CII wants co-education abolished at the earliest

[Zarvan]

Education is compulsory than means of education are as much important as education itself, the CII cannot simply say that coeducation should not be allowed unless they come up with suggestions and recommendations for educating females separately, merely saying it does not absolve them of their responsibility, but adds to the confusion and problems. And till that time when our women can have their own separate institutes all across Pakistan we need to educate women irrespective of the resources and means available. A helpless widow has to feed her children after demise of her husband and I won't prefer an unskilled uneducated woman being forced to prostitution for sake of survival of her children. Open up and try to look at it and its implications in a society like our's. What in fact we need to teach is self-control and to show respect to the opposite gender, as male hajji are required to while performing Tuwaf.

Off course they issued fatwa against co education not education of women. Women and Men should not study in co education but they should have separate institutes which should offer degrees up to PHD in all fields

No one takes them seriously, they continue to give recommendations, they should be replaced by educated scholars or it should be disbanded !!!

This point of view is shared by all scholars and most of them are well educated and they have points to back from Quran and Sunnah and which clearly is against co education

I am not going to answer or criticize your comment as you completely misunderstood me there my friend, as i said i am more conservative than most here or may be you as well so what you think I said, is what you made yourself believe into that i will be saying , which means my comment says not what you think it says.

Those who oppose the gender based segregation of students, don't be an ostrich so please take your head out of the sand now, the problems we have all seen in co-education we can't deny but are there. which can only be dealt with by implementing segregation, but not like how CII wants, they don't even want to do that, they just want to justify their existence and that's all. if they wanted to implement it, there would have been a full plan of doing so suggested by them.

Well I agree and for that government should build separate institutes for both boys and girls and provide best education and facilities in them

 

[I.R.A]

Off course they issued fatwa against co education not education of women. Women and Men should not study in co education but they should have separate institutes which should offer degrees up to PHD in all fields

You are defending them or are you reasoning within limits of what Islam would permit and what it would strictly dismiss? If this order of separation is so strict why it is not implemented at time of hajj?

I feel like you are defending them. And in my opinion defending a bunch of hypocrites who earn their bread and butter by selling religion is nonsensical.

 

[Zibago]

Naaaaaaaaaaaa ay misra khalisatan tussa asty asa. Koi tussa ko mullah akhda koi kafir

jo marzi loki miki akhan miki kera faruk pena loka ni galaan ta par ena ki ey ta dusi chad kay maray thread tay sarcastic replies keen seriously na takun

No one takes them seriously, they continue to give recommendations, they should be replaced by educated scholars or it should be disbanded !!!

Last part fully agree they are not elected why should they have a role in lawmaking?

 

[Zarvan]

You are defending them or are you reasoning within limits of what Islam would permit and what it would strictly dismiss? If this order of separation is so strict why it is not implemented at time of hajj?

I feel like you are defending them. And in my opinion defending a bunch of hypocrites who earn their bread and butter by selling religion is nonsensical.

Yes it is strict as for Hajj some orders are different in some situations Mr for example in Hajj you combine our prayers which you in other than Hajj is major sin. As for segregation it is strict order of Islam told in Quran and as well as in Hadees several times

 

[I.R.A]

Yes it is strict as for Hajj some orders are different in some situations Mr for example in Hajj you combine our prayers which you in other than Hajj is major sin. As for segregation it is strict order of Islam told in Quran and as well as in Hadees several times

Okay bring me an order that justifies mixing of genders at the time of tuwaf? And why?

Segregation for the sake of oppression is not Islamic, segregation for the sake of reverting back to zamana e jahliat is not Islamic, segregation conveyed in manner like kufar would bury their female infant daughters is not Islamic. Application and interpretation of Quran and Ahadees just to satisfy male dominant urges is not Islamic. Islam cannot allow someone to be kept illiterate because there were no means of educating her separately.

jo marzi loki miki akhan miki kera faruk pena loka ni galaan ta par ena ki ey ta dusi chad kay maray thread tay sarcastic replies keen seriously na takun


Last part fully agree they are not elected why should they have a role in lawmaking?

Samj julsooon yar zara time dy ina ko apay samj julsoon.

 

[Zarvan]

Okay bring me an order that justifies mixing of genders at the time of tuwaf? And why?

Segregation for the sake of oppression is not Islamic, segregation for the sake of reverting back to zamana e jahliat is not Islamic, segregation conveyed in manner like kufar would bury their female infant daughters is not Islamic. Application and interpretation of Quran and Ahadees just to satisfy male dominant urges is not Islamic. Islam cannot allow someone to be kept illiterate because there were no means of educating her separately.



Samj julsooon yar zara time dy ina ko apay samj julsoon.

Segregation is order of Islam and sorry their is no oppression and co education is not allowed. Sorry and other points you raised are nothing but clear ignorance and pathetically hilarious. Sorry if you want to create separate institutions for women you would easily find female teachers in fact thousands of them. Stop coming with hilarious and pathetic points

 

[Zibago]

Okay bring me an order that justifies mixing of genders at the time of tuwaf? And why?

Segregation for the sake of oppression is not Islamic, segregation for the sake of reverting back to zamana e jahliat is not Islamic, segregation conveyed in manner like kufar would bury their female infant daughters is not Islamic. Application and interpretation of Quran and Ahadees just to satisfy male dominant urges is not Islamic. Islam cannot allow someone to be kept illiterate because there were no means of educating her separately.



Samj julsooon yar zara time dy ina ko apay samj julsoon.

Inka sabun slow hay kia

 

[I.R.A]

Segregation is order of Islam and sorry their is no oppression and co education is not allowed. Sorry and other points you raised are nothing but clear ignorance and pathetically hilarious. Sorry if you want to create separate institutions for women you would easily find female teachers in fact thousands of them. Stop coming with hilarious and pathetic points

So you are apologizing and laughing at same time? Where is the order justifying mixing of genders at time of Hajj especially tuwaf? Rigidness and strictness is not how Islam spread, it is the religion full of wisdom and easiness.

Look at the profile of chairman of CII and tell me if he does not know about countless teachers you are referring to, he did not have the time to construct some of these facilities, he did not enjoy the say in government, his party chairman has been contesting elections against a filmstar Mussarat Shaheen and he is telling us coeducation should not be allowed

Maulana Muhammad Khan Sherani
Chairman,
Council of Islamic Ideology
Government of Pakistan ,
Islamabad
Tel (off): 051-9204736,
Fax: 051-9217381,
Mobile : 0333-5233887
E-mail: contact@cii.gov.pk

EDUCATION

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  • Darse Nizami (Religious Education)
  • Mataul Ulum Queta, Meraj ul Uloom Bannu.

POLITICAL CAREER AND DESIGNATIONS

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  • Chairman CII (To Date)
  • Member National Assembly 1 June2013 to date
  • Member National Assembly 1988
  • Member National Assembly 1990
  • Member National Assembly 1997
  • Member National Assembly 2002
  • Member Senate of Pakistan
  • Former Member National Assembly Standing Committee for Special Education.
  • Former Member National Assembly Standing Committee for Religious Affairs.
  • Former Member National Assembly Standing Committee for Shipping and Ports.
  • Former Member National Assembly Standing Committee for State and Frontier Affairs.
  • Former Federal Minister for Religious Affairs.
  • Member Senate Standing Committee for Defense and Defense Production.
  • Member Council of Islamic Ideology 1994-1997
  • Member Council of Islamic Ideology 2009
  • Provincial Ameer JUI Balochistan.
  • Former District Nazim JUI Zoob District.
  • Former Provincial General Secretary JUI Balochistan.

Source :::Council Of Islamic Ideology|||Chairman's Profile:::

Inka sabun slow hay kia

Mummy kehti hain inhay dhoty ja dhoty jao, dhoty jao uuuhhhh, dhoty jao uhhhhhh.

 

[Zarvan]

So you are apologizing and laughing at same time? Where is the order justifying mixing of genders at time of Hajj especially tuwaf? Rigidness and strictness is not how Islam spread, it is the religion full of wisdom and easiness.

Look at the profile of chairman of CII and tell me if he does not know about countless teachers you are referring to, he did not have the time to construct some of these facilities, he did not enjoy the say in government, his party chairman has been contesting elections against a filmstar Mussarat Shaheen and he is telling us coeducation should not be allowed



Source :::Council Of Islamic Ideology|||Chairman's Profile:::



Mummy kehti hain inhay dhoty ja dhoty jao, dhoty jao uuuhhhh, dhoty jao uhhhhhh.

It's is not CII duty to construct things they told you co education is Haram ask your government to build more Colleges and schools and universities for women where they can get best education. As for Musrat Shaheen she is dead and yes Fazlu defeated her every time and She is fighting against him not for him at least know the difference and finally she is dead

 

[I.R.A]

It's is not CII duty to construct things they told you co education is Haram ask your government to build more Colleges and schools and universities for women where they can get best education. As for Musrat Shaheen she is dead and yes Fazlu defeated her every time and She is fighting against him not for him at least know the difference and finally she is dead

إنا لله و إنا إليه راجعون I did not know that she was killed, may ALLAH forgive her and be merciful on her. Ameen.

 

[Zarvan]

إنا لله و إنا إليه راجعون I did not know that she was killed, may ALLAH forgive her and be merciful on her. Ameen.

Ameen

 

[Neutron]

If segregation of men and women is not sin during hajj why it is considered as sin during normal days?
An act of sin cannot be allowed in Holy kabba.
Application and interpretation of Islam to satisfy the man dominant urges is un islamic.

 

[I.R.A]

If segregation of men and women is not sin during hajj why it is considered as sin during normal days?
An act of sin cannot be allowed in Holy kabba.
Application and interpretation of Islam to satisfy the man dominant urges is un islamic.

Segregation is order of Islam and sorry their is no oppression and co education is not allowed. Sorry and other points you raised are nothing but clear ignorance and pathetically hilarious. Sorry if you want to create separate institutions for women you would easily find female teachers in fact thousands of them. Stop coming with hilarious and pathetic points

 

[Zarvan]

If segregation of men and women is not sin during hajj why it is considered as sin during normal days?
An act of sin cannot be allowed in Holy kabba.
Application and interpretation of Islam to satisfy the man dominant urges is un islamic.

Sorry it is not allowed Mr not even close to be allowed o really combining Salah is allowed during Hajj but a major sin if you do it other than Hajj segregation is strict order of Islam if you don't do it than don't cry on rising cases of crimes related to this

 

[I.R.A]

Sorry it is not allowed Mr not even close to be allowed o really combining Salah is allowed during Hajj but a major sin if you do it other than Hajj segregation is strict order of Islam if you don't do it than don't cry on rising cases of crimes related to this

My last try.

Why mixing of genders is allowed during hajj time? Logic?