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(Bloomberg) -- Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp. has likely advanced its production technology by two generations, defying US sanctions intended to halt the rise of China’s largest chipmaker.
The Shanghai-based manufacturer is shipping Bitcoin-mining semiconductors built using 7-nanometer technology, industry watchers TechInsights wrote in a blog post on Tuesday. That’s well ahead of SMIC’s established 14nm technology, a measure of fabrication complexity in which narrower transistor widths help produce faster and more efficient chips. Since late 2020, the US has barred the unlicensed sale to the Chinese firm of equipment that can be used to fabricate semiconductors of 10nm and beyond, infuriating Beijing.

A person familiar with the developments confirmed the report, asking not to be named as they were not authorized to discuss it publicly. SMIC climbed as much as 1.9% in Hong Kong, while Chinese chip and chip gear stocks including Shanghai Fudan Microelectronics Group Co., Naura Technology Group Co. and Advanced Micro-Fabrication Equipment Inc. gained more than 5%.

SMIC’s surprising progress raises questions about how effective the export control mechanism has been and whether Washington can indeed thwart China’s ambition to foster a world-class chip industry at home and reduce reliance on foreign technologies. It also comes at a time American lawmakers have urged Washington to close loopholes in its Chinese-oriented curbs and ensure Beijing isn’t supplying crucial technology to Russia.

The restrictions effectively derailed Huawei Technologies Co.’s smartphone business by cutting it off from the tools to compete at the cutting edge -- but that company is now quietly staffing up a renewed effort to develop its in-house chipmaking acumen.
Previously, SMIC has said that its core capabilities stand at 14nm, two generations behind 7nm, which in turn is roughly four years behind the most advanced technology available now from Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. and Samsung Electronics Co. The company has worked with clients on technologies more advanced than 14nm as early as 2020, it said on an earnings call that year.

China-based MinerVa Semiconductor Corp., which is named as SMIC’s customer in the TechInsights report, showcases a 7nm chip on its website and said mass production began in July 2021, without specifying the manufacturer. Dylan Patel, chief analyst at SemiAnalysis, was first to note the report.

Representatives of SMIC and MinerVa didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment.

The Trump administration blacklisted SMIC about two years ago on national security concerns, citing the company’s ties with the Chinese military, an allegation the chipmaker has denied. Following Washington’s move, American equipment suppliers have been banned from providing the Chinese company with gear “uniquely required” to produce 10nm or more advanced chips without licenses, although it is not clear exactly what the US Department of Commerce has allowed domestic firms to sell to SMIC since.

Huawei and SMIC Scored Billions in US Licenses, Lawmakers Say

US Senator Marco Rubio and US Congressman Michael McCaul have repeatedly urged the department to tighten export control restrictions pertaining to SMIC to strengthen US security and ensure China is not transferring technology to Russia and helping Moscow evade sanctions.

“The Biden Administration will continue working to grow and strengthen our cooperation with allies and partners to ensure effective controls on semiconductor production so that we remain generations ahead of competitors in advanced semiconductor technology,” a spokesperson for the Commerce Department said. The National Security Council did not immediately respond to a request seeking comment.

SMIC has said that its blacklist status hurts its ability to develop sophisticated technologies. The company’s capability is severely curbed by its lack of access to ASML Holding NV’s extreme ultraviolet lithography (EUV) systems, which are required to make the most advanced chips that include 5nm and 3nm geometries. The Dutch firm has not shipped a single EUV machine to mainland China because of US pressure on the Dutch government.

US Pushes for ASML to Stop Selling Chipmaking Gear to China

The administration of President Joe Biden at one point considered tightening restrictions around SMIC but ruled out any unilateral action to allow for more time to negotiate with other trading partners. Those talks have not borne fruit so far. Washington is, however, pushing ASML to stop selling even less advanced gear to China.

SMIC told analysts in mid-2020 that a large share of the equipment it has for 14nm chips can be used to make more advanced chips and it is seeking to develop more sophisticated technology to improve its profitability.

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We finally broke through 7nm. Next are 5nm and 3nm.

Supercharged growth of mainland China: 19 of the world’s 20 fastest-growing chip companies, reports Bloomberg​



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So they have been shipping it since 2021! Why not mention it publicly?
 
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So they have been shipping it since 2021! Why not mention it publicly?
China don't even publish our fastest supercomputer now. US might sanction some shit again. We are still using a US based trading system until a RMB system is up and running. Might take another 5 to 10 years to be fully functioning, in the meantime we need to stay low and build our strength. We had been patient for 40 years, another 10 years will make us a peer superpower. Patience..
 
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So they have been shipping it since 2021! Why not mention it publicly?
SMIC will mass produce 12nm chips in 2019, and will only sell 12nm chips to the market in 2022. At present, SMIC does have the capacity to produce 7nm chips, but it is still unable to mass produce, let alone enter the sales market.

Moore group purchased the first batch of mass-produced 12nm chips. They used the chips to make the first batch of completely domestic graphics cards in China, MTT S60 and Fenghua No. 1. However, after user testing, these two graphics cards are only equivalent to GTX 1660 super and GTX 1080 ti. We are still far from the international advanced level.

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Lol. Seems there has been lots of new innovation in China. In sandpaper technology.


Wonder whose chip they stole this time?
What is the significance of what happened in 2003?

Do you know what mass production means?
 
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Good but does China need any Western machines or software to make 7nm chips?
 
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Lol. Seems there has been lots of new innovation in China. In sandpaper technology.


Wonder whose chip they stole this time?

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Congratulations to India for successfully inventing cow dung chip.


Good but does China need any Western machines or software to make 7nm chips?
Chips and lithography machines are jointly developed and manufactured by the whole western world. Now China wants to manufacture lithography machines independently. It's crazy. But I believe China can do it.
 
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Yes, SMIC uses a 7nm etcher made in China.
Because of sanctions, Chinese companies cannot purchase EUV from ASML, and all equipment can only be produced by themselves.



So China is TOTALLY independent of the West in terms of machines and software or is it still using what it brought from them earlier?

Even if it is still using legacy stuff it brought before 2019 that is still good progress and I am sure China will be totally independent and up there with the West by 2030 at the latest.

Good job China!
 
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Lol. Seems there has been lots of new innovation in China. In sandpaper technology.


Wonder whose chip they stole this time?
It's all stolen no worries. Now keep on buying our billions of dollars worth of goods and be good. Lol


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Congratulations to India for successfully inventing cow dung chip.



Chips and lithography machines are jointly developed and manufactured by the whole western world. Now China wants to manufacture lithography machines independently. It's crazy. But I believe China can do it.
Stop feeding that troll, he was shocked by the word 7nm,hence he needed to let off some sour juice.

So China is TOTALLY independent of the West in terms of machines and software or is it still using what it brought from them earlier?

Even if it is still using legacy stuff it brought before 2019 that is still good progress and I am sure China will be totally independent and up there with the West by 2030 at the latest.

Good job China!
I wouldn't say totally, because some duv were bought before the sanctions but I believe most of the components if the DUV is getting localised. A pure 100% native 7nm machine won't be ready until 2 to 3 years time. The keyword here is sustainability, even with sanctions China can Co tinue producing 7nm chips. Remember the key brain from TSMC is in SMIC serving the motherland.
 
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(Bloomberg) -- Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp. has likely advanced its production technology by two generations, defying US sanctions intended to halt the rise of China’s largest chipmaker.
The Shanghai-based manufacturer is shipping Bitcoin-mining semiconductors built using 7-nanometer technology, industry watchers TechInsights wrote in a blog post on Tuesday. That’s well ahead of SMIC’s established 14nm technology, a measure of fabrication complexity in which narrower transistor widths help produce faster and more efficient chips. Since late 2020, the US has barred the unlicensed sale to the Chinese firm of equipment that can be used to fabricate semiconductors of 10nm and beyond, infuriating Beijing.

A person familiar with the developments confirmed the report, asking not to be named as they were not authorized to discuss it publicly. SMIC climbed as much as 1.9% in Hong Kong, while Chinese chip and chip gear stocks including Shanghai Fudan Microelectronics Group Co., Naura Technology Group Co. and Advanced Micro-Fabrication Equipment Inc. gained more than 5%.

SMIC’s surprising progress raises questions about how effective the export control mechanism has been and whether Washington can indeed thwart China’s ambition to foster a world-class chip industry at home and reduce reliance on foreign technologies. It also comes at a time American lawmakers have urged Washington to close loopholes in its Chinese-oriented curbs and ensure Beijing isn’t supplying crucial technology to Russia.

The restrictions effectively derailed Huawei Technologies Co.’s smartphone business by cutting it off from the tools to compete at the cutting edge -- but that company is now quietly staffing up a renewed effort to develop its in-house chipmaking acumen.
Previously, SMIC has said that its core capabilities stand at 14nm, two generations behind 7nm, which in turn is roughly four years behind the most advanced technology available now from Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. and Samsung Electronics Co. The company has worked with clients on technologies more advanced than 14nm as early as 2020, it said on an earnings call that year.

China-based MinerVa Semiconductor Corp., which is named as SMIC’s customer in the TechInsights report, showcases a 7nm chip on its website and said mass production began in July 2021, without specifying the manufacturer. Dylan Patel, chief analyst at SemiAnalysis, was first to note the report.

Representatives of SMIC and MinerVa didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment.

The Trump administration blacklisted SMIC about two years ago on national security concerns, citing the company’s ties with the Chinese military, an allegation the chipmaker has denied. Following Washington’s move, American equipment suppliers have been banned from providing the Chinese company with gear “uniquely required” to produce 10nm or more advanced chips without licenses, although it is not clear exactly what the US Department of Commerce has allowed domestic firms to sell to SMIC since.

Huawei and SMIC Scored Billions in US Licenses, Lawmakers Say

US Senator Marco Rubio and US Congressman Michael McCaul have repeatedly urged the department to tighten export control restrictions pertaining to SMIC to strengthen US security and ensure China is not transferring technology to Russia and helping Moscow evade sanctions.

“The Biden Administration will continue working to grow and strengthen our cooperation with allies and partners to ensure effective controls on semiconductor production so that we remain generations ahead of competitors in advanced semiconductor technology,” a spokesperson for the Commerce Department said. The National Security Council did not immediately respond to a request seeking comment.

SMIC has said that its blacklist status hurts its ability to develop sophisticated technologies. The company’s capability is severely curbed by its lack of access to ASML Holding NV’s extreme ultraviolet lithography (EUV) systems, which are required to make the most advanced chips that include 5nm and 3nm geometries. The Dutch firm has not shipped a single EUV machine to mainland China because of US pressure on the Dutch government.

US Pushes for ASML to Stop Selling Chipmaking Gear to China

The administration of President Joe Biden at one point considered tightening restrictions around SMIC but ruled out any unilateral action to allow for more time to negotiate with other trading partners. Those talks have not borne fruit so far. Washington is, however, pushing ASML to stop selling even less advanced gear to China.

SMIC told analysts in mid-2020 that a large share of the equipment it has for 14nm chips can be used to make more advanced chips and it is seeking to develop more sophisticated technology to improve its profitability.

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This is the reason why China is displacing US as the top global power.
 
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This is the reason why China is displacing US as the top global power.
I feel like very few people outside China realize the vast resources, organizational efficiency and incredible determination and focus that Chinese society is capable of. That’s why American policymakers keep shooting themselves in the foot trying to contain China. I guess they never heard of the saying, Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer.
 
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I feel like very few people outside China realize the vast resources, organizational efficiency and incredible determination and focus that Chinese society is capable of. That’s why American policymakers keep shooting themselves in the foot trying to contain China. I guess they never heard of the saying, Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer.

Impossible to contain China and they were deluded to think without China’s support they could do anything to Russia over Ukraine.
 
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I wouldn't say totally, because some duv were bought before the sanctions but I believe most of the components if the DUV is getting localised. A pure 100% native 7nm machine won't be ready until 2 to 3 years time. The keyword here is sustainability, even with sanctions China can Co tinue producing 7nm chips. Remember the key brain from TSMC is in SMIC serving the motherland.



Still good if China can be totally independent in 7nm by 2024-2025 and so 6-7 years behind the West.

Then it has a realistic chance of catching up by 2030.
 
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