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Cousin Marriages Could Die Out For British Muslim Pakistanis

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I'm a third gen British Pakistani, I have seen first hand how our generation has evolved, we're much more liberal than our conservative parents or grandparents, since our way of life is more synchronized with Britain then Pakistan, heck my 'Urdu' is elementary at best and I cannot read or write, the transition of the Pakistani culture is heading in a downward spiral.. along with its 'values' where the respect for parents is diminishing more so now with the newer generation as they become more rebellious. Divorce back in the days was like a taboo, you just had to suck it up and live in your toxic disgruntled relationship, now its become the norm as there are like 1-2 divorce per a household.

As for the case for reducing cousin marriages especially closer relatives I'm all for it, I held this opinion more than a decade ago.. playing lottery with genetics is a potential life changing situation for the child and the parents is just not worth it. Also correct me if I'm wrong, I heard it is Islamically advised to marry someone from the outside, and only marry a close cousin if its the last resort.
 
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Cousin marriages can't be encouraged, but the risks are indeed often exaggerated.

Scientifically speaking, this is a tricky subject. Considering a truly perfect sample of humans, which doesn't exist, cousin/sibling marriages are the best bet for them genetically.

But at a threshold, this positive reinforcement will disastrously flip and a distant marriage becomes favourable. But is a distant marriage always favourable? Of course not. Sometimes even a risky cousin can be better than a distant option.

Keep in mind that the statistics that are often used to discourage cousin marriages can't be uniformly applied to all families and tribes and castes.

The only way is to do genetic analysis beforehand, which will throw up even more dilemmas on ethics.
 
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You marry your cousin or you marry outside, being husband and wife has totally different dynamics as the expectations in the relationship are so different. I m quite surprised when I hear marrying a cousin is easy as you know that person and family. Even if that is the case, when a woman moves into the home of her husband, cousin or not, she is considered daughter in law. I have seen even in my own near family, how cousins have been mistreated even though they had come to their mamoo or chacha's home.
 
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Bhaiyaa bolte bolte ek din Bhaiyaa sayian mai badal jaye tu weird to ho ga hi ..
Personally I was not in favor of doing marriages in close families , already got 2 Proposal ( one from Phuppo in Canada and Mamu in America ) but I refused in both , some of the cousins in my family are married but thank God haven't seen any defect Kids so far, but heard stories from distant relatives . IF anyone wants to do it i have nothing against it but personally I will not encourage it .

They are ryt. U shud not marry Non Muslims firstly and liberals secondly. What if u married a British girl with liberal norms and your children come to being Homos? What will u do now? Burn in Fire? @OsmanAli98

Homo kids has nothing to do with marrying a Liberal girl , Homosexuality is not Embalmed in your DNA that transcend from Generations . I have seen , met , be friends with , talked to Many Gay and Lesbian in various universities here in Karachi , and knows girls who despite having boyfriend , making out with other girls in bathroom .
Only Allah has Power over granting someone hell or Heaven, Homosexuality (ACT) yes its forbidden but so is murder, Suicide, Drinking , Bribe , Adultery , Rape , Gamble , Interest etc .. and none of them are small Sins in Islam , they are mostly from Higher category .
 
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Bhaiyaa bolte bolte ek din Bhaiyaa sayian mai badal jaye tu weird to ho ga hi ..
Personally I was not in favor of doing marriages in close families , already got 2 Proposal ( one from Phuppo in US and Mamu in America ) but I refused in both , some of the cousins in my family are married but thank God haven't seen any defect Kids so far, but heard stories from distant relatives . IF anyone wants to do it i have nothing against it but personally I will not encourage it .



Homo kids has nothing to do with marrying a Liberal girl , Homosexuality is not Embalmed in your DNA that transcend from Generations . I have seen , met , be friends with , talked to Many Gay and Lesbian in various universities here in Karachi , and knows girls who despite having boyfriend , making out with other girls in bathroom .
Only Allah has Power over granting someone hell or Heaven, Homosexuality (ACT) yes its forbidden but so is murder, Suicide, Drinking , Bribe , Adultery , Rape , Gamble , Interest etc .. and none of them are small Sins in Islam , they are mostly from Higher category .
But liberal girl wont stop or guide thier children against homosexuality. Thats a difference. BTW are you a journalist?
 
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But liberal girl wont stop or guide thier children against homosexuality. Thats a difference. BTW are you a journalist?

Stop or not , if your kid wants to go that path you can not stop him or her , how many EX- Muslims you see in UK and USA or EU ? just Google or Youtube it and you will understand , I am not saying that their reasons are valid to leave Islam, mostly are emotional and Subjective , none of them have theological Reasons to leave Islam, but There are Homo's , Drinkers , Gamblers , Rapers , Murderers and Sood Khor born in conservative families, where we believed that their upbringing would have been according to Islam .

And no I am not a Journalists but someone who is married to a Liberal , White , Openly Supportive of LGBT , Feminism , and claimed Bisexual Girl for last (almost) 3 years . She is now a Muslim , and learning Islamic ways of Prayers, If my kids walk any of the wrong paths I wont be blaming my wife/or her ways to raised them cause we already decided how we want to raised them . One more thing, once a kid is 18+ he/she is not a responsibility of his/her parents , you have to follow your own path, understand your purpose , religion etc .. If one become homo or any other sinful person its on their heads not their parents, if they become murderers , raper's or criminal they alone have to answer to Allah and Law of the country not the parents, and if they become pious , kind , honest and good human beings than their good deeds will be count only for them .
 
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Stop or not , if your kid wants to go that path you can not stop him or her , how many EX- Muslims you see in UK and USA or EU ? just Google or Youtube it and you will understand , I am not saying that their reasons are valid to leave Islam, mostly are emotional and Subjective , none of them have theological Reasons to leave Islam, but There are Homo's , Drinkers , Gamblers , Rapers , Murderers and Sood Khor born in conservative families, where we believed that their upbringing would have been according to Islam .

And no I am not a Journalists but someone who is married to a Liberal , White , Openly Supportive of LGBT , Feminism , and claimed Bisexual Girl for last (almost) 3 years . She is now a Muslim , and learning Islamic ways of Prayers, If my kids walk any of the wrong paths I wont be blaming my wife/or her ways to raised them cause we already decided how we want to raised them . One more thing, once a kid is 18+ he/she is not a responsibility of his/her parents , you have to follow your own path, understand your purpose , religion etc .. If one become homo or any other sinful person its on their heads not their parents, if they become murderers , raper's or criminal they alone have to answer to Allah and Law of the country not the parents, and if they become pious , kind , honest and good human beings than their good deeds will be count only for them .
BTW does yr wife knows about Islamic Perspective of Homosexuality?
 
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Cousin marriage is so weird lol and what's this thing with girl knowing you and your family? That would be a boring marriage life. A couple learning about each other and sharing sad, happy or funny stories with each other is way more beautiful then your cousin knowing every detail about you, it keeps things a little interesting. Imagine one day you're playing with your cousin sister and 15 years down the line your parents want you to share the same bed as her. That is disgusting and frankly an outdated backward Arab practice that came to our region from Arabs.

I'm a third gen British Pakistani, I have seen first hand how our generation has evolved, we're much more liberal than our conservative parents or grandparents, since our way of life is more synchronized with Britain then Pakistan, heck my 'Urdu' is elementary at best and I cannot read or write, the transition of the Pakistani culture is heading in a downward spiral.. along with its 'values' where the respect for parents is diminishing more so now with the newer generation as they become more rebellious. Divorce back in the days was like a taboo, you just had to suck it up and live in your toxic disgruntled relationship, now its become the norm as there are like 1-2 divorce per a household.

As for the case for reducing cousin marriages especially closer relatives I'm all for it, I held this opinion more than a decade ago.. playing lottery with genetics is a potential life changing situation for the child and the parents is just not worth it. Also correct me if I'm wrong, I heard it is Islamically advised to marry someone from the outside, and only marry a close cousin if its the last resort.

Cousin marriage is encouraged in Islam, even the Prophet married his cousin and ex wife of his adopted son, he then married his daughter to his nephew.
 
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