Complete ceasefire agreed between govt and TTP: Fawad Chaudhry

[Baghial]

sharia laws are coming .........

moments ago. it was still SHIRK -........... LAWS ...........here

and if sharia comes, u wont have 2 pair of jeans...

neither , a crore rupees retirement ..

and generals would have to be in first line of jihad.

no -more ac - rooms..jihad

Someone has personality dis-order, in Europe he was Playboy, but in Pakistan he is **** Madina

the tribe of luut and imran khan,s youth are same,

zardari n sharif, asked for azaam
it came in forum of imran khan

moments ago. it was still SHIRK -........... LAWS ...........here

and if sharia comes, u wont have 2 pair of jeans...

neither , a crore rupees retirement ..

and generals would have to be in first line of jihad.

no -more ac - rooms..jihad




the tribe of luut and imran khan,s youth are same,

zardari n sharif, asked for azaam
it came in forum of imran khan

( azaam)-------- azaab

 

[Meengla]

So the murder of children will be condoned and swept under the rug. For what? A peace treaty that isn’t worth the paper it was written on. Why is Pakistan negotiating with groups like TLP and TTP? From the outside it looks like an admission of defeat and surrender to terrorists.

Not from just the outside, it does look bad from the inside too. But appearances can be deceiving.
I think this bitter pill is the last chance given to the TTP after some inputs from the Afghanistan Taliban. Behave or else! Peace is always made with your enemies. America made it with North Vietnam. The Soviets made with the various Mujahideen factions. America again made with the Afghan Taliban. And countless more examples.
As far as TTP, it is a spent force. TTP had the control of Pakistan's scenic Swat Valley for a few years around 2009. Swat Valley was hell on Earth. Honestly, they would make the Taliban 1996-2001 rule in Afghanistan a tad 'civilized' in comparison. There were plenty of appeasers in Pakistan despite the TTP's horrible crimes. And I remember leading to the Swat operation, some leading figures, spearheaded by no less than the current all-too-peaceful Prime Minister Imran Khan, who kept wanting a 'dialog' with 'our own people' who we are killing for 'America's war'. But the Pakistani military struck in Swat and stuck later in the FATA area. And Pakistani military can strike again. TTP is a spent force and this last concession is given per the understandings between the Pakistan govt and the Afghan Taliban. TTP better behave or...

 

[rAli]

If NRO was the one thing that I thought was deplorable in Mushrraf's era, this ceasefire business with TTP is giving me the same feeling. This will lead to more extremism and give TTP breathing space to go about their business. Don't know what govt is thinking, have they not tried this before. '

 

[Big_bud]

Complete ceasefire agreed between govt and TTP: Fawad Chaudhry - Pakistan - DAWN.COM




Complete ceasefire agreed between govt and TTP: Fawad Chaudhry
Dawn.comPublished November 8, 2021 - Updated 3 minutes ago
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This photo shows Information Minister Fawad Chaudhry. — DawnNewsTV


Information Minister Fawad Chaudhry announced on Monday that a complete ceasefire had been reached between the government and the banned Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), according to state-run Pakistan Television (PTV).
The state broadcaster quoted the minister as saying that talks between the government and the TTP were underway in line with the Constitution and that the ceasefire would be extended keeping in view the progress of the talks.


"The state's sovereignty, national security, peace in relevant areas and social and economic stability will be considered during the talks," he said.

Chaudhry added that the interim Afghan government had facilitated the negotiations.
The minister said progress on the restoration of "complete peace" in these areas of the country was a positive development.
The announcement comes a little over a month after Prime Minister Imran Khan had stated that the government was in talks with some TTP groups, seeking a reconciliation.
"There are different groups which form the TTP and some of them want to talk to our government for peace. So, we are in talks with them. It’s a reconciliation process," the premier had said during an interview with TRT World.
Tentative understanding with TTP
Earlier this month, sources familiar with the development had told Dawn that the government had reached a tentative understanding with the TTP to seek a broader peace agreement to end nearly two decades of militancy in the country.
Read: Truce with TTP — will it be different this time around?
Sources had said the “direct, face-to-face” talks between the two sides being held in Afghanistan’s south-western Khost province for nearly two weeks had resulted in a tentative understanding to declare a countrywide truce, conditional to the release of some TTP foot soldiers as part of confidence-building measures.
It was not immediately clear how many militants in Pakistan’s custody would be allowed to go free, but sources had said the number was not more than two dozen people. “These are foot soldiers, not senior or mid-level commanders,” the sources said. “We are testing the ground. We are cautious,” they had added.
“The truce will come into effect once the prisoners are released,” these sources had said, requesting not to be named because they were not authorised to speak to the media.
“The tentative month-long truce shall be extendable, depending on how these negotiations go forward,” a source had said.
The interior minister of Afghanistan’s Taliban regime, Sirajuddin Haqqani, has been playing a mediating role between Pakistan and the TTP, bringing the two sides under one roof to engage in face-to-face talks, another source had said.
“Talks are being held directly between senior officers and senior TTP leadership. The TTP includes all groups without exception,” the source had added. “There are several proposals on the table and both sides are working to hammer out a workable solution.”
This source had made it clear that no tribal intermediaries were being engaged in talks with the TTP leadership at the moment. “They will be engaged at the appropriate time,” the source maintained.

Good for short term. Bad for long run. If government can bring high quality education & opportunities in that region then peace might be sustainable. Otherwise terrorism will always be a pay check away.

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

So the murder of children will be condoned and swept under the rug. For what? A peace treaty that isn’t worth the paper it was written on.

Why is Pakistan negotiating with groups like TLP and TTP? From the outside it looks like an admission of defeat and surrender to terrorists.

Peace treaties are always used to delay the conflict and prepare for ops.

 

[Adonis]

Not from just the outside, it does look bad from the inside too. But appearances can be deceiving.
I think this bitter pill is the last chance given to the TTP after some inputs from the Afghanistan Taliban. Behave or else! Peace is always made with your enemies. America made it with North Vietnam. The Soviets made with the various Mujahideen factions. America again made with the Afghan Taliban. And countless more examples.
As far as TTP, it is a spent force. TTP had the control of Pakistan's scenic Swat Valley for a few years around 2009. Swat Valley was hell on Earth. Honestly, they would make the Taliban 1996-2001 rule in Afghanistan a tad 'civilized' in comparison. There were plenty of appeasers in Pakistan despite the TTP's horrible crimes. And I remember leading to the Swat operation, some leading figures, spearheaded by no less than the current all-too-peaceful Prime Minister Imran Khan, who kept wanting a 'dialog' with 'our own people' who we are killing for 'America's war'. But the Pakistani military struck in Swat and stuck later in the FATA area. And Pakistani military can strike again. TTP is a spent force and this last concession is given per the understandings between the Pakistan govt and the Afghan Taliban. TTP better behave or...

Oh...so the incapability to handle them is being projected as "Last Chance", "Own people", "Taliban brokered peace" etc...... Why not government/establishment say clearly they just cannot afford any conflict now, cost wise, resource wise and Will wise..... And what is agreed in return?.... Sharia in KPK? Whitelisting of TTP similar to TLP, making it a political party? and no interference in religious matters by Government/Establishment, giving free run to Mullahs?

 

[ziaulislam]

Shameful day. We have betrayed 70,000 pakistani lives today. We have betrayed all LEA’s enforcers who lost their lives fighting this war. We have betrayed the children of Pakistan. We have betrayed the people of FATA and those tribes who supported us. Our government and establishment are coward scums.

It shows again how we are just a banana republic. No debate or vote in parliament and they took this unilateral decision jesay inkay baap ka mulk hai. National action plan? Does anyone even remember that? We have got a strong reality check, maybe we can stop doing bhangra now over afghani stone age dwellers being back in power in afghanistan. I am so disappointed today.

Yes, do colaterals kiled during drones and military op..are they included...especially since that happened just in KPK

 

[Aneeq Rashid]

The problem with pakistan is too many fault lines. Ethnic, religious, various sects and in my opinion no amount of bullets going to solve this problem. Every time Pakistan used force internally it has created more problems. Removing fault lines can only be done through education and socioeconomic development where no one is left behind. In my opinion it is also time to develop Pakistaniat as an identity that define us for we are separate from indian, Persian, afghans, Arabs or turks.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

It will face the same fate as deals in previous years

What I heard, if elements within TTP renegade, then Taliban government in Afghanistan will deal with them using force.

Taliban military action against the TTP is beyond possibility. Any such actions will result in infighting in the Taliban. This statement seems face-saving over the public criticism saying that if TTP was on India/NDS payroll so why they’re having such freedom in Afghanistan now..?????????????????????

ISIS has got ex TTP lot in there and Taliban do not hesitant drilling holes in them.

If elements within TTP back track on this latest ceasefire, Taliban will sort them out by force.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

it used to be good Taliban and bad Taliban, now it's good TTP and bad TTP.

You lot would better know. Hows your "Afghan summit" going?

 

[PakAlp]

Taliban military action against the TTP is beyond possibility. Any such actions will result in infighting in the Taliban. This statement seems face-saving over the public criticism saying that if TTP was on India/NDS payroll so why they’re having such freedom in Afghanistan now..?????????????????????

It's like Haqqanis talking with Haqqanis..............IEA?TTP?IISI

Its fairly obvious TTP and the Taliban are the same, they just have disagreements regarding Pakistan, otherwise since India left Afghanistan, pak army and ISI should be eliminating them one by one to avenge the suffering for the last 20 years, instead what happened is TTP has become more stronger since the Taliban came in to power. As general Musharaff said we need to fight this monster before it finishes us(unquoted).

 

[HAIDER]

The problem with pakistan is too many fault lines. Ethnic, religious, various sects and in my opinion no amount of bullets going to solve this problem. Every time Pakistan used force internally it has created more problems. Removing fault lines can only be done through education and socioeconomic development where no one is left behind. In my opinion it is also time to develop Pakistaniat as an identity that define us for we are separate from indian, Persian, afghans, Arabs or turks.

We have too many foreign players. At every end of the problem, there are foreign elements. But, unfortunately, our own nationals are for sale 24/7. During the first Afghan war and Zia marshall's law gave too much room to religious parties and he used those religious parties to control the masses. Plus, during the turmoil in Afghanistan, US turns its back and close its eyes to use the military regime at that time in Afgan conflict. Now the whole nation is paying the prices of ages of corruption and destroyed institutions.

 

[El Sidd]

Government does not have the mechanism to ensure elements within the government do not spoil any such fragile truce or concrete agreements.

The onus is for the government to make this work.

 

[HalfMoon]

Consolidation of Pashtuns is critical to fight Hindu Indians.

Afghan Taliban, TTP, TLP are all Pakistan's men.

Even Indians are talking to Taliban. That is the power of Pashtuns.

 

[Baghial]

Its fairly obvious TTP and the Taliban are the same, they just have disagreements regarding Pakistan, otherwise since India left Afghanistan, pak army and ISI should be eliminating them one by one to avenge the suffering for the last 20 years, instead what happened is TTP has become more stronger since the Taliban came in to power. As general Musharaff said we need to fight this monster before it finishes us(unquoted).

more like IEA./TTP. AND IS--K ARE all same,