Dassault in talks with India about more Rafale jets, says CEO

[kaykay]

http://wap.business-standard.com/ar...more-rafale-jets-says-ceo-117090500599_1.html

The chief executive of Dassault Aviation on Tuesday said the company was still in discussions with India over the possible purchase of additional twin-engine Rafale fighter jets, on top of the 36 ones India ordered in 2016.
The chief executive of Dassault Aviation on Tuesday said the company was still in discussions with India over the possible purchase of additional twin-engine Rafale fighter jets, on top of the 36 ones India ordered in 2016.
Eric Trappier told Reuters that a separate tender by India for a single-engine fighter jet was independent of the Rafale order and would not impact the negotiations.
"These are different projects," Trappier said on the sidelines of a defence forum in the southern French city of Toulon. "We're talking about additional jets. Nothing is decided, but we're not going to stop at 36."
"We're talking about additional jets. Nothing is decided, but we're not going to stop at 36."

 

[#hydra#]

So many options from gripen ,16,18,mig,su30mki,su35& Rafale,. But no purchases so far. Pathetic....

 

[Taygibay]

Huh ... sorry Kaykay but it's already been posted :
Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions [Thread 2]
_ and further posts with variants.

In the basic consolidated thread for the India Raffy deal
which makes the news timeline possible?

Have a great day, mate, Tay.

 

[Joe Shearer]

So many options from gripen ,16,18,mig,su30mki,su35& Rafale,. But no purchases so far. Pathetic....

In fact, we have no options. We have enormous targets to meet, in the basic needs of our citizens, and in improving the conditions in which we live. Our defence expenditure is forced on us by a hostile neighbourhood, and by the need to preserve our democratic way of life against the hostility and ill-will of these neighbours. This is a forced expense, and every naya paisa saved is useful. Let us not be cavalier about expenditure, other than essential expenditure on food, clothing and housing, on health care and education, on building facilities and infrastructure needed for creation of 13 million jobs a year.

 

[padamchen]

In fact, we have no options. We have enormous targets to meet, in the basic needs of our citizens, and in improving the conditions in which we live. Our defence expenditure is forced on us by a hostile neighbourhood, and by the need to preserve our democratic way of life against the hostility and ill-will of these neighbours. This is a forced expense, and every naya paisa saved is useful. Let us not be cavalier about expenditure, other than essential expenditure on food, clothing and housing, on health care and education, on building facilities and infrastructure needed for creation of 13 million jobs a year.

Why cant we build the damn things ourselves?

A good tank, a good plane, a good ship, a good submarine, a god helicopter, a good artillery gun, dammit, a good rifle!

You should see how an infantry colonel biking/cycling friend of mine is crying about the last one ...

Surely these are not huge targets for a country that has such a sophisticated space and missile program, supercomputers, technical expertise, and huge knowledge base?

Cheers, Doc

 

[Joe Shearer]

Why cant we build the damn things ourselves?

A good tank, a good plane, a good ship, a good submarine, a god helicopter, a good artillery gun, dammit, a good rifle!

You should see how an infantry colonel biking/cycling friend of mine is crying about the last one ...

Surely these are not huge targets for a country that has such a sophisticated space and missile program, supercomputers, technical expertise, and huge knowledge base?

Cheers, Doc

We can, and have built each of the items you named, except, incredibly, the last. The Ichhapore rifles are lemons. As for the rest, there is a superb tank design, which the Army is scared to accept, and to build which we do not have the know-how or the will-power; we have an excellent plane, that, again, cannot be productionised in a hurry, because several parts were made to order by hand for the prototypes and have to be standardised and farmed out for mass production; we are making some outstanding submarines; we have a first rank helicopter, which is not only an excellent utility machine, but is capable of conversion into a low-cost entry level attack helicopter; we have just started working on building tubed artillery, and already have a great deal of work done on tubeless, having produced those in numbers; now to get that damn' rifle.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

It is well known that Rafale is an option for the Indian Navy.
The CEO does not say Dassault is in Contact with India for the Air Force.

 

[padamchen]

We can, and have built each of the items you named, except, incredibly, the last. The Ichhapore rifles are lemons. As for the rest, there is a superb tank design, which the Army is scared to accept, and to build which we do not have the know-how or the will-power; we have an excellent plane, that, again, cannot be productionised in a hurry, because several parts were made to order by hand for the prototypes and have to be standardised and farmed out for mass production; we are making some outstanding submarines; we have a first rank helicopter, which is not only an excellent utility machine, but is capable of conversion into a low-cost entry level attack helicopter; we have just started working on building tubed artillery, and already have a great deal of work done on tubeless, having produced those in numbers; now to get that damn' rifle.

Why cant we just shamelessly ask the Israelis to help us with that?

They make A grade guns. There is a HUGE underground for Israeli hand guns in the country already flourishing.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Why cant we just shamelessly ask the Israelis to help us with that?

They make A grade guns. There is a HUGE underground for Israeli hand guns in the country already flourishing.

Cheers, Doc

You should have done Engineering instead of Medicine

The fact is that Technologically we have a long way to Go

and before we are able to catch up ; technology moves further ahead

But Today we are in a Better place then we were TEN years ago

So TEN years from now ; we would be in a much better position

 

[padamchen]

You should have done Engineering instead of Medicine

Why?

Cheers, Doc

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Why?

Cheers, Doc

You would have understood and appreciated the Technological Gap that we need to overcome

 

[padamchen]

You would have understood and appreciated the Technological Gap that we need to overcome

I don't need to be an engineer for that man.

A doc knows a lot more engineering (especially one like me who's a gear-head) than an engineer understands medicine.

I know gears. Engines. Mechanicals. Work on my own bikes. And cycles. And build and fix stuff at home.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Stephen Cohen]

I don't need to be an engineer for that man.

A doc knows a lot more engineering (especially one like me who's a gear-head) than an engineer understands medicine.

Cheers, Doc

Then you should not be lamenting the fact that we have to import High tech weapons
AT least we are BUYING them with our OWN MONEY

 

[Joe Shearer]

Why cant we just shamelessly ask the Israelis to help us with that?

They make A grade guns. There is a HUGE underground for Israeli hand guns in the country already flourishing.

Cheers, Doc

You're talking about the rifle. You have a point. Or the Belgians. Or the French. Or the Germans. Or the Australians. Heck, anybody but the Russians; they must still be mad at us for trying to rip off the Kalashnikov and effing that rip-off really conclusively.

Say what you will about the Chinese, they handle their screwdrivers in the manner born.

 

[lastone]

Manor born. Still does not fit.

You're talking about the rifle. You have a point. Or the Belgians. Or the French. Or the Germans. Or the Australians. Heck, anybody but the Russians; they must still be mad at us for trying to rip off the Kalashnikov and effing that rip-off really conclusively.

Say what you will about the Chinese, they handle their screwdrivers in the manner born.

I had a colleague , a elect engineer who left the govt run defence industry to join the pvr sector.
As per him the equipment was used maybe for a month in a year and rest of the time it was struggle to pass the day.