Chinese general reveals shocking inside story of Sino-Indian border conflict

[S10]

Too much expectations from chinese princlets ... in all out war china will find it hard to keep Tibet ... and wats this east asian kpop if u think majority of Indians even think about 6-7 ladyboys n plastics chirping on TV ... India has that kind of bullywood shit going around from past 70 years haha ... pretty crap I say...
Once India mobilize for war thr is no way even 2 fronts gonna push India much...
Chinese are just too far from thr mainlands in Tibet... majority of India bulk is situated in downhills of Himalayas... pakistan is an afterthought ...
Ur dreams will remain dreams... India is only rising

India rising? I thought you're already SUPAPAWA JAI HIND NUMBA ONE under 54" chest.

In 1990, China and India had similar-sized economies. Three decades later, we're six times larger than you. We are ahead of you in every measurable economic and military metric. That gap is actually growing, not narrowing. Tibet today has better transportation and communication infrastructure than most places in India, where 1/3 of your population is still without working toilets. That means we can quickly mobilize and transport troops as needed without having to forward deploy them. The fact that your population center is situated under the Himalaya foothills means that you present a target-rich environment for us, nothing more. You're the one having to fight uphill, not us.

In case you're wondering what our "ladyboy princelet" soldiers can do:

 

[Tumba]

It's not expectation but realism. Tibet don't have instability at all,the dissidents are all in India,and elsewhere, why would average Tibetans seek breakaway instead of being part of the largest economy ,with living standard multifolds higher than their bretherens across the border? Humans want good living standard,economic prosperity,safety,essenticals,social mobility before political propaganda .
I'm talking about soft power,it might be a lost cause on you ,while you hate china,Indians are the largest consumers of Chinese drama on internet based on actual stats.
Here,I just typed C-drama in ytsearch,clicked on first video and there 99 % of top comment are indians. As Chinese soft power grows,India will lose heart against chinese .
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I am not sure you understood me fully, I don't think India is actively trying to start proxies in Tibet...
still if India sees the need India has 20k trained Tibetan soldiers ready to go back in their homeland and start an insurgency much wider and difficult to be controlled than in Kashmir and north east simply as PLA is not built for mountain warfare and social structure of china nowadays are not fit for numerical superiority specially against when Indian army starts pushing towards Tibet. PLA is mechanized too much basically that means not much useful in mountain warfare basically a disadvantage..
Recently PLA deployed around 250 armor in and around north bank when surrounding areas are well entrenched by Indian military in case of actual conflict an easy kill for man portable anti Tanks this just shows how desperately chinese are trying their psychological angle this could have been effective against smaller nations but against India this is just a laughable strategy, I dont think India right now is interested in pushing for any Tibetan areas and chinese will never risk a all out confrontation against India...

Regarding korean chinese tv/films influence on Indian populace I dont see much interest. Curiosity is natural everyone is interested in seeing things for the first time but the language barrier is just too much even for minute populace to get interested in foreign things... India has just too much shit going on in regional pockets when 100s of local shittywoods popping out every other day.

 

[sur]

Here's my attempt at summarizing this video's subtitles
I may have misunderstood at places. And summary is out of order on purpose.

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China always wanted peace with Indian, even wanted India to join One-Belt-One-Road, but Indians are always looking for excuses to fight China.

China never thinks of India as enemy, but Indians insist that China is its enemy.

Despite being more powerful than India, in all conflicts, China allowed India to "keep some of their great face" (face-saving), so that India won't keep feeling "psychological shadow" (humiliation). But still, Indian "great face" (ego) keeps compelling them to bring trophies from China. China never started a quarrel with India.

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In 1962, India was slowly encroaching and nibbling Chinese land.

Mao was told that Indians think that Chinese are "easy", because China was being like a barking dog who never bites, hence India wasn't relenting its encroachment.

Upon that, Mao decided to fight India's encroachment (retaliated in 1962).

China destroyed 3 Indian brigades. Killed 5000 Indian soldiers.

India didn't expect that & felt "psychological shadow" (humiliation).

Border became stable after that. Until Doklam standoff in 2017, when Indian crossed onto China side, to block construction on a Chinese highway.

In 1962, Indians felt they were under a "psychological shadow" (humiliated) & avenged that humiliation in 2017. On seeing Chinese reluctance (avoidance) to fight, India got bold again.

In Lake Pangong incident, again Indians felt they were under a "psychological shadow" (humiliated).
So Indians wanted to avenge that "psychological shadow" (humiliation).

That's why in Galevan Valley, Indian commander/colonel crossed border & tried to take back some Chinese tents as trophies, thinking that tents were empty, but there were few migrant-workers in those tents.
Fight ensued & Indians beat one worker to death. In return Chinese beat Indians & 20 fell to their deaths, including the colonel/commander.

And there we go again, another "psychological shadow" (humiliation) for India. Now to keep their "great face" (ego), India may do something again.

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Indians dream of surrounding China, but India itself is surrounded by China, Pakistan, Srilanka, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Maldives, and Djibouti military base of China.

Despite China being no threat to the Amrika, just because Amrika's internally exhausted, Amrika wants to surround China via Asia's version of NATO i.e. Japan, Australia, India.

Australia & Japan are peanuts, so no worries. India (the elephant) is the only significant power that the Eagle could count on in Asia's NATO to confront China (the Dragon).

But due to their "great face" (ego), Indians don't want to join One-Road-One-Belt with China, nor do they clearly join Aisa's NATO.

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[Indian Gurkha]

China operates at a different realm than India,it moves at totally different level than the Indian mindset can comprehend,the moment China decides to wage war on India,India will be in blacked out in all spheres,and wouldn't even be able to launch a precise missile. India will be back to stone age.All the warfare electronic system and power grids will fry,hardly any communication and navigation will be helpful ,while Bollywood bravado infused military will try to put up a front despite their hidden fears,China will make quick work with their predetermined precise advanced warfare with tech and machines in the lead unlike body bags of the Indian side,it will be a swift war for total occupation,not some border conflict for the chinese.India will be disintegrated thereupon.

Ohhh yes Mr False flagger....
That's why you see the Chinese going for an agreement in Galwan and running away in Doklam...

The best Chinese can do is launch human wave attacks sending their sissy PLA soldiers as cannon fodder...

 

[SuperStar20]

Here's my attempt at transliterating this video's subtitles
I may have misunderstood at places.

==================

China always wanted peace with Indian, even wanted India to join One-Belt-One-Road, but Indians are always looking for excuses to fight China.

China never thinks of India as enemy, but Indians insist that China is its enemy.

Despite being more powerful than India, in all conflicts, China allowed India to "keep some of their great face" (face-saving), so that India won't keep feeling "psychological shadow" (humiliation). But still, Indian "great face" (ego) keeps compelling them to bring trophies from China. China never started a quarrel with India.

==================

In 1962, India was slowly encroaching and nibbling Chinese land.

Mao was told that Indians think that Chinese are "easy", because China was being like a barking dog who never bites, hence India wasn't relenting its encroachment.

Upon that, Mao decided to fight India's encroachment (retaliated in 1962).

China destroyed 3 Indian brigades. Killed 5000 Indian soldiers.

India didn't expect that & felt "psychological shadow" (humiliation).

Border became stable after that. Until Doklam standoff in 2017, when Indian crossed onto China side, to block construction on a Chinese highway.

In 1962, Indians felt they were under a "psychological shadow" (humiliated) & avenged that humiliation in 2017. On seeing Chinese reluctance (avoidance) to fight, India got bold again.

In Lake Pangong incident, again Indians felt they were under a "psychological shadow" (humiliated).
So Indians wanted to avenge that "psychological shadow" (humiliation).

That's why in Galevan Valley, Indian commander/colonel crossed border & tried to take back some Chinese tents as trophies, thinking that tents were empty, but there were few migrant-workers in those tents.
Fight ensued & Indians beat one worker to death. In return Chinese beat Indians & 20 fell to their deaths, including the colonel/commander.

And there we go again, another "psychological shadow" (humiliation) for India. Now to keep their "great face" (ego), India may do something again.

==================

Indians dream of surrounding China, but India itself is surrounded by China, Pakistan, Srilanka, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Maldives, and Djibouti military base of China.

Despite China being no threat to the Amrika, just because Amrika's internally exhausted, Amrika wants to circle China via Asia's version of NATO i.e. Japan, Australia, India.

Australia & Japan are peanuts, so no worries. India (the elephant) is the only significant power that the Eagle could count on in Asia's NATO to confront China (the Dragon).

But due to their "great face" (ego), Indians don't want to join One-Road-One-Belt with China, nor do they clearly join Aisa's NATO.

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"there were few migrant-workers in those tents.
Fight ensued & Indians beat one worker to death. In return Chinese beat Indians & 20 fell to their deaths, including he colonel/commander."

Galwan class story released by PLA recently. Indian army attacked PLA commander who came for negotiation. Indian army Killed 3, injured 2. No migrant labors.
Either one version is BS.

 

[Leishangthem]

I am not sure you understood me fully, I don't think India is actively trying to start proxies in Tibet...
still if India sees the need India has 20k trained Tibetan soldiers ready to go back in their homeland and start an insurgency much wider and difficult to be controlled than in Kashmir and north east simply as PLA is not built for mountain warfare and social structure of china nowadays are not fit for numerical superiority specially against when Indian army starts pushing towards Tibet. PLA is mechanized too much basically that means not much useful in mountain warfare basically a disadvantage..
Recently PLA deployed around 250 armor in and around north bank when surrounding areas are well entrenched by Indian military in case of actual conflict an easy kill for man portable anti Tanks this just shows how desperately chinese are trying their psychological angle this could have been effective against smaller nations but against India this is just a laughable strategy, I dont think India right now is interested in pushing for any Tibetan areas and chinese will never risk a all out confrontation against India...

Regarding korean chinese tv/films influence on Indian populace I dont see much curiosity is natural everyone is interested in seeing things for the first time but the language barrier is just too much even for minute populace to get interested in foreign things... India has just too much shit going on in regional pockets when 100s of local shittywoods popping out every other day.

Read my comment as just my perception rant,not wish or expectation.
India is not competent nor has the audacity to start any proxy war with China in Tibet. What 20k tibetans are you talking about? do u think they can even set foot in china?or start any form of operation there? lol
Do you think the CIA hasn't tried that for decades even when china was in primitive tech state? In any way ,the tibetan dissidents will be met with greater opposition from the tibetans in china themselves more than anyone else.

... simply as PLA is not built for mountain warfare and social structure of china nowadays are not fit for numerical superiority specially against when Indian army starts pushing towards Tibet. PLA is mechanized too much basically that means not much useful in mountain warfare basically a disadvantage.

Umm... Indians are inherently more of a plain dweller,except for people in north east or ladakh region,compared to chinese,China had conducted a lot more military operations for a much longer in high altitude low temperature situation,through out tibet,northern china. Infact even a large portion of chinese mainland are super mountanious.Chinese are the most mountainous people there is based on geography alone.
It's apparent from how Indian military consistently lose soldiers in siachen and recently in galwan due to poor preparedness and foresight.
I initially only mentioned soft power in relation to NE indians which are now having a more positive effect due to the eastern soft power while they used to suffer from more severe discrimination due to ignorance of mainland Indians that live in their self importance bubble.I visit many educational institutions so I seen how perceptions improved /changed in India among Gen-z .
While the division between north and south Indians has only widened,I never saw any improvement in their interaction but more animosity.

In case of Chinese occupation( likely result in case of war between Indian/china),if China offered huge investment (multi folds that of indian gov) along with security guarantee,after leaving the Union,do you believe all south Indian states will stick to union? I don't see that as realistic.

 

[Tumba]

Ohhh yes Mr False flagger....
That's why you see the Chinese going for an agreement in Galwan and running away in Doklam...

The best Chinese can do is launch human wave attacks sending their sissy PLA soldiers as cannon fodder...

this is not 1962 where PLA did ambush and had 6:1 ratio fit for human wave...
2021 is much different mountains cant be conquered by machines we need strong, dedicated soldiers
..
and the hi himalayas are what 4000+ meters altitude its much more dangerous than afganistan terrain ...
only nation which fields legions of native mountain people in bulk is India ... and these guys will basically be fighting for their homelands...

Ladakhis
Himachalis
Kumaonis
Sikkim
Gurkhas
Arunachal

haha now I see pla is basically fcked lol

Read my comment as just my perception rant,not wish or expectation.
India is not competent nor has the audacity to start any proxy war with China in Tibet. What 20k tibetans are you talking about? do u think they can even set foot in china?or start any form of operation there? lol
Do you think the CIA hasn't tried that for decades even when china was in primitive tech state? In any way ,the tibetan dissidents will be met with greater opposition from the tibetans in china themselves more than anyone else.

haha seems like you never heard of SFF in totality they are closer to 20000 and you are very well mistaken
India is not capable India is basically not interested ...
India Tibet border is just too porous for any effective deployment by either India or china its much more easier to start proxies than in other area anywhere on planet
The day India and china starts all out war these SFF Tibetan will be fighting from inside and massive mountain corps of Indian army pushing towards Tibet ... chinese are ill prepared and just too far from thr mainland
with few supply lines operational ..
India is not interested doesnt mean India is not capable

 

[Tumba]

Umm... Indians are inherently more of a plain dweller,except for people in north east or ladakh region,compared to chinese,China had conducted a lot more military operations for a much longer in high altitude low temperature situation,through out tibet,northern china. Infact even a large portion of chinese mainland are super mountanious.Chinese are the most mountainous people there is based on geography alone.

lol
here this is from where Indian Army draws here strength... mostly mountain folks and include unlisted Gurkhas and SFF Tibetan forces...
these lads basically live there whole life in altitude over 2000 meters beat that

https://twitter.com/x/status/1360831989088100353

basically going by ex servicemen ratios..
Indian Army fields around 400000 native mountain troops ... Tankish soldiers genetically suited to operate and consume oxygen much more efficiently than plain people... much more stamina than plain dwellers..
how many chinese soldiers are natives of mountains where avg altitude is 2000-4000 meters ... hardly any.. Infact not much high altitude areas above 3000 meters are thr where han population live hardly any

 

[arjunk]

lol
here this is from where Indian Army draws here strength... mostly mountain folks and include unlisted Gurkhas and SFF Tibetan forces...
these lads basically live there whole life in altitude over 2000 meters beat that

https://twitter.com/x/status/1360831989088100353

basically going by ex servicemen ratios..
Indian Army fields around 400000 native mountain troops ... Tankish soldiers genetically suited to operate and consume oxygen much more efficiently than plain people... much more stamina than plain dwellers..
how many chinese soldiers are natives of mountains where avg altitude is 2000-4000 meters ... hardly any.. Infact not much high altitude areas above 3000 meters are thr where han population live hardly any

This isn't 300BC, the Chinese can use drones to blow up "native mountain troops"

 

[Leishangthem]

Ohhh yes Mr False flagger....
That's why you see the Chinese going for an agreement in Galwan and running away in Doklam...

The best Chinese can do is launch human wave attacks sending their sissy PLA soldiers as cannon fodder...

US can't drive away China from South China Sea,and here Indian talking about driving out the Chinese ... do you even not realise how absurd you sound?
Tell me who gained more from the agreement? India or China? who ceceded more areas?

lol
here this is from where Indian Army draws here strength... mostly mountain folks and include unlisted Gurkhas and SFF Tibetan forces...
these lads basically live there whole life in altitude over 2000 meters beat that

https://twitter.com/x/status/1360831989088100353

basically going by ex servicemen ratios..
Indian Army fields around 400000 native mountain troops ... Tankish soldiers genetical suited to operate and consume oxygen much more efficiently than plain people... much more stamina than plain dwellers..
how many chinese soldiers are natives of mountains where avg altitude is 2000-4000 meters ... hardly any

I applaud your optimism.But the results are already apparent.
Chinese has superior,training ,preparedness,discipline ,tech,equipment and rectitude,and much more Indian fled by leaving their injured compatriots letting their soldiers die in fear of chinese reprisal.

China is vying to develop top all-weather modern warfare military as stated on their military report they aren't relying on some mountainous folk alone,but playing along China has a load more mountainous people than India. China has whole tibet to pick their army ,while you talk about few tibetan dissidants . Many of Chinese villages from where pla pick their rifle men are in high elevation mountainous villages,with very cool temperature and lower pressure, while,even most of the inhabitants of himachal,Uttarakhand are from plane areas,they don't even count as real mountainous,unless you are like Nepalese sherpa or living in close to subzero temperature in high altitude ,it doesn't really effects physiological traits much. China is much cooler nation and has higher elevation.
Those are just excuses.

 

[Tumba]

This isn't 300BC, the Chinese can use drones to blow up "native mountain troops"

lol drone drones... drones are slow easy to target and destroy and man portable sams and easy kill for any fighters ....
do you think when the Indian mountain corps will be deployed they will be exposed it common sense they will be well entrenched fully protected from these drone drones...
also India also have drone drone lol
Israeli, American and Indian UCAVs... dont see much use against any army equipped with modern SAMs

India has plenty of local and foreign SAMs infact just too many are being acquired

 

[Tumba]

I applaud your optimism.But the results are already apparent.
Chinese has superior,training ,preparedness,discipline ,tech,equipment and rectitude,and much more Indian fled by leaving their injured compatriots letting their soldiers die in fear of chinese reprisal.

China is vying to develop top all-weather modern warfare military as stated on their military report they aren't relying on some mountainous folk alone,but playing along China has a load more mountainous people than India. China has whole tibet to pick their army ,while you talk about few tibetan dissidants . Many of Chinese villages from where pla pick their rifle men are in high elevation mountainous villages,with very cool temperature and lower pressure, while,even most of the inhabitants of himachal,Uttarakhand are from plane areas,they don't even count as real mountainous,unless you are like Nepalese sherpa or living in close to subzero temperature in high altitude ,it doesn't really effects physiological traits much. China is much cooler nation and has higher elevation.
Those are just excuses.

Indian army is deployed in Indo Tibetan border dedicatedly from decades .. PLA just used to patrol with SUVs before few years ... PLA has little or no experience of high altitude warfare or even deployment, siachin is at 6000 meters and India is positioned thr from 3 decades all year around ...
Han mainlands has no himalayas and no such areas like Indian himalayan areas you can simply check out the geographical altitude maps most of Indian himalayan states are situated in areas from 2000 to 6000 meters no such hi altitude areas are present in han mainlands ....
Indian Army has edge in mountain troops and basically fields much more native himalayan ppl basically coz majority of HImayan habitable areas comes under Indian landmass..
and never forget these ppl will be basically fighting for their homelands and never forget the brave SFF native Tibetan populace who will be fighting from inside Tibet all I see PLA are basically fucked doesnt matter how much drone shrones they have ...lol

 

[arjunk]

lol drone drones... drones are slow easy to target and destroy and man portable sams and easy kill for any fighters ....
do you think when the Indian mountain corps will be deployed they will be exposed it common sense they will be well entrenched fully protected from these drone drones...
also India also have drone drone lol
Israeli, American and Indian UCAVs... dont see much use against any army equipped with modern SAMs

India has plenty of local and foreign SAMs infact just too many are being acquired

Most of India's electronics run on Chinese source code. A single click on a certain Chinese computer could render half of India offline. Not to mention their espionage capabilities which can even penetrate the US. The Indian military can't even match Pakistan's EW capabilities, I seriously doubt it can match China's.

 

[Tumba]

Most of India's electronics run on Chinese source code. A single click on a certain Chinese computer could render half of India offline. Not to mention their espionage capabilities which can even penetrate the US. The Indian military can't even match Pakistan's EW capabilities, I seriously doubt it can match China's.

if you are talking about public use unless Android is chinese I dont think so,
and Indian military and Govt has our own OS and strategic chips of weapon and space systems ...
regarding cyber warfare India is much more efficient simply because our private industry has written majority of code for financial and banking sectors of west that includes security check ins also I dont think
ppl are aware how dominant India is in those fields. Cyber security is basically a by product of private industry I rate India pretty high in cyber security domain... basically in Top 10

 

[Dungeness]

this is not 1962 where PLA did ambush and had 6:1 ratio fit for human wave...

From 1962 to 2020, 60 years on, you guys are still using the same old excuse for your humiliation, "outnumbered and ambushed"! You guys never change, so your guys never evolve.

It's a shame if you are defeated;
It's a sin if you don't know why you were defeated.