Chinese aggression is good for India's Defence

[Free Tibet]

Yes, recent Chinese aggression and incursions are good for India.

Only because of this the Politicians and burocrasy is starting to move. Till recently politicians sees china as a friend and says that India should forget 1962 that is past now China have changed for better and they gives the example that our border with China is the most peacefull. They always thinks about Pakistan as a danger and unstable country, Indian politisians was under the impression that Indian Forces even with limited capacity an very well handle Pakistan so no need of military modernisation and improivements. Because of this India suffers in the militery capacities for last 20 yerars.

But "Our Good Friend China" comes to our rescue see

1.) Govt. has alloted tens of thousands of crores for militery modernisation.
2.) Building of infrasture roads, rails, air bases and advance landing ground near borders with night operation capabilties.
3.) Deploymenst of Sukhoi 30 MKI near Chinese border and in Andaman & Nicobar Ilends.
4.) Raising two new montain divisions.
5.) Deplouyment of montain divisions in Nagaland and Uttrakhand.
6.) Air strip in Bhutan and Nepal.
7.) Revivel of ties with old friends like Benglkadesh, Nepal, Mayanmar, Sri Lanka, Maldivs and Medagaskar.

The DRDO will be made answerable missile program will be fast tracked The list goes on and on.... Now China can not surprise us India will be more capable and better prepared.

It is not that India is not economical or militarily capable, its about the need when you have pressed the panic button everything is possible.

If small country like Pakistan can get and boast of some weapons we can sulrely get them. Even more advanse and ultra modern because the whole world is making a beeline before us.

If pakistan can get China at its side India is just have to cross the line and beocme a ally of US.

Rest will be history, its just that India don't want to seen with US, we want to be non aligned but things are changing with the govt's thinking on the issue.



The most importantly General Indian public now showing its sentiments and in a democracy Netas always listens to vote bank (There is no hindu muslim angel in case of china and communists are sidelinened nationwide).

Defence. pk's Chinese member (Like shchinese) who regulerly abuses and provokes Indian is also creating a image about Real Chinese and their thinking. When a Indian faces this type of hostilaty by a chinese here he tells this to tens of others about the real chinse and it is also helping in public perseption about China. Because it is the educated youth and middile class which shapes the publice opinion of nation and it's government.

When recently Rahul Gandhi have said that he is not going to talk about Pakistan even for 5 minutes, because India in his opinion is over obsessed about Pakistan. The reason he syas India belongs to big league of nations and our policimakers always talk about Pakistan..Pakistan..Pakistan. Many fools in India cry for his blood assuming that Rahul is saying to be blind at pakistan or pakistan is not an danger. I'm not saying we should forget pakistan but we should see a bigger picture if India put more focus on China and prepere itself militerly, politically and economically. If you are a prepare for a big country like China you can very easily take care of countries like Pakistan.

Yes, Rahul Gandhi is right it is China's plan to engage and encircle India in South Asia, to stop or slowdown India's growth. So that China grows unchallenged.

Rahul Gandhi may have many right or wrong qualities but he or many young leaders in other parties brings a fresh breeze of air, new ideas and perspectives.

Old people like Vajpayee, Advani, Manmohan Singh, Pranab Mukharjee, Mulyam Singh can not think out of box and shy away from taking risks as says the Bharat Verma Indian militery analists and oldies always want to have a friendship with Pakistan which will never happen...Why because of pakistan internel reasons, ISI, pak army, punjabies, China, US blah..blahh blahh

Hence, it is proived that Chinese agression is good for India thank you China for being a catalyst to make our politicions and burocracy move.

 

[devd]

Yes, recent Chinese aggression and incursions are good for India.

Only because of this the Politicians and burocrasy is starting to move. Till recently politicians sees china as a friend and says that India should forget 1962 that is past now China have changed for better and they gives the example that our border with China is the most peacefull. They always thinks about Pakistan as a danger and unstable country, Indian politisians was under the impression that Indian Forces even with limited capacity an very well handle Pakistan so no need of military modernisation and improivements. Because of this India suffers in the militery capacities for last 20 yerars.

But "Our Good Friend China" comes to our rescue see

1.) Govt. has alloted tens of thousands of crores for militery modernisation.
2.) Building of infrasture roads, rails, air bases and advance landing ground near borders with night operation capabilties.
3.) Deploymenst of Sukhoi 30 MKI near Chinese border and in Andaman & Nicobar Ilends.
4.) Raising two new montain divisions.
5.) Deplouyment of montain divisions in Nagaland and Uttrakhand.
6.) Air strip in Bhutan and Nepal.
7.) Revivel of ties with old friends like Benglkadesh, Nepal, Mayanmar, Sri Lanka, Maldivs and Medagaskar.

The DRDO will be made answerable missile program will be fast tracked The list goes on and on.... Now China can not surprise us India will be more capable and better prepared.

It is not that India is not economical or militarily capable, its about the need when you have pressed the panic button everything is possible.

If small country like Pakistan can get and boast of some weapons we can sulrely get them. Even more advanse and ultra modern because the whole world is making a beeline before us.

If pakistan can get China at its side India is just have to cross the line and beocme a ally of US.

Rest will be history, its just that India don't want to seen with US, we want to be non aligned but things are changing with the govt's thinking on the issue.



The most importantly General Indian public now showing its sentiments and in a democracy Netas always listens to vote bank (There is no hindu muslim angel in case of china and communists are sidelinened nationwide).

Defence. pk's Chinese member (Like shchinese) who regulerly abuses and provokes Indian is also creating a image about Real Chinese and their thinking. When a Indian faces this type of hostilaty by a chinese here he tells this to tens of others about the real chinse and it is also helping in public perseption about China. Because it is the educated youth and middile class which shapes the publice opinion of nation and it's government.

When recently Rahul Gandhi have said that he is not going to talk about Pakistan even for 5 minutes, because India in his opinion is over obsessed about Pakistan. The reason he syas India belongs to big league of nations and our policimakers always talk about Pakistan..Pakistan..Pakistan. Many fools in India cry for his blood assuming that Rahul is saying to be blind at pakistan or pakistan is not an danger. I'm not saying we should forget pakistan but we should see a bigger picture if India put more focus on China and prepere itself militerly, politically and economically. If you are a prepare for a big country like China you can very easily take care of countries like Pakistan.

Yes, Rahul Gandhi is right it is China's plan to engage and encircle India in South Asia, to stop or slowdown India's growth. So that China grows unchallenged.

Rahul Gandhi may have many right or wrong qualities but he or many young leaders in other parties brings a fresh breeze of air, new ideas and perspectives.

Old people like Vajpayee, Advani, Manmohan Singh, Pranab Mukharjee, Mulyam Singh can not think out of box and shy away from taking risks as says the Bharat Verma Indian militery analists and oldies always want to have a friendship with Pakistan which will never happen...Why because of pakistan internel reasons, ISI, pak army, punjabies, China, US blah..blahh blahh

Hence, it is proived that Chinese agression is good for India thank you China for being a catalyst to make our politicions and burocracy move.

Happy days are here again, just to add some more points.

1. WEST is helping India with whole heart offered aircraft carriers, Arrow and pact missile defense system sales.
2. when you run in competition than you do more hard work and its good.

 

[ssheppard]

Excellent perspective:

Great going by Chinese to keep Indian Political Class on toes....they should do more to provoke Indian Defense forces to pressurize government Of India to speed up defense procurements.....

 

[gogbot]

Happy days are here again, just to add some more points.

1. WEST is helping India with whole heart offered aircraft carriers, Arrow and pact missile defense system sales.
2. when you run in competition than you do more hard work and its good.

The WEST is helping India whole heart

What a joke.

Its our diplomatic success and growing assertiveness on the world stage that has improved peace time relations with them.

Israeli is willing to sell India and China.
And its in there best interests to do so.

They will choose to be neutral in any war.
Unless we give them a reason to support us.

India has no Military Agreements guaranteeing it support In case of hostility.

They will help us only so much as it is helpful to them.

 

[devd]

What a joke.

Its our diplomatic success and growing assertiveness on the world stage that has improved peace time relations with them.

Israeli is willing to sell India and China.
And its in there best interests to do so.

They will choose to be neutral in any war.
Unless we give them a reason to support us.

India has no Military Agreements guaranteeing it support In case of hostility.

They will help us only so much as it is helpful to them.

Then why Israel helps in Kargil and mumbai attack ? Its a big world politics . its not only buyer and seller relationship. its much more beyond that and same with US.

 

[shchinese]

As a regular visitor to many Chinese military forums, I can tell you guys the general feelings we Chinese have regarding such aids from the west and your arm deals.

1. We in general believes western aids/arm exports are negative for building up your defence system -- all those stuff come with strings attached, the price tag is never fancy and they only give you what they want you to have. last but not least -- when you can buy the AC, why build your own?

by the time your UK made one arrives your port, you should have already seen Chinese domestic built ones (not that russian half done crap) in active service.

2. We in general believes the arm embargo applied on China after 1989 is one of the best contributions to our military modernization and a lot of our military fans worry about the possible lift being considered by many EU countries.

actually, I found it is quite funny that india is claiming itself to be an important power in the world while also seeking such aids from the west.

If you look at your crappy armed forces, look at the progress (if any) made by them in the past 2 decades, then you compared the modernization achieved by the Chinese ones, you can clearly see the differences - Chinese work hard and believe the strengths come from the solid industral and economic foundations built by its own, india on the other hand just keep dreaming and talking, no one do the real job, the whole logic of "when we can buy Mig-29/Su-30/T-90/Arrow from foreign countries, then why build our own?" is killing the nation's future.

As a Chinese, I of course would love indian to keep the current direction and make the same mistake for another 2 decades. After reading this thread and the news about how russia keeps increasing the charges for the AC, I realised it is india, a dreaming and talking nation, and for this reason, I feel more comfortable than ever before that we own the future not india/indian.

 

[Spring Onion]

Indeed China owns the future.

Keep it up.

 

[DaRk WaVe]

Old people like Vajpayee, Advani, Manmohan Singh, Pranab Mukharjee, Mulyam Singh can not think out of box and shy away from taking risks as says the Bharat Verma Indian militery analists and oldies always want to have a friendship with Pakistan which will never happen.

so thats your source, Cool

 

[shchinese]

indian friends, trust me one thing:

when people are offering you help, it is not because you are strong, it is because you are weak. they are not making you stronger, they are making you to believe that you are getting stronger so they can use you.

let's forget about the west for just 5 minutes, let's look at russia which you never had real problem. tell me why russia refuse to give you engine technologies? tell me why russia is increasing the price of that AC a couple of times a year? tell me why russia is refusing to let your team share the design blueprint of their 5th generation fighter when they call it a joint project?

trust me, you, india, have no real friends in this world, you never earned one.

just look at your neighbor Pakistan, when China did the joint development project on JF-17 with Pak, full details are provided to Pak to let them build the jets on their own on their own land. Who is doing the same for you? Look at the claimed nuke transfer from China to Pakistan, who is doing the same for you? Last year when the global financial climate was not that good, China made it clear to the world that China will never let Pak's international debt to overdue, who is going to provide you the same unlimited support?

it is good time to think about the failure of your nation.

 

[unicorn148]

We don't require such help from any countries india has one the least impact of the global financial crisis our economic growth is better than any developed country and you say about friends we have russia to help us in every situation From next year every Su30mki will be built in india and 100% indigenous russia and india are combinedly developing 5 gen fighter china has not offered any such thing to pak . russia is developing a medium transport aircraft with india .china has not offered to pakisthan . russia is even ready to share its latest AESA radar it developed with only india

 

[unicorn148]

India is economically very strong indian groth in Q2 was 7.9 % and chinas was predicted as 7.5%

 

[shchinese]

We don't require such help from any countries india has one the least impact of the global financial crisis our economic growth is better than any developed country and you say about friends we have russia to help us in every situation From next year every Su30mki will be built in india

with imported engine, radar, missile, fire control computer, flight control software, hull material.

this list goes on much longer.

and 100% indigenous russia and india are combinedly developing 5 gen fighter china has not offered any such thing to pak .

no troll, regarding the so called 5 gen fighter, answer the following questions.

is there any input made by indian on its design? nothing!
can you build those 5 gen fighters when it is done? NO, you can't.
can you decide how many you get? No, it subjects to russia's national interests.
can you take the blue print home? No, it is the national secret of russia.

russia is developing a medium transport aircraft with india .china has not offered to pakisthan . russia is even ready to share its latest AESA radar it developed with only india

that is because ours are still under development, there is no any single Chinese designed/made on in service with the PLA.

keep trolling please, that widens our gap.

 

[unicorn148]

even pakisthan is importing western radars and missiles and engines from russia first try to develop a proper engine for your self

 

[unicorn148]

the no of aircraft we want its our wish because that 5 gen aircraft will be built in india and india is developing the two seat interface for FFGA and some major components and india can take tha blue prints for it self like it has done in case of brahmos

 

[shchinese]

even pakisthan is importing western radars and missiles and engines from russia first try to develop a proper engine for your self

the problem is Pakistani people do not walk around and keep telling everyone how great their imported stuff are.

also keep in mind, they can produce JF-17 on their own, as long as we together can get the engine issue solved (RD93 is being copied, yes, Chinese clone), they will be able to produce as many as they want.

your russian friends won't allow you to have too many Su-30.