Chinese comment over US ban on Huawei

[beijingwalker]

Chinese comment over US ban on Huawei

 

[Fawadqasim1]

They should stop buying iPhones and start buying huawei period

 

[UzaySan]

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But when US banned only huawei All chinese folks be like: "OMG thats aginst international laws or something!

 

[CHN Bamboo]

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But when US banned only huawei All chinese folks be like: "OMG thats aginst international laws or something!

The Internet could have been freely restricted and locked.
There is no international law related to the Internet in the world, isn't it?
Implementing protective measures on the Internet was something China had done many years ago. While the WTO's demands on China have been earnestly fulfilled.

But for the United States, which has been calling for "freedom of trade", it is ironic that it has taken the lead in violating freedom of trade.

 

[UzaySan]

The Internet could have been freely restricted and locked.
There is no international law related to the Internet in the world, isn't it?
Implementing protective measures on the Internet was something China had done many years ago.

But for the United States, which has been calling for "freedom of trade", it is ironic that it has taken the lead in violating freedom of trade.

You blocked a lot of Us or non Us companies to access china and now only one of your companies blocked in only one us product(android) and you all lost your minds.

 

[CHN Bamboo]

You blocked a lot of Us or non Us companies to access china and now only one of your companies blocked in only one us product(android) and you all lost your minds.

Trade and the Internet are two different things, sir.
It is not possible to take trade protection measures after joining the WTO.
But it's not in violation of international conventions/laws for us to ban American Internet sites, sir.

And what the US is doing, is against its own spirit of free trade. It has no right to attack other countries' trade protectionism in the future.

 

[kankan326]

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But when US banned only huawei All chinese folks be like: "OMG thats aginst international laws or something!

But China never asked other countries to follow the ban. Several years ago US government shut their market to Huawei. Did you hear any one complained about that? China blocked these internet company out of self defense purpose(Turned out it is right move after google's ban on Huawei). What US did is to kill Chinese high tech companies. Totally different.

 

[gambit]

You blocked a lot of Us or non Us companies to access china and now only one of your companies blocked in only one us product(android) and you all lost your minds.

This is not only about Huawei as a security risk, which it is, but also overall about China's trade practices such as forced partnerships, which China denies yet companies can present evidences, and that such forced partnerships set the opening for IP theft, which China could have been honest and admit non-recognition of such an idea in the first place.

 

[UzaySan]

Trade and the Internet are two different things, sir.
It is not possible to take trade protection measures after joining the WTO.
But it's not in violation of international conventions/laws for us to ban American Internet sites, sir.

Google makes money with internet. And you blocked their access to chinese market. What is the difference?

Chnia prevented these internet company out of self defense purpose

Then its totally safe to say that other countries can ban chinese companies for self defence.

 

[Dungeness]

This is not only about Huawei as a security risk, which it is, but also overall about China's trade practices such as forced partnerships, which China denies yet companies can present evidences, and that such forced partnerships set the opening for IP theft, which China could have been honest and admit non-recognition of such an idea in the first place.

In Indian's term, this is called ToT. You want the sale, you transfer your Tech. You don't like it, just walk away. Nobody point a gun in the head and force anybody to do anything. Don't we call it "give and take"?

As smart as you are, I can't believe you would even buy this feeble BS excuse. What the heck is this "Forced Partnership"? Shotgun Marriage?

 

[UzaySan]

This is not only about Huawei as a security risk, which it is, but also overall about China's trade practices such as forced partnerships, which China denies yet companies can present evidences, and that such forced partnerships set the opening for IP theft, which China could have been honest and admit non-recognition of such an idea in the first place.

I don't know whats behind the scenes. What I'm saying is china blocked a lot of companies. And now they don't have the right to complain about on huawei ban.

 

[kankan326]

Then its totally safe to say that other countries can ban chinese companies for self defence.

Sure. We don't have problem with that. As I said, American government did that several years ago. And we didn't complain. Stopping selling critical products to cut the industry chain is another story. It is not self defense but aggressive move.

 

[CHN Bamboo]

I don't know whats behind the scenes. What I'm saying is china blocked a lot of companies. And now they don't have the right to complain about on huawei ban.

Because the United States has always claimed to be a trade liberal?
Unexpectedly, Mr. America is a trade protectionist indeed.

There are many places around the world where websites from some other countries are banned, which is not illegal. It is free to do such things.
Are there any cyberliberals in the world? If you are not satisfied with China's actions, you can reach an international agreement and let China join. Like WTO.

Google is also hiring engineers in China, so it is not banned from doing business in China. (The only point is that its website can't be opened in China. )

 

[UzaySan]

Because the United States has always claimed to be a trade liberal?
Unexpectedly, Mr. America is a trade protectionist indeed.

There are many places around the world where websites from some other countries are banned, which is not illegal. It is free to do such things.
Are there any cyberliberals in the world? If you are not satisfied with China's actions, you can reach an international agreement and let China join. Like WTO.

Google is also hiring engineers in China, so it is not banned from doing business in China. (The only point is that its website can't be opened in China. )

Google main money source is ads. And Google ad services such as "AdMob" and "AdSense" is blocked in china .
And I dont give a shit about amerika. What I'm saying was and still is you blocked companies to do business in your country and now you have no right to complain

 

[JSCh]

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Riot in Urumqi: The disturbances come after a year of rising tensions between the dominant Han Chinese authorities and the Uighur ethnic minority Photo: REUTERS

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The communist authorities who built the so-called Great Firewall of China raced to stamp out video, images and words posted by internet users about the unrest in Xinjiang, which left at least 140 people dead.

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