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CHINESE SCIENTISTS COLLECT DNA FROM SMART PEOPLE TO ENGINEER GENIUS BABIES !

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BGI Shenzhen hopes to increase every generation's intelligence by five to 15 IQ points

Scientists from Beijing Genomics Institute (BGI) have collected DNA from smart people in order to engineer genius babies.

Vice reports BGI scientists collected samples from 2,000 of the world’s smartest people to sequence their entire genomes in order to identify the alleles that determine human intelligence.

BGI is one of the world’s genome sequencing centres as well as being the biggest in China. The centre also works with plant genetics and animal genetics.

If successful, embryo screening will allow parents to select their brightest zygote. This could potentially increase every generation’s intelligence by five to 15 IQ points.

Evolutionary psychologist and lecture at NYU, Geoffrey Miller contributed his DNA to the project and spoke to Vice about the program.

Miller says the screening process of the DNA selected for the program comes mainly from people of Chinese and European descent. “[The centre is] basically recruiting through a scientific conference, through word of mouth,” said Miller. “You have to provide some evidence that you’re as smart as you say you are. You have to send your complete CV, publications you’ve produced, standardized-test scores, where you went to college… stuff like that.”

Explaining the process, Miller said, “Any given couple could potentially have several eggs fertilized in the lab with the dad’s sperm and the mom’s eggs. Then you can test multiple embryos and analyze which one’s going to be the smartest. That kid would belong to that couple as if they had it naturally, but it would be the smartest a couple would be able to produce if they had 100 kids. It’s not genetic engineering or adding new genes, it’s the genes that couples already have.”

This means that through the coming generations, scientists will be able to multiply the population’s intelligence. Even if it only boosts the average kid by five IQ points, that’s a huge difference in terms of economic productivity, the competitiveness of the country, how many patents they get, how their businesses are run, and how innovative their economy is.”

Of course, this could potentially open the door to genetic engineering in the future, but Miller says this would take more time to make practical.

According to Miller, use of the technology to do embryo analysis could be implemented on a large scale could take just a few years, depending on how motivated the scientists are.

He also adds that this process could expand into other characteristics, which he argues is actually easier to do. “Almost any trait other than intelligence would be easier to do. We know that intelligence depends on lots of genes while physical traits—like hair or eye color—only depend on a few genes. Things like body shape would be easier to do, physical attractiveness would be pretty complicated, personality traits might be a little simpler than intelligence—how hard working somebody is, how impulsive, how politically liberal or conservative they are would be easier. How religious you are—that’s definitely influenced by genes to some degree.”

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Compared to western research in genetics, China is far ahead according to Miller. He claims that China is collecting data on a much larger scale than the west and is capable of transforming scientific findings into government policy.

Miller also says that there is more of a moral boundary preventing the west from exploring this technology. “We have ideological biases that say, “Well, this could be troubling, we shouldn’t be meddling with nature, we shouldn’t be meddling with God.” I just attended a debate in New York a few weeks ago about whether or not we should outlaw genetic engineering in babies and the audience was pretty split. In China, 95 percent of an audience would say, “Obviously you should make babies genetically healthier, happier, and brighter!” There’s a big cultural difference.”

http://www.weareresonate.com/2017/0...lect-dna-smart-people-engineer-genius-babies/


Chinese people IQ Average today is 105, One of the highest in the world.
https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country
If they success and can increase their average IQ 15 points, that's will make China have Genius Generation in the near term with average IQ of 120 :coffee:

Welcome to the New World ! :yahoo:

@SOUTHie @Hellraiser007 @madokafc @katarabhumi
 
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this is next level eugenics,rather have them trying to eliminate genetic diseases instead of worthless endeavours such as smarter babies
 
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If 105 is not enough for Chinese, then what should be done with SPers of 82?
 
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What is the Chinese obsession with IQ?? The Chinese membership on PDF also displays it.

I dropped out of college and think of myself as reasonably intelligent and educated but my seed would not be considered in this program I suppose.

By the way, does this thread remind anyone of the film 'Gattaca'??
 
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CHINESE SCIENTISTS COLLECT DNA FROM SMART PEOPLE TO ENGINEER GENIUS BABIES !

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BGI Shenzhen hopes to increase every generation's intelligence by five to 15 IQ points

Scientists from Beijing Genomics Institute (BGI) have collected DNA from smart people in order to engineer genius babies.

Vice reports BGI scientists collected samples from 2,000 of the world’s smartest people to sequence their entire genomes in order to identify the alleles that determine human intelligence.

BGI is one of the world’s genome sequencing centres as well as being the biggest in China. The centre also works with plant genetics and animal genetics.

If successful, embryo screening will allow parents to select their brightest zygote. This could potentially increase every generation’s intelligence by five to 15 IQ points.

Evolutionary psychologist and lecture at NYU, Geoffrey Miller contributed his DNA to the project and spoke to Vice about the program.

Miller says the screening process of the DNA selected for the program comes mainly from people of Chinese and European descent. “[The centre is] basically recruiting through a scientific conference, through word of mouth,” said Miller. “You have to provide some evidence that you’re as smart as you say you are. You have to send your complete CV, publications you’ve produced, standardized-test scores, where you went to college… stuff like that.”

Explaining the process, Miller said, “Any given couple could potentially have several eggs fertilized in the lab with the dad’s sperm and the mom’s eggs. Then you can test multiple embryos and analyze which one’s going to be the smartest. That kid would belong to that couple as if they had it naturally, but it would be the smartest a couple would be able to produce if they had 100 kids. It’s not genetic engineering or adding new genes, it’s the genes that couples already have.”

This means that through the coming generations, scientists will be able to multiply the population’s intelligence. Even if it only boosts the average kid by five IQ points, that’s a huge difference in terms of economic productivity, the competitiveness of the country, how many patents they get, how their businesses are run, and how innovative their economy is.”

Of course, this could potentially open the door to genetic engineering in the future, but Miller says this would take more time to make practical.

According to Miller, use of the technology to do embryo analysis could be implemented on a large scale could take just a few years, depending on how motivated the scientists are.

He also adds that this process could expand into other characteristics, which he argues is actually easier to do. “Almost any trait other than intelligence would be easier to do. We know that intelligence depends on lots of genes while physical traits—like hair or eye color—only depend on a few genes. Things like body shape would be easier to do, physical attractiveness would be pretty complicated, personality traits might be a little simpler than intelligence—how hard working somebody is, how impulsive, how politically liberal or conservative they are would be easier. How religious you are—that’s definitely influenced by genes to some degree.”

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Compared to western research in genetics, China is far ahead according to Miller. He claims that China is collecting data on a much larger scale than the west and is capable of transforming scientific findings into government policy.

Miller also says that there is more of a moral boundary preventing the west from exploring this technology. “We have ideological biases that say, “Well, this could be troubling, we shouldn’t be meddling with nature, we shouldn’t be meddling with God.” I just attended a debate in New York a few weeks ago about whether or not we should outlaw genetic engineering in babies and the audience was pretty split. In China, 95 percent of an audience would say, “Obviously you should make babies genetically healthier, happier, and brighter!” There’s a big cultural difference.”

http://www.weareresonate.com/2017/0...lect-dna-smart-people-engineer-genius-babies/


Chinese people IQ Average today is 105, One of the highest in the world.
https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country
If they success and can increase their average IQ 15 points, that's will make China have Genius Generation in the near term with average IQ of 120 :coffee:

Welcome to the New World ! :yahoo:

@SOUTHie @Hellraiser007 @madokafc @katarabhumi




Agree with the above policy. If we want nations, cultures and races to become more advanced and progress, eugenics is a must. Inferior, low iq and unproductive people need to be passively eliminated.
 
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What is the Chinese obsession with IQ?? The Chinese membership on PDF also displays it.

I dropped out of college and think of myself as reasonably intelligent and educated but my seed would not be considered in this program I suppose.

By the way, does this thread remind anyone of the film 'Gattaca'??

Your post hints of low iq.
 
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What is the Chinese obsession with IQ?? The Chinese membership on PDF also displays it.

I dropped out of college and think of myself as reasonably intelligent and educated but my seed would not be considered in this program I suppose.

By the way, does this thread remind anyone of the film 'Gattaca'.
Over the thousands of years of history China had a hyper competitive environment within a certain segment of the elite population, now the circle has expanded to a greater pool of population. It produced this culture of always wanting to one up each other. Good for progress but not necessarily a relaxing place to live.

Chinese also have this notion that people could change anything and nothing is ultimately holy, there is no exception, the only question is resources and technology. It may seem disturbing to some people from the West but Chinese very much believe in social and environmental engineering. This is the by-product of the yellow river civilization, where Chinese had to engineer its society and environment to even survive, so they are quite comfortable with change.

China is also very elitist when it comes to intelligence, smart people get revered while dumb people get shafted even by the less intelligent. The American stereotype in pop culture is the dumb jock bullying the smart nerd but in China its the opposite, the dumb person gets mocked and bullied by the intelligent especially if they are unintelligent and arrogant. Intelligence is not strictly interpreted as high IQ or good grades in China although its important. Entrepreneurial, artistic, poetic people are just as respected. People who can progress society in anyway are seen as intelligent and will be respected.

Some people get quite defensive about eugenics but in reality humans and all organisms practice it. Selection of a mating partner based on traits is the very definition of eugenics. People look for a kind, smart, hardworking, attractive, funny person to reproduce with in hopes that their offspring will be similar even if its not a conscious decision. The question is whether genetics has a strong influence on those characteristics, evidence shows to some degree yes. In addition I believe it is wrong to advocate for eliminating individuals but society should promote intelligence as a policy.

The population with the highest IQ is actually Ashkenazi Jews with an average of 110-115. If you want to be specific there are variations in China due to nutrition and historical attraction of intelligent population from other parts of the country. Genetically there isn't that much difference within Han Chinese but some places tend to attract intelligent people historically and some places tend to be net exporters and have a hard time attracting talent.

This is a map of IQ of 8-10 year old children conducted in 2005. National average had improved slightly since then due to better nutrition.

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Yes, I agree there is a particular to attention to IQ in China. Here is an internal document from China documenting IQ of different regions with standard deviations and distribution, its the source document for the above map. The document shows authorities which particular region is in need of better nutrition and attention. The most striking component of this document is the IQ of the Bingtuan兵团 with average IQ of 119.5 (26% of population is above 130 IQ). There is some evidence pointing to when two high IQ people with slightly different genetic origins producing even more intelligent and healthy populations, as compared to a genetically stagnant scenario. Bingtuan is a mix of southern and northern Han from every province.
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What is the Chinese obsession with IQ?? The Chinese membership on PDF also displays it.

I dropped out of college and think of myself as reasonably intelligent and educated but my seed would not be considered in this program I suppose.

By the way, does this thread remind anyone of the film 'Gattaca'??


Even if it only boosts the average kid by five IQ points, that’s a huge difference in terms of economic productivity, the competitiveness of the country, how many patents they get, how their businesses are run, and how innovative their economy is.”

http://www.weareresonate.com/2017/0...lect-dna-smart-people-engineer-genius-babies/


This one will answer your question
 
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