confession on an ex pseudo secular

[karim.chota]

"When I landed in Mumbai 2003, I was sort of non-practicing Hindu. But as I observed the jihadi bigots and read their books, I discovered the centrality of rituals in a religion if it is to survive.
In 2004, I had refused to give chanda, and criticised the drinking and dancing during 'visarjans', calling it sacrilege and useless noise.
But as I read and read, I realised that these 'drunk dancers' have a big hand in keeping alive not just Hinduism, but even me, as I figured that my types who criticise them would run away at the first cry of jihad. But these 'drunk dancer' would step forward and fight for their faith, and in process save me.

And since at least 2005, I am the most die hard supporter of all our noisy festivals and all the drinking and dancing. I give them chanda in the amounts they never expect, and if I am not at home when they come, I seek them out to pay. In fact as I thought more about it, we idiot Hindus never give chanda to our organisations and nor do we support our political patrons with money or vote, and end up spending huge amounts in taxes and paying out subsidies to parasites who want subsidy for everything, in paying out bribes that become necessary because of break down of law and order brought about by vote bank managers, spending huge amounts on school education because of scarcity of schools brought about by again vote bank manager.

So during any festival season, I will go out and support the mandals, and drink and dance if possible. Rituals like these will save us. As far as noise is concerned, we have always been a noisy people. Noise is life. In Switzerland they jail you if you operate flush in an apartment building after 10 pm. No wonder the Europe is dying. Noise is life. You can feel the rush of adrenaline when the music is at full blast. We must not import idiocies of a dying Civilization.

Apologist mindset has kept us slaves, it's time to liberate ourselves without care for what the world thinks. At least we're not beheading people or burning thousands of them alive calling them heretics.


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[he-man]

@Ravi Nair
Will we both be counted as pseudo secular??

 

[dravidianhero]

"When I landed in Mumbai 2003, I was sort of non-practicing Hindu. But as I observed the jihadi bigots and read their books, I discovered the centrality of rituals in a religion if it is to survive.
In 2004, I had refused to give chanda, and criticised the drinking and dancing during 'visarjans', calling it sacrilege and useless noise.
But as I read and read, I realised that these 'drunk dancers' have a big hand in keeping alive not just Hinduism, but even me, as I figured that my types who criticise them would run away at the first cry of jihad. But these 'drunk dancer' would step forward and fight for their faith, and in process save me.

And since at least 2005, I am the most die hard supporter of all our noisy festivals and all the drinking and dancing. I give them chanda in the amounts they never expect, and if I am not at home when they come, I seek them out to pay. In fact as I thought more about it, we idiot Hindus never give chanda to our organisations and nor do we support our political patrons with money or vote, and end up spending huge amounts in taxes and paying out subsidies to parasites who want subsidy for everything, in paying out bribes that become necessary because of break down of law and order brought about by vote bank managers, spending huge amounts on school education because of scarcity of schools brought about by again vote bank manager.

So during any festival season, I will go out and support the mandals, and drink and dance if possible. Rituals like these will save us. As far as noise is concerned, we have always been a noisy people. Noise is life. In Switzerland they jail you if you operate flush in an apartment building after 10 pm. No wonder the Europe is dying. Noise is life. You can feel the rush of adrenaline when the music is at full blast. We must not import idiocies of a dying Civilization.

Apologist mindset has kept us slaves, it's time to liberate ourselves without care for what the world thinks. At least we're not beheading people or burning thousands of them alive calling them heretics.


Timeline Photos - भारत :An Untold Story | Facebook

No need to encourage rowdies and drunkards in the name of saving religion.vinayak mandaps have always been a place for vulgarity(the programs and dances that are performed) and rogues.Celebration of vinayaka chaviti,holy,diwali and dussera(a festival on which people of my state drink a lot) in public should be banned.

 

[Chronos]

@Ravi Nair
Will we both be counted as pseudo secular??

yes, go jump in front of a train Muslim lover.

 

[he-man]

yes, go jump in front of a train Muslim lover.

just waiting for @Indrani to declare me a pseudo formally

 

[Indrani]

No need to encourage rowdies and drunkards in the name of saving religion.vinayak mandaps have always been a place for vulgarity(the programs and dances that are performed) and rogues.Celebration of vinayaka chaviti,holy,diwali and dussera(a festival on which people of my state drink a lot) in public should be banned.

Yeah they should be banned and you should be shot.

just waiting for @Indrani to declare me a pseudo formally

Cmon you are no threat to anyone. Any cause you espouse will have people running to do the opposite. So declaring you formally or informally makes no difference.

 

[he-man]

Yeah they should be banned and you should be shot.



Cmon you are no threat to anyone. Any cause you espouse will have people running to do the opposite. So declaring you formally or informally makes no difference.

Truth is rarely tolerated by people so i agree i have a very extreme thinking.
But question was am i a pseudo secular??

 

[Indrani]

Truth is rarely tolerated by people so i agree i have a very extreme thinking.
But question was am i a pseudo secular??

Yeah people have less tolerance to jihadis and Talibunnies too....must be because they are so honest.

I have not seen you make any pseudo secular argument yet. @scorpionx wanted India to give citizenship to all Shias and Ahmedis of Pakistan just because the case of providing longer term visas for Hindus and Sikhs from Pakistan was being expedited. Now tell me whether India should throw open its borders to all Shias and Ahmedias and Bangladeshi Muslims. That should determine where you are on the scale of pseudosecularism.

 

[he-man]

No one could be Secular ever. Secularism means separation of Church and State. Secularism is a property of institutions, not individuals.


When people say that they are Secular, it means that they are indicating their non-differential treatment of people on basis of religion.


Well test is very easy.

If you condemn an act irrespective of weather a Muslim did it or a Hindu did it, have same degree of respect/disrespect for a religion/religious practice, you are a Secular, If not then you are religious minded person.

But, If even after being religious minded person, you claim to be secular, or try promote religious ideas while claiming to be secular, you are a pseudo Secular.


Example: If you think it is your creative right to draw Hindu Gods as ISIS terrorist, but you refuse to draw muhammad beheading Jews (he did it and worst) , you are a Pseudo-Secular.

A living example of Psedo-Secular would be Teesta setalvad. She thinks it is perfectly secular behavior by her to draw Hindu gods as ISIS terrorists ( it is not ); making her Pseudo-secular.

At least all the seniors on this forum know how much i hate religion.
On the point of teesta agreed,,,that bitch is stupid and crazy

Yeah people have less tolerance to jihadis and Talibunnies too....must be because they are so honest.

I have not seen you make any pseudo secular argument yet. @scorpionx wanted India to give citizenship to all Shias and Ahmedis of Pakistan just because the case of providing longer term visas for Hindus and Sikhs from Pakistan was being expedited. Now tell me whether India should throw open its borders to all Shias and Ahmedias and Bangladeshi Muslims. That should determine where you are on the scale of pseudosecularism.

Damn i was prepared for the branding and pain of being declared a pseudo................why did u exonerate me.
I mean why did u

 

[utraash]

"When I landed in Mumbai 2003, I was sort of non-practicing Hindu. But as I observed the jihadi bigots and read their books, I discovered the centrality of rituals in a religion if it is to survive.
In 2004, I had refused to give chanda, and criticised the drinking and dancing during 'visarjans', calling it sacrilege and useless noise.
But as I read and read, I realised that these 'drunk dancers' have a big hand in keeping alive not just Hinduism, but even me, as I figured that my types who criticise them would run away at the first cry of jihad. But these 'drunk dancer' would step forward and fight for their faith, and in process save me.

And since at least 2005, I am the most die hard supporter of all our noisy festivals and all the drinking and dancing. I give them chanda in the amounts they never expect, and if I am not at home when they come, I seek them out to pay. In fact as I thought more about it, we idiot Hindus never give chanda to our organisations and nor do we support our political patrons with money or vote, and end up spending huge amounts in taxes and paying out subsidies to parasites who want subsidy for everything, in paying out bribes that become necessary because of break down of law and order brought about by vote bank managers, spending huge amounts on school education because of scarcity of schools brought about by again vote bank manager.

So during any festival season, I will go out and support the mandals, and drink and dance if possible. Rituals like these will save us. As far as noise is concerned, we have always been a noisy people. Noise is life. In Switzerland they jail you if you operate flush in an apartment building after 10 pm. No wonder the Europe is dying. Noise is life. You can feel the rush of adrenaline when the music is at full blast. We must not import idiocies of a dying Civilization.

Apologist mindset has kept us slaves, it's time to liberate ourselves without care for what the world thinks. At least we're not beheading people or burning thousands of them alive calling them heretics.


Timeline Photos - भारत :An Untold Story | Facebook

Festivals are meant to be feel devotion n exercise your rituals n taking oath for following Dharama(Righteous action) not for filling your heart with hatreds..... These goons are bunch of criminals not saviour of Hindus or Hinduism.....

 

[Indrani]

At least all the seniors on this forum know how much i hate religion.
On the point of teesta agreed,,,that bitch is stupid and crazy



Damn i was prepared for the branding and pain of being declared a pseudo................why did u exonerate me.
I mean why did u

As I said you present no threat and are just a person who has brought into Western materialism doctrine, nothing else. Pseudoseculars are a different ballgame entirely.

Festivals are meant to be feel devotion n exercise your rituals n taking oath for following Dharama(Righteous action) not for filling your heart with hatreds..... These goons are bunch of criminals not saviour of Hindus or Hinduism.....

Who said these boys who organize such big programs do not have devotion and are indulging in hate exercise? What gives you authority to say how worship should be performed? That worship constitutes only austerities and no joy and fun?

 

[ranjeet]

@Ravi Nair
Will we both be counted as pseudo secular??

Nah you both are Chinese secular ... your secularism won't last long

"When I landed in Mumbai 2003, I was sort of non-practicing Hindu. But as I observed the jihadi bigots and read their books, I discovered the centrality of rituals in a religion if it is to survive.
In 2004, I had refused to give chanda, and criticised the drinking and dancing during 'visarjans', calling it sacrilege and useless noise.
But as I read and read, I realised that these 'drunk dancers' have a big hand in keeping alive not just Hinduism, but even me, as I figured that my types who criticise them would run away at the first cry of jihad. But these 'drunk dancer' would step forward and fight for their faith, and in process save me.

And since at least 2005, I am the most die hard supporter of all our noisy festivals and all the drinking and dancing. I give them chanda in the amounts they never expect, and if I am not at home when they come, I seek them out to pay. In fact as I thought more about it, we idiot Hindus never give chanda to our organisations and nor do we support our political patrons with money or vote, and end up spending huge amounts in taxes and paying out subsidies to parasites who want subsidy for everything, in paying out bribes that become necessary because of break down of law and order brought about by vote bank managers, spending huge amounts on school education because of scarcity of schools brought about by again vote bank manager.

So during any festival season, I will go out and support the mandals, and drink and dance if possible. Rituals like these will save us. As far as noise is concerned, we have always been a noisy people. Noise is life. In Switzerland they jail you if you operate flush in an apartment building after 10 pm. No wonder the Europe is dying. Noise is life. You can feel the rush of adrenaline when the music is at full blast. We must not import idiocies of a dying Civilization.

Apologist mindset has kept us slaves, it's time to liberate ourselves without care for what the world thinks. At least we're not beheading people or burning thousands of them alive calling them heretics.


Timeline Photos - भारत :An Untold Story | Facebook

Sarcasm?

 

[he-man]

Nah you both are Chinese secular ... your secularism won't last long



Sarcasm?

My pseudo secularism is higher than mountain and deeper than ocean

 

[StormShadow]

"When I landed in Mumbai 2003, I was sort of non-practicing Hindu. But as I observed the jihadi bigots and read their books, I discovered the centrality of rituals in a religion if it is to survive.
In 2004, I had refused to give chanda, and criticised the drinking and dancing during 'visarjans', calling it sacrilege and useless noise.
But as I read and read, I realised that these 'drunk dancers' have a big hand in keeping alive not just Hinduism, but even me, as I figured that my types who criticise them would run away at the first cry of jihad. But these 'drunk dancer' would step forward and fight for their faith, and in process save me.

And since at least 2005, I am the most die hard supporter of all our noisy festivals and all the drinking and dancing. I give them chanda in the amounts they never expect, and if I am not at home when they come, I seek them out to pay. In fact as I thought more about it, we idiot Hindus never give chanda to our organisations and nor do we support our political patrons with money or vote, and end up spending huge amounts in taxes and paying out subsidies to parasites who want subsidy for everything, in paying out bribes that become necessary because of break down of law and order brought about by vote bank managers, spending huge amounts on school education because of scarcity of schools brought about by again vote bank manager.

So during any festival season, I will go out and support the mandals, and drink and dance if possible. Rituals like these will save us. As far as noise is concerned, we have always been a noisy people. Noise is life. In Switzerland they jail you if you operate flush in an apartment building after 10 pm. No wonder the Europe is dying. Noise is life. You can feel the rush of adrenaline when the music is at full blast. We must not import idiocies of a dying Civilization.

Apologist mindset has kept us slaves, it's time to liberate ourselves without care for what the world thinks. At least we're not beheading people or burning thousands of them alive calling them heretics.


Timeline Photos - भारत :An Untold Story | Facebook

Why is it that you always just post news and never involve in the debate?

 

[ranjeet]

My pseudo secularism is higher than mountain and deeper than ocean

does it come with soft loans too??