

It is not clear which animal was carrying the pneumonia-like illness but the market was home to stalls trading dozens of different species, including rats and wolf cubs.

Last week experts suggested the disease may have originated in snakes, which are known carriers of coronaviruses.

The Huanan market was a hotspot with locals, who could choose to buy their meat 'warm' meaning it had been slaughtered just moment prior.

'Thirty-one of the 33 positive samples were collected from the western zone of the market, where booths of wildlife trading concentrated,' the CDC said, according to China's state-owned Xinhua news agency.


'The result suggests that the novel coronavirus outbreak is highly relevant to the trading of wild animals.'

The epidemic has so far claimed the lives of more than 80 people and infected nearly 3,000 in a month - but experts predict that number to be closer to 100,000.

BBZnpcq.img
© Provided by Daily Mail The rapid-build hospital in Wuhan started to take shape today, January 27, as hundreds of people work tirelessly to build the pre-fabricated structure in a matter of days

Chinese authorities temporarily barred the trading of wild animals on Sunday. The Government said those who ignored the ban would be 'severely investigated and punished'.

Public health experts had previously warned that China's live animal markets were the perfect breeding ground for emerging infectious diseases.

A total of 15 countries or territories outside of China have now confirmed cases, with Sri Lanka and Cambodia the latest to announce and a second case diagnosed in Canada today, in the wife of the Toronto man who was the first patient.

BBZnk3J.img
© The coronavirus outbreak has now killed 82 people and struck down more than 2,800. Cambodia today became the latest country to confirm the virus has spread there. The government confirmed a Chinese national who travelled to the city of Sihanoukville was infected

CORONAVIRUS: WHAT WE KNOW SO FAR
What is this virus?

The virus has been identified as a new type of coronavirus. Coronaviruses are a large family of pathogens, most of which cause mild respiratory infections such as the common cold.

But coronaviruses can also be deadly. SARS, or severe acute respiratory syndrome, is caused by a coronavirus and killed hundreds of people in China and Hong Kong in the early 2000s.

Can it kill?

Yes. Eighty-one people have so far died after testing positive for the virus.

What are the symptoms?

Its symptoms are typically a fever, cough and trouble breathing, but some patients have developed pneumonia, a potentially life-threatening infection that causes inflammation of the small air sacs in the lungs. People carrying the novel coronavirus may only have mild symptoms, such as a sore throat. They may assume they have a common cold and not seek medical attention, experts fear.

How is it detected?

The virus's genetic sequencing was released by scientists in China to the rest of the world to enable other countries to quickly diagnose potential new cases. This helps other countries respond quickly to disease outbreaks.

To contain the virus, airports are detecting infected people with temperature checks. But as with every virus, it has an incubation period, meaning detection is not always possible because symptoms have not appeared yet.

How did it start and spread?

The first cases identified were among people connected to the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan.

Cases have since been identified elsewhere which could have been spread through human-to-human transmission.

What are countries doing to prevent the spread?

Countries in Asia have stepped up airport surveillance. They include Japan, South Korea, Thailand, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Malaysia and Philippines.

Australia and the US are also screening patients for a high temperature, and the UK announced it will screen passengers returning from Wuhan.

Is it similar to anything we've ever seen before?

Experts have compared it to the 2003 outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS). The epidemic started in southern China and killed more than 700 people in mainland China, Hong Kong and elsewhere

Beijing also today saw the Wuhan coronavirus claim its 82nd death when a 50-year-old man died in hospital in the nation's capital at around 8pm local time (12pm GMT).

China has extended its New Year holiday by three days to February 2 to fight the outbreak as people have now been diagnosed with it in every corner of China, except for Tibet.

A team of scientists in the UK believe more than 100,000 people have been infected already but many of them without knowing, and expect the case and death tolls both to continue rising as the outbreak goes on.

The damage has spread to the stock markets, too, as investors fear travel cancellations and business closures, as well as growing panic outside of China, are damaging the world economy.

Researchers in Hong Kong have warned the outbreak could become a 'global epidemic' if the Chinese government doesn't start 'draconian' travel restrictions on its citizens.

Beijing insists it is continuing drastic efforts to contain the outbreak.

New cases today include the first to be diagnosed in Cambodia, in a Chinese national, and a second in Toronto, Canada, where the wife of the first Canadian patient is now being treated for coronavirus.

The disease's spread has seemed all but unstoppable over the last week, and scientists at Hong Kong University say more drastic action needs to be taken.

There is a risk the virus could trigger a global epidemic – when the illness spreads uncontrollably around the world – if the Chinese government doesn't clamp down on the movement of people, the researchers said.

'We have to be prepared that this particular epidemic may be about to become a global epidemic,' said Dr Gabriel Leung.

'Substantial, draconian measures limiting population mobility should be taken sooner, rather than later.'

Concerns about the virus have been growing as scientists say people may be passing on the virus before they even realise they are ill, and the number of predicted cases has soared dramatically.

China's health minister Ma Xiaowei said yesterday 'it seems like the ability of the virus to spread is getting stronger' and that it can be passed from person-to-person even before symptoms appear.

And researchers at Imperial College London have estimated that more than 100,000 people may be infected around the world already. The same team had previously thought the number was around 4,000, up to 10,000.

Professor Mark Harris, from the University of Leeds, said: 'Its true that the numbers... look scary.

'One positive spin is that if we are only aware of five per cent of the total cases, the implication is that 95 per cent of cases have only resulted in either mild symptoms such that the infected people did not consider it serious enough to seek medical help, or indeed the virus may be causing an inapparent infection.

'This would significantly reduce the apparent [death] rates.'

The mayor of Wuhan, where the outbreak started, has admitted he and the ruling Chinese Communist Party did not react quickly enough to the coronavirus danger.

https://www.msn.com/en-ae/news/worl...cubs-were-slaughtered-on-order-tests-confirm/
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...-not-be-source-novel-virus-spreading-globally

So far, evidence pointed out the outbreak from seafood market cannot be confirmed. They are many evidence prove that.
 
I don't think it can spread from snake. It must spread from some mammals.
like previous two viruss in China, bats were culprit. Same in U.S.A, Ebola virus. It was spread from bats.
This new virus spread from some mammals but snake??? I suspect .
 
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...-not-be-source-novel-virus-spreading-globally

So far, evidence pointed out the outbreak from seafood market cannot be confirmed. They are many evidence prove that.

Actually, if you read the article, it does not suggest the outbreak from seafood market cannot be confirmed, it rather suggest that there "Could Be" more than one source of the outbreak. The seafood market was confirmed as at least one of the source of outbreak because it link 28 of the first 41 case prior to human to human case were reported.

And that is not at all a good news, that mean there could be a secondary or tertiary site other than the market. It also suggested Chinese authority manipulate data....
 
I've read a lot of conflicting news. A lot of it says that the source cannot be confirmed at this time.

https://www.popsci.com/story/health/wuhan-coronavirus-china-wet-market-wild-animal/

I actually wish they could confirm that it came from the market and from wildlife in the hopes that this will turn the Chinese government and society against that practice and finally ban it.

The scientist cannot confirm the "Origin" of the virus. Not particular place that started the outbreak, because there can be more than one location starting the outbreak...….

In this case, the primary case (Known as the first 41 that were confirmed to be infected prior to 8 January 2020) show a discrepancy. Where 28 of the 41 have direct contact to the wet market (Mostly stall owner) and the other 13 did not. Now it worth notice that there were no case of human-human transfer prior to 13 January, which mean the primary case of 41 must have some contact with the origin of virus, otherwise a transmission cannot be possible.

Now virologist deduced 3 possibilities.

1.) The Market is the origin, which mean unclean meat inside the market was responsible for the outbreak, and hence the source of the outbreak. Where the other 13 who do not have connection to the market were secondary transfer.

2.) The Market is not the origin, which mean something else (of unknown origin) have contaminate the market from one or more of the 13 and infected the other 28 who have connection to the market

3.) Both the market and the second unknown source are the origin, and there were no cross contamination.

Now, we probably won't know until this crisis is over, because at this point, the focus is containing the virus, while knowing where they come from helps, but not necessarily the important information at this point. On the other hand, what we know is that coronavirus usually carries by Bat and transferred by zoonosis
 
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