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Chinese premier Wen Jiabao calls for more democracy
By Damian Grammaticas
BBC News, Beijing

BBC News - Chinese premier Wen Jiabao calls for more democracy


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China's Premier Wen Jiabao says China must change its system of absolute power and introduce more democracy.

He made the comments at the World Economic Forum meeting of business leaders in the Chinese city of Dalian.

Mr Wen, who is due to retire in just over a year, has spoken several times in recent months about the need for reform.

But his comments are rarely reported in the state-controlled media so most Chinese are unaware of them.

Untrammelled power

For six decades the Communist Party has wielded untrammelled power in China.

Ensuring the party continues to rule unchallenged is the first priority of the government, the courts, the army and the media.

In the past year or so, Mr Wen, number three in the Communist hierarchy, has spoken several times, to carefully chosen audiences, about the need to reform China politically.

This call appears to go further.

He told business leaders that reforming the party and the country's leadership system were "urgent tasks".

Wen Jiabao said the most important task for a ruling party was to act in accordance with the constitution and the law.

"To do this the party must not represent the government, and change the phenomenon of absolute power and excessive concentration of power," he said.

"Thus, the party's and the country's leadership system must be reformed."

Mr Wen spoke about expanding forms of democracy beyond village committees.

"If people can rule a village well, they can manage a county well, even rule a town well," Mr Wen said.

However, he said it was more practical to expand democracy firstly within the Communist party.

Reform credentials

Mr Wen, who is due to retire in just over a year, is thought to be trying to burnish his credentials as a reformer before he steps down.

He may also be trying to nudge China's next generation of leaders towards change.

But he is thought to be out of step with his colleagues on the ruling politburo, and has little chance of bringing about reforms himself at this late stage.

In recent months, the party has feared the revolutions that have toppled dictators in North Africa could spread to China.

As a result, it has rounded up and silenced those, such as the artist, Ai Weiwei, who challenge its absolute power.
 
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absolutely right;)

See, this is a real democracy, where the premier can call for reforms, and not be punished by far right racists.

How many KKK members rioted against civil rights in the 1960's? How many blacks died at the hands of racist whites who resisted reform? That's a deMOCKracy.
 
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Wen Jiabao is a good man. :tup:

But the members here have to realize that "democracy" means two different things in the West and in China.

The democracy that the Chinese leadership is aiming for has very little in common with Western-style multi-party democracies.
 
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"If people can rule a village well, they can manage a county well, even rule a town well," Mr Wen said.

However, he said it was more practical to expand democracy firstly within the Communist party.

Reform credentials

Mr Wen, who is due to retire in just over a year, is thought to be trying to burnish his credentials as a reformer before he steps down.

He may also be trying to nudge China's next generation of leaders towards change.

But he is thought to be out of step with his colleagues on the ruling politburo, and has little chance of bringing about reforms himself at this late stage.

In recent months, the party has feared the revolutions that have toppled dictators in North Africa could spread to China

The article is a pleasant surprise. But the two highlighted sentences stand out in the article!! Perhaps an indicator of the main reasons behind the change. But nevertheless it's a welcome change.
 
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The article is a pleasant surprise. But the two highlighted sentences stand out in the article!! Perhaps an indicator of the main reasons behind the change. But nevertheless it's a welcome change.

Did you also notice that the BBC lied that his statements weren't published?
 
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Did you also notice that the BBC lied that his statements weren't published?
No comments on that. Maybe no one in BBC read the Mandarin article :P. If it's published in China that's pretty good news too.
 
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Wen Jiabao is a good man. :tup:

But the members here have to realize that "democracy" means two different things in the West and in China.

The democracy that the Chinese leadership is aiming for has very little in common with Western-style multi-party democracies.

Chinese expect actions not only voices. Hope Wen is not acting as the best leading actor.
 
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As the head of China's civil service Wen's job is to act, not talk. Under his watch the entire bureaucracy went out of control and his government failed to provide even the most basic of public goods. My father once said Wen should have stepped down after the Sanlu scandal and I agree with him. Can anyone name one major policy initiative he undertook? I can't, except the recent efforts to open the accounting books of government ministries, but that's too little too late.

Wen should take cue from the intense public interests generated by recent appearances of his predecessor Zhu Rongji. People want a premier who has the nerve to make difficult decision and challenge special interests.

I'm becoming increasingly worried because Li Keqiang is looking more and more like a Wen 2.0 and 10 more years of that is going to derail the country. The country's much better served with Wang Qishan as the next premier and Li Keqiang as the NPC chair.
 
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As the head of China's civil service Wen's job is to act, not talk. Under his watch the entire bureaucracy went out of control and his government failed to provide even the most basic of public goods. My father once said Wen should have stepped down after the Sanlu scandal and I agree with him. Can anyone name one major policy initiative he undertook? I can't, except the recent efforts to open the accounting books of government ministries, but that's too little too late.

Wen should take cue from the intense public interests generated by recent appearances of his predecessor Zhu Rongji. People want a premier who has the nerve to make difficult decision and challenge special interests.

I'm becoming increasingly worried because Li Keqiang is looking more and more like a Wen 2.0 and 10 more years of that is going to derail the country. The country's much better served with Wang Qishan as the next premier and Li Keqiang as the NPC chair.

The Premier's job is to maintain political stability by all means necessary. Premier Wen, and his entire government, is skillful at reducing public anger and diverting blame, therefore he's a good premier. As long as there's political stability by any means, everything else solves itself.

As for actual policies, how about eliminating agricultural tax? How about strongly reducing the stigma of rural hukou? How about the GDP quadrupling in 8 years? How about reducing the divide between inland provinces and coastal provinces? Lowering taxes for low income groups? At least he treats low income people, like people, rather than like animals the way Jiang and Zhu treated them.

Wen is also a high IQ person. He had a master's degree in geology, from 1950's. In 1950's, being a high school graduate was considered being an intellectual. He has decades of work experience both as a scientist and as a leader. I think Wen should even get the Nobel Peace Prize.

What does Sanlu have to do with Premier Wen? If Wen was an absolute dictator, maybe you can blame him. Do you know how many scandals occured on Zhu's watch? Why didn't he resign after Lai Changxin escaped to Canada after making 10 billion USD off the government? Why did Zhu's son go to the US to study atmospheric physics, then with no financial experience, suddenly is head of China's largest investment bank?

People say they want "nerve" and "challenge special interests" but that's a lie just like how people say they want "freedom". People actually want to be the "special interests". If thats not possible, they want someone to tell them they're important and policies that directly give them money or reduce taxes.

Hu and Wen are the leaders of the people. Jiang and Zhu control the people, for Wall Street investment bankers and Taiwanese exporters. The future is sealed; after Xi, the inevitable wave is for more and more Hu and Wen style leaders to appear, and less Jiang and Zhu type leaders.
 
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It seems all people are praising Wen Jia Bao especially Tianjin people for he was born here.But I really dislike this guy for he just spoke things anybody can say to please the public without responsibility.
 
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