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The 'Eurabia' Myth
Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:16
New York Post

MUSLIMS TAKE OVER EUROPE? SORRY, THERE'S NO CHANCE


Paradise, not: Europe still has plenty of haters who'll keep all Muslims marginalized (or worse).


-- A RASH of pop prophets tell us that Muslims in Europe are reproducing so fast and European societies are so weak and listless that, before you know it, the continent will become "Eurabia," with all those topless gals on the Riviera wearing veils.


Well, maybe not.


The notion that continental Europeans, who are world-champion haters, will let the impoverished Muslim immigrants they confine to ghettos take over their societies and extend the caliphate from the Amalfi Coast to Amsterdam has it exactly wrong.


The endangered species isn't the "peace loving" European lolling in his or her welfare state, but the continent's Muslims immigrants - and their multi-generation descendents - who were foolish enough to imagine that Europeans would share their toys.

In fact, Muslims are hardly welcome to pick up the trash on Europe's playgrounds.

Don't let Europe's current round of playing pacifist dress-up fool you: This is the continent that perfected genocide and ethnic cleansing, the happy-go-lucky slice of humanity that brought us such recent hits as the Holocaust and Srebrenica.

THE historical patterns are clear: When Europeans feel sufficiently threatened - even when the threat's concocted nonsense - they don't just react, they over-react with stunning ferocity. One of their more-humane (and frequently employed) techniques has been ethnic cleansing.

And Europeans won't even need to re-write "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" with an Islamist theme - real Muslims zealots provide Europe's bigots with all the propaganda they need. Al Qaeda and its wannabe fans are the worst thing that could have happened to Europe's Muslims. Europe hasn't broken free of its historical addictions - we're going to see Europe's history reprised on meth.

The year 1492 wasn't just big for Columbus. It's also when Spain expelled its culturally magnificent Jewish community en masse - to be followed shortly by the Moors, Muslims who had been on the Iberian Peninsula for more than 800 years.

Jews got the boot elsewhere in Europe, too - if they weren't just killed on the spot. When Shakespeare wrote "The Merchant of Venice," it's a safe bet he'd never met a Jew. The Chosen People were long-gone from Jolly Olde England.

From the French expulsion of the Huguenots right down to the last century's massive ethnic cleansings, Europeans have never been shy about showing "foreigners and subversives" the door.

And Europe's Muslims don't even have roots, by historical standards. For the Europeans, they're just the detritus of colonial history. When Europeans feel sufficiently provoked and threatened - a few serious terrorist attacks could do it - Europe's Muslims will be lucky just to be deported.

Sound impossible? Have the Europeans become too soft for that sort of thing? Has narcotic socialism destroyed their ability to hate? Is their atheism a prelude to total surrender to faith-intoxicated Muslim jihadis?

The answer to all of the above questions is a booming "No!" The Europeans have enjoyed a comfy ride for the last 60 years - but the very fact that they don't want it to stop increases their rage and sense of being besieged by Muslim minorities they've long refused to assimilate (and which no longer want to assimilate).

WE don't need to gloss over the many Muslim acts of barbarism down the centuries to recognize that the Europeans are just better at the extermination process. From the massacre of all Muslims and Jews (and quite a few Eastern Christians) when the Crusaders reached Jerusalem in 1099 to the massacre of all the Jews in Buda (not yet attached to Pest across the Danube) when the "liberating" Habsburg armies retook the citadel at the end of the 17th century, Europeans have just been better organized for genocide.

It's the difference between the messy Turkish execution of the Armenian genocide and the industrial efficiency of the Holocaust. Hey, when you love your work, you get good at it.

Far from enjoying the prospect of taking over Europe by having babies, Europe's Muslims are living on borrowed time. When a third of French voters have demonstrated their willingness to vote for Jean-Marie Le Pen's National Front - a party that makes the Ku Klux Klan seem like Human Rights Watch - all predictions of Europe going gently into that good night are surreal.

I have no difficulty imagining a scenario in which U.S. Navy ships are at anchor and U.S. Marines have gone ashore at Brest, Bremerhaven or Bari to guarantee the safe evacuation of Europe's Muslims. After all, we were the only ones to do anything about the slaughter of Muslims in the Balkans. And even though we botched it, our effort in Iraq was meant to give the Middle East's Muslims a last chance to escape their self-inflicted misery.

AND we're lucky. The United States attracts the quality. American Muslims have a higher income level than our national average. We hear about the handful of rabble-rousers, but more of our fellow Americans who happen to be Muslims are doctors, professors and entrepreneurs.

And the American dream is still alive and well, thanks: Even the newest taxi driver stumbling over his English grammar knows he can truly become an American.

But European Muslims can't become French or Dutch or Italian or German. Even if they qualify for a passport, they remain second-class citizens. On a good day. And they're supposed to take over the continent that's exported more death than any other?

All the copy-cat predictions of a Muslim takeover of Europe not only ignore history and Europe's ineradicable viciousness, but do a serious disservice by exacerbating fear and hatred. And when it comes to hatred, trust me: The Europeans don't need our help.

The jobless and hopeless kids in the suburbs may burn a couple of cars, but we'll always have Paris.

Ralph Peters is a retired United States Army Lieutenant Colonel who has regularly appeared on PBS, FOX News, CNN and other networks with commentary on military issues and current affairs. He is also author of the article 'Blood Borders' which was published in the US Army Magazine 'Armed Forces Journal' in June 2006, in which he advocated dividing up the Muslim Middle East.

Extract of recent interview with Ralph PetersPK: Is a clash of civilizations indeed taking place in Western Europe? Rather than a clash between the forces of Christendom vs. the forces of radical Islam is the clash instead between Islamists vs. post-Christian European secular elites?

Peters: No European state—not one—has a functional model for integrating immigrants from different cultural and religious backgrounds. This is, indeed, a clash of civilizations. Europe’s secular elites are, in fact, the last to get it. The average Frenchman or German or Englishman understands that the situation is dysfunctional, but the governing elites insist on pretending that all will be well—despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. And, of course, there’s blame on every side. Immigrants don’t want to assimilate, but neither do Europeans really want them to assimilate. The miraculous North American model, in which “America makes Americans,” has no counterpart in Europe. And for all their pacifist masquerading, Europeans remain really good haters—you can still smell the smoke of the ovens of Auschwitz.

PK: You made a very interesting point at our last conference, which you will be discussing at this conference: You said that, given Europe’s often brutal track record of dealing with ethnic minorities, we should not be surprised if these “high-minded” Europeans suddenly get real ugly with the Muslims in their midst. Could these people crack down on Muslims? And is that already happening?

Peters: The hatred is already there, just waiting for trigger events—such as a wave of terror attacks—to operationalize it. Native Europeans despise Muslims, while Muslim immigrants despise Europeans and their values (and the Saudis continue to fund the exacerbation of hatred and the deepening of social divisions). As I’ve said many times, Europe is the continent that perfected genocide and ethnic cleansing—and that has exported more man-wrought death than any other continent. We still identify too readily with Europe because Europeans look like (most of) us. But American civilization and European civilization are profoundly different and ever more divergent. When I look at the situation in France, for example, where both the native-born and the immigrants behave insufferably, my reaction is, “A plague on both their houses.”

The Islamists are, in fact, correct that Europe is culturally degenerate. I don’t mean this in the moral sense—people are people, with the same urges everywhere, and all puritanical societies are hypocritical societies; rather I find Europe spiritually and ethically degenerate—but that leads us back to the potential for a new “Great Awakening.”

PK: This is, of course, all speculation, but if such a crackdown took place, what might it look like? How violent could it get? Perhaps most interesting, how might America and the rest of the world react? Could we face a stunning situation where one day America feels compelled to come to the rescue of persecuted Muslims in Western Europe?

Peters: I have no difficulty imagining a scenario in which American naval vessels and U.S. Marines are in European ports to evacuate Muslims expelled from their countries of residence. Compounding the tragedy, Muslim countries would attempt to refuse to repatriate them, precipitating a wave of consequent crises. The Muslims of Europe may end as the 21st century’s displaced persons, a mass without a home, confined to holding camps, etc. Of course, there are many other less-dramatic potential scenarios. But one does sense that Europe’s Muslims are living on borrowed time. Good Lord, consider how thoroughly the Jewish middle classes had integrated into Europe over the centuries—and virtually every European state happily packed them off to Bergen-Belsen.

PK: You are a military historian, and a talented and insightful one whose predictions are often right on the mark. So, I will ask this bluntly: Could there eventually be a war in Western Europe between native Europeans and Muslim immigrants? What type of war—wars of jihad in certain countries, continental-wide war?

Peters: I’m a student of history, but would not presume to call myself a historian. I’m interested in how history works, not in compiling footnotes.

There may be abortive, if lurid, Muslim uprisings in Europe—it all depends on how a very complex equation plays out—but if there are, they will fail miserably and swiftly. There will be no Eurabia. Jihad in Europe is doomed. There will be no continent-wide war, although each country would be glad for an excuse to participate in continent-wide repression. When their welfare is sufficiently threatened, Europeans will return to form as heartless killers and ethnic cleansers.

Perhaps Europe will muddle through. Historically, muddling through is humankind’s usual response. But the portents are not good—and the demagogues on both sides are at work. Overall, I see the behavior of Muslim radicals in Europe as suicidal. But, then, we’re dealing with a fanatic fringe whose members regard death as a promotion. They’d be perfectly happy to take innocent Muslims—and there are many innocent Muslims—with them.

PK: Do you feel that the characterization of 21st century Europe as a kind of eventual “Eurabia” is apt? Could parts of Europe one day be governed by Sharia law?

Peters: There is zero chance of Europe becoming Eurabia or of parts of Europe being governed formally by Sharia law. The whole Eurabia/“the-Muslims-are-taking-over” hysteria is nuts. Even if Swedes will no longer fight for Lutheranism, by God, they’ll kill without remorse to keep their saunas.

PK: Thanks for talking to us, Ralph.
 
lol, what a retarded thread.

Now let me start a thread:

" Debunking flying spaghetti monster myth" ...

I mean, do you even have to 'debunk' something SO ridiculous and OBVIOUS garbage?

PS, the article is pretty garbage itself.

I don't know why some people have obsession with Islam and Muslims etc...Just calm down, relax, and live life.
 
lol, what a retarded thread.

Now let me start a thread:

" Debunking flying spaghetti monster myth" ...

I mean, do you even have to 'debunk' something SO ridiculous and OBVIOUS garbage?

PS, the article is pretty garbage itself.

I don't know why some people have obsession with Islam and Muslims etc...Just calm down, relax, and live life.
I disagree. Sentiments of local population is crushed by their governments. Once the government starts to loosen up those liberal policies, you'll start to see the real drama. The truth is these scumbag Islamists are ruining things for all of us. Just think about it for a second, would you like if some migrant groups come to Pakistan and start harassing natives, aggressively promote their culture, create neighbourhoods that radiates an impression that drives off natives etc.?

It's true that America is a welcoming place of immigrants since America is very selective in immigration process unlike Europe. Immigrants in USA are mostly educated people who are capable of perfectly integrating into American culture. No to mention USA is multicultural to its core and built upon the idea of multiculturalism unlike Europe.
 
The Eurabia shit was spread by the same fucks who keep spamming 'White-Genocide' crap on youtube.
 
Tell us what you REALLY think. Don't hold back.:woot:

Now,i know that so many americans are stupid,but do they really have to wear their badge of stupidity so proudly like this retired colonel does?
When his country,the US, is the chief war monger on the planet in the last 6 decades,bombing countries to oblivion left and right ,this retard has the audacity to point fingers at Europe.Give me a break !
 
Now,i know that so many americans are stupid,but do they really have to wear their badge of stupidity so proudly like this retired colonel does?
When his country,the US, is the chief war monger on the planet in the last 6 decades,bombing countries to oblivion left and right ,this retard has the audacity to point fingers at Europe.Give me a break !
certain points he made does make sense. There is a big difference between status of immigrant in USA and Europe. In america, everybody is proud american.
This is something america does amazaingly well, and europe cannot.

I can not get my head around the fact although american are generally less informed, more religious christians compared to increasingly atheist and liberal europe, but when it comes to xenophobia and hatred (against muslims) europe takes the cake.
 
certain points he made does make sense. There is a big difference between status of immigrant in USA and Europe. In america, everybody is proud american.
This is something america does amazaingly well, and europe cannot.

I can not get my head around the fact although american are generally less informed, more religious christians compared to increasingly atheist and liberal europe, but when it comes to xenophobia and hatred (against muslims) europe takes the cake.

That's because America isn't besieged by boats full of immigrants,they can afford to be selective.

Major Nidal Hasan was a proud american to,so were the Tsarnaevs.
 
If you go to Europe - be kind, respect its historical and cultural traditions. Be respectful of Christianity. Let live to the people in whose country you come - because you're there a guest and not the host.
 
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That's because America isn't besieged by boats full of immigrants,..

No, they just walk here. We've got about 13,000,000 of them. And for being so 'uninformed' and 'stupid' I'd say we've made out a little better than most of the world. Ask the masses in India or Pakistan why their countries are such a sh!t-hole if they are so 'smart' and 'informed'. How many people are trying to get INTO 'smart and 'informed' China ? You see video where the host asks simple questions and only posts the goofy answers and you think . 'Boy, those Americans are idiots'. I bet I could shoot hours of the same stuff anywhere in the world with some selective editing. Let me go ask the rat catcher in India or the street sweeper in China about foreign policy and see what he comes up with. Shit, some of you guys STILL have warlords and areas of your country the Army can go into. And WE'RE stupid ? F you, man.:usflag:
 
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If people actually read the article. It talks about European hatred for Muslims.. well essentially.. muslims haven't exactly been angels in Europe either, and I am not even talking about extremism.
For e.g. the Muslim expacts in Britian are mostly those who come there to sit and eat on the benefits without contributing much to the economy. Those that do , tend to keep it rolling within their own community.
Head to paris .. the number of iranian and Arab pimps all around.. To Germany where the Turks refuse to blend into the population. and so on. If you head to a country, you tend to respect who they are and add your best instead of imposing yourself on them.

However, some of the better integration testaments for Muslims have been out of two Scandinavian countries..and that too because the immigrants there are of a more educated class. 
The article dates 2007 and you are getting SWAG in 2013. Get a life mate.

That is true.. shut if off shall we?
 
Where the heck is Eurabia? :omghaha:

They attracted too many immigrants, and hence the problem. And yes, ghettos are real. Unemployment in both the middle east and now Europe can lead to more problems.
 
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