Dawood's conversation recorded by Western intelligence agency, location traced to Karachi

[Foggy_Bottom]

Dawood has more than just Pakistan's dirty jobs with him.. the Urbis have their dealings with him.. he helped move a lot of black funds in and out of Dubai.. which is why he can be there and the Indians cant touch him.

Did UAE not hand over the hijacker of Indian airlines or a high profile terrorist to India, or am I mistaken?

 

[Areesh]

But janab Areesh- you said the same thing about us when we kept saying that OBL is in Pakistan.

Why are you dismissing real intelligence, and repeated confirmations even from intelligence services from outside India. You can never have 100% proof because to get it, you need your own law enforcement to help gather the proof. No outside country can give you it all sitting outside your country. Your agencies have to be responsive.


You are real victims of these terrorists, surely you must have taken a moment to say, " Wait a minute, time and time again we have gone down the wrong path, time and time again we have trusted blindly that surely we are not harbouring dangerous characters". How difficult would it for you to try something different and say " Too many people, countries and sources are pointing in our direction". As victims of these terror acts, we must at minimum make sure for the love of our country- that we eliminate the strategy of harbouring such people".

Unless you have credible proof that Pakistan was hosting OBL your reference of OBL doesn't mke any sense.

As for Bharatis. They and their media lives on such stories. Every other day they come up with some stupid story with Pakistan or China as a villain. What should we do? Start dancing everyday to satisfy their paranoia? You have something credible, then use the diplomatic channels to convey it. Just like what we did after Peshawar attack.

Despite USA has its own history of lies and deceit, you guys are far more credible than Indians.

 

[jbond197]

I'm not sure where he is at this moment, but our intelligence did find him in Pakistan for the longest.

I'm just wondering what do you think about this Dawood fella?

• Do you feel he is an asset to Pakistan.
• Do you think him killing hundreds of civilians, including their women and children in India was deserved.
• Do you hope that he continues to enjoy patronage in Pakistan

Since the victims were mostly Hindus so they very well deserved to die.. Pakistanis cries only when a Muslim is hurt..

Anyways, this is not any new info.. The presence of Dawood in Pakistan is long know and it proves yet again that all the worst criminals and terrorists of the world can easily find safe-home in Pakistan, the requirement is he need to be a Muslim and Anti-India, Anti-West, Anti-Afghan etc etc.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Yup, we play poker on Fridays....wanna join?

So whom do you poke on fridays?

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

Unless you have credible proof that Pakistan was hosting OBL your reference of OBL doesn't mke any sense..

Whoa! you think OBL getting killed in Pakistan and living in the biggest building in the area, a short distance from your West point was a conspiracy?

 

[jbond197]

Did UAE not hand over the hijacker of Indian airlines or a high profile terrorist to India, or am I mistaken?

All that happened because of American help, I guess. Because in the past Saudis had refused to co-operate with India on similar requests..

 

[Areesh]

Whoa! you think OBL getting killed in Pakistan was a conspiracy?
Have a nice a day. I mistakenly thought you to be grounded in somewhat reality. I will move on.

Bold part. I never said that. Let me simplify it even more for you.

I just said if you have any credible proof that Pakistan was intentionally and officially hosting OBL your reference of bringing him in this discussion makes no sense.

 

[Not Sure]

Liyari main ho ga sala

Azamgarh ka muhajir Lyari me nahi chhup sakta.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I'm not sure where he is at this moment, but our intelligence did find him in Pakistan for the longest.

I'm just wondering what do you think about this Dawood fella?

• Do you feel he is an asset to Pakistan.
• Do you think him killing hundreds of civilians, including their women and children in India was deserved.
• Do you hope that he continues to enjoy patronage in Pakistan

I wonder what sort of replies you will get. The trouble is that he and his works appeal to a set of fairly simple-minded Pakistanis who cannot see beyond the tips of their noses. They serious support acts of terror and of wanton killing in a kind of tit-for-tat sense, having already convinced themselves that whatever they are capable of, must necessarily therefore be in the repertory of those whom they have decided to make the enemy. This cannot be stopped by outside intervention, this will not respond to reasoning. It is a deep-rooted, almost Oedipal hostility which is implanted in their thinking within their identity. The answers that you would get if people were to be truthful and honest - I haven't read past your post yet - would be

• Yes, he is an asset to Pakistan, as long as he is causing pain and devastation to India and to Indians;
• Yes, his killings are supportable, because he avenges all the thousands killed in Pakistan, in
  • actions against Pakistani Hindus
  • actions against Pakistani Ahmadis
  • actions against Pakistani Shia
  • and now, action against the Pakistani military and its dependents
  • criminal activity and ethnic violence in the big cities, especially in Karachi
  • fighting for Islamist objectives in the frontier provinces
  • fighting for their autonomy or their independence in Baluchistan
  • any unexplained death whatsoever
• and Yes, he will, it is hoped, continue to enjoy patronage in Pakistan, if for no other reason than because some singularly immature and irresponsible individuals should have the opportunity to write taunting remarks on the Internet and redeem some of their lost sense of self-worth.

Not much of a surprise. But heaven alone knows what will emerge.

 

[jbond197]

Azamgarh ka muhajir Lyari me nahi chhup sakta.

ab to Altaf Bhai ko hi supaari deni padegi....

 

[karakoram]

But janab Areesh- you said the same thing about us when we kept saying that OBL is in Pakistan.

Why are you dismissing real intelligence, and repeated confirmations even from intelligence services from outside India. You can never have 100% proof because to get it, you need your own law enforcement to help gather the proof. No outside country can give you it all sitting outside your country. Your agencies have to be responsive.


You are real victims of these terrorists, surely you must have taken a moment to say, " Wait a minute, time and time again we have gone down the wrong path, time and time again we have trusted blindly that surely we are not harbouring dangerous characters". How difficult would it for you to try something different and say " Too many people, countries and sources are pointing in our direction". As victims of these terror acts, we must at minimum make sure for the love of our country- that we eliminate the strategy of harbouring such people".

Are you sure you are not an indian ? And your are from us state state department :-D :-D

 

[Capt.Popeye]

And they will be recorded in the future, "Bhai Mian"(as he is addressed) is not going anywhere.. and honestly.. he and I have been under one roof at some point in time. and you cant tell the man apart from the paan wala if not for his fabulous attire.

Of course. Even Paanwalas look respectable compared to your 'Bhai Mian'. Actually he looks more like the sleazy 'Bhadwaas' who hang out outside the redlight areas of Munshiganj or his own home turf of Shuklaji Street.
As for his "addas" in Dubai; I've seen some of them. When the heat on him was less, he even some-times went to collect rent from some of his tenants there.... he loved to have chats with them.

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

Bold part. I never said that. Let me simplify it even more for you.

I just said if you have any credible proof that Pakistan was intentionally and officially hosting OBL your reference of bringing him in this discussion makes no sense.

Yeah, my bad. I corrected my post after I reread what you had posted.

But again I will remind you that we can't provide 100% proof without your own agencies looking into it. We can't conduct interviews and investigations inside Pakistan.

Like we had our 911 commision report from Congress,. Was there not such an official investigation that was underway by the civilian government but was then suddenly stopped?

 

[Joe Shearer]

He has more than just Pakistan's dirty jobs with him.. the Urbis have their dealings with him.. he helped move a lot of black funds in and out of Dubai.. which is why he can be there and the Indians cant touch him.

And this, in case you haven't already guessed, Mr. US_statedept_retired, is the diametrically opposite end of the spectrum of opinion from the sections on the fringe - meant the intellectual fringe, not the political.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Did UAE not hand over the hijacker of Indian airlines or a high profile terrorist to India, or am I mistaken?

Not just UAE, but even KSA canned some "fish" for India. Now they are singing for their supper. How else do you think that 26/11 is gradually unravelling? Daood Gilani was not the only source of evidence.