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Chinese checkmate - Hindustan Times

China has taken no break to savour the triumph of its coercive diplomacy when it caught India unawares by sneaking troops into Ladakh’s Depsang plateau and then, employing the threat of an extended standoff and escalation, extracted military concessions. Not content with that success,


Beijing is now pushing a frontier accord that, in the name of Himalayan peace and tranquility, would freeze India’s belated, bumbling build-up of border defences and troop levels while preserving China’s capability to strike without warning.
The People’s Liberation Army (PLA) completed the removal of its encampment from Depsang not on May 5, when India said the face-off was over, but on May 7 after Indian troops dismantled a defensive line of bunkers on their side at Chumar, an action that has spawned another concession — suspension of Indian patrolling along that critical borderline.

Earlier on May 4, India received a far-reaching, Chinese-drafted ‘Border Defence Cooperation Agreement’ that, in essence, seeks to keep India at a strategic disadvantage and thus vulnerable to Chinese military preemption.

Beijing is stepping up pressure, lest it gets too late, to stop India from plugging gaps in its border defences. China’s recent incursion forced India to dismantle vantage point fortifications capable of providing early warning of Chinese troop movements, while the draft Border Defence Cooperation Agreement aims to advance broader Chinese interests and ensure that the PLA retains the option to strike at a time and place of its choosing.

An emboldened China believes the Ladakh standoff has so softened India that it can now be inveigled into granting more concessions, especially to make Premier Li Keqiang’s visit a ‘success’.

In the recent episode, Chinese coercion easily trumped Indian diffidence. By merely positioning a single platoon of up to 50 troops across the de facto border, China compelled India — without firing a single shot — to agree to attenuate its border defences at Chumar (the scene of recurrent Chinese intrusion attempts) and to commit to addressing other Chinese concerns in follow-up negotiations.

China had a lot to lose by persisting with the face-off because it would have led to the cancellation of Li’s visit and shone an adverse international spotlight on Chinese territorial aggressiveness with multiple neighbours. It was in India’s interest to raise the diplomatic costs for China so as to deter future military provocations.

Instead of letting China stew for a while after beefing up its forces but without encircling the intruders, India rewarded the aggressor with concessions. It also presented itself in the same light as the aggressor by announcing a simultaneous Indian and Chinese troop pullout from the standoff zone.

While New Delhi wilted under coercive pressure, China incontrovertibly vindicated its raid by paying no diplomatic or economic costs. Yet the corruption-tainted Indian government claims quiet diplomacy made China beat a retreat.

If such is the power of Indian diplomacy, why is India bleeding itself by remaining the world’s largest arms importer? In truth, it was India’s feckless decision to respond only by diplomatic means to a grave military provocation that left it no choice but to publicly play down the incursion and to yield ground.

China’s leverage-pivoted, concessions-mining approach stands in stark contrast with the forbearing Indian diplomacy, now stewarded by Salman Khurshid from his cloud-cuckoo-land perch.

Imagine if Indian soldiers had intruded even one kilometre into Chinese territory: Would the Chinese foreign minister have survived in office by belittling it as a pimple on the ‘beautiful face’ of India-China relations? And would he have subsequently rushed to New Delhi, renouncing the right to “do any post-mortem or apportion blame” and saying he would love to live in India?

Note also the striking contrast between the two countries’ approach to agreements. Whereas India’s legalistic line treats agreements as sacrosanct in letter and spirit, China regards accords as just political tools to advance its interests, including lulling the other party into complacency so as to create new exploitable opportunities.

The 1954 Panchsheel treaty was a classic example: India valued it as heralding a Hindi-Chini bhai bhai era, while China used it as a cover to start encroaching on Indian territories and to solidify its Tibet annexation, paving the way for its 1962 India invasion.

China does not hesitate to renege on a commitment or violate a key pact, whereas India puts up stoically with even an iniquitous agreement like the 1960 Indus Waters Treaty with Pakistan, despite coming under growing water stress.

After exchanging maps of the middle sector with India in 2001, China broke its commitment to also trade maps of the other two sectors to help clarify the entire line of control.

No sooner had the dual 2005 border-peace accords been signed than China began infringing them. Now that its Ladakh incursion has nakedly contravened the 2005 pacts, Beijing’s audacious response is to draft a lopsided Border Defence Cooperation Agreement to supplant all previous accords.

China has a knack of disaggregating any issue into multiple parts and then pursuing a shrewd, quid pro quo diplomacy to each element, often drawing a linkage with even extraneous pieces.

In contrast to India’s itch to settle issues, settlement in Chinese diplomatic chess involves keeping space to possibly unleash leverage by reopening any component part in the future. If India’s China policy remains driven by wishful thinking, the country is likely to invite more nasty surprises that end with similar Indian submission to the aggressor’s demands.

It is past time to inject greater realism and leverage into the policy.
 
Have any of you imagined how differently things could have turned out to be, had USA been there instead of China in such confrontation with India? Would US Marines withdraw from Ladakh the way Chinese border security forces did?

This was why Alexander could think of invading Asia while Chinese could only think of defending themselves. His Y Chromosome made him what he was. You can't defeat the Y Chromosome that is superior to that of yours, no matter how much superior your weapon system is. You can't go against the rule of nature.
 
Chinese checkmate - Hindustan Times

The People’s Liberation Army (PLA) completed the removal of its encampment from Depsang not on May 5, when India said the face-off was over, but on May 7 after Indian troops dismantled a defensive line of bunkers on their side at Chumar, an action that has spawned another concession — suspension of Indian patrolling along that critical borderline.

The Indian government could have ended it sooner by making concessions sooner, rather than letting it stretch to the 3-week point.
 
Ever since this India China border skirmish happened Windjammer is on a roll !!

BTW , HT had this news piece too. Didn't catch your eyes I guess ! :lol:

India, China must shake hands: Li Keqiang to Indian youth delegates


Days before his visit to India, Premier Li Keqiang on Wednesday said China and India were natural partners and linking the markets of the two vast countries will provide impetus to worldwide economic growth.

Li said Asia is expected to become the engine of growth for the world economy and for that "our two countries must shake hands and conduct exchanges so that together we can raise the standing of Asia in the world and truly make the Asian economy an important engine for the world economy."

India, China must shake hands: Li Keqiang to Indian youth delegates - Hindustan Times
 
WTF was that ,coming out of Your A$$ ==;.... Full of Sh$$ Y ,X ,XY .... Y< ? Y = ?

Have any of you imagined how differently things could have turned out to be, had USA been there instead of China in such confrontation with India? Would US Marines withdraw from Ladakh the way Chinese border security forces did?

This was why Alexander could think of invading Asia while Chinese could only think of defending themselves. His Y Chromosome made him what he was. You can't defeat the Y Chromosome that is superior to that of yours, no matter how much superior your weapon system is. You can't go against the rule of nature.
 
India rejects China's demand for notification of patrol time

India rejects China's demand for notification of patrol time
Anirban Bhaumik & Kalyan Ray, May 15, 2013, DHNS:

India has rejected China&#8217;s proposal for having a bilateral arrangement to notify each other in advance before sending troops on patrol along the Line of Actual Control (LAC).


Lol Homo Erectus don't get it, do they?
 
Have any of you imagined how differently things could have turned out to be, had USA been there instead of China in such confrontation with India? Would US Marines withdraw from Ladakh the way Chinese border security forces did?

This was why Alexander could think of invading Asia while Chinese could only think of defending themselves. His Y Chromosome made him what he was. You can't defeat the Y Chromosome that is superior to that of yours, no matter how much superior your weapon system is. You can't go against the rule of nature.

They retreat once they achieved their objective. The US forces would do the same thing. Sounds like to you, as long as foreign troops still have not occupied your house, India is winning all fights. No wonder you keep on boasting that India won the 1962 war.
 
The Indian government could have ended it sooner by making concessions sooner, rather than letting it stretch to the 3-week point.

The Indians tend to portray and play to the home audience about their micro power status but i guess this time it all backfired.


Ever since this India China border skirmish happened Windjammer is on a roll !!

BTW , HT had this news piece too. Didn't catch your eyes I guess ! :lol:

India, China must shake hands: Li Keqiang to Indian youth delegates


Days before his visit to India, Premier Li Keqiang on Wednesday said China and India were natural partners and linking the markets of the two vast countries will provide impetus to worldwide economic growth.

Li said Asia is expected to become the engine of growth for the world economy and for that "our two countries must shake hands and conduct exchanges so that together we can raise the standing of Asia in the world and truly make the Asian economy an important engine for the world economy."

India, China must shake hands: Li Keqiang to Indian youth delegates - Hindustan Times

Lala Ji, what can i say.....suddenly what Chinese say matters more to you than your own Indian sources are pointing out.
 
^^^

Ever since the British introduced pants to Indian, the Indians needed to carry a small device to urinate to avoid wetting their pants.

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So you are using on daily basis, while American Drones killing your people.

There might be a shortage of this device when Americans killed your border guards and invaded Terroristan for OBL raid.
 
as a country that have warfare for thousands years ,chinese know clearly how to launch a war soundly.
that is THE ART OF WAR.
you all may think that abstain from occupied area is fool enough.
but how about to consider the difficulty to defend these areas and the pressure on the logistics system?
Chinese troops could easily take over new delhi but were unable to maintain it due to the backward logistic system at that time.
the timing for starting and ending a war all decided by many factors.
a good general should work out his plan on the basis of learning those factors well.
did indian general have a proper homework in 1962?
i know Chinese general did.
 
China should go for such a frontier accord for the sake of Himalayan peace and tranquility indeed. Its better for China to stop these Indians from building more bunkers and infrastructure than spanking them for any delusional misadventure like in 1962. Indians are inherently aggressive albeit in a stealthy and deceptive mode. Chinese in comparison are too pacifist and is not too active in going for their legitimate territorial claims. This is the time to act for China.
 
China should go for such a frontier accord for the sake of Himalayan peace and tranquility indeed. Its better for China to stop these Indians from building more bunkers and infrastructure than spanking them for any delusional misadventure like in 1962. Indians are inherently aggressive albeit in a stealthy and deceptive mode. Chinese in comparison are too pacifist and is not too active in going for their legitimate territorial claims. This is the time to act for China.

Go and hold the feet of China and cry a river, nothing is going to happen :lol:.

Chinese back tracked and we have just removed a tin shed built on april 18 after the row has started. Indians played well here.
 
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