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By Agencies
Published: October 11, 2016

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BEIJING: China said on Monday that “no country should pursue its own political gains in the name of counterterrorism” in what India’s jingoist media said appeared to be a reference to New Delhi’s global campaign to get Pakistan declared a ‘pariah’.

China’s Vice Foreign Minister Li Baodong said no country should have double standards on terrorism or use it for political gains. Though he didn’t name any country, the Times of India newspaper said Beijing “added insult to injury by accusing New Delhi”.



Li was speaking to reporters on President Xi Jinping’s upcoming visit to India for the 8th BRICS summit in Goa on October 15 and 16. The BRICS group of emerging nations includes Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa.

“There should be no double standards on terrorism nor should one pursue its own political gains in the name of counterterrorism,” Li said while replying to a question on criticism about China’s move to stall India’s bid for a UN ban on Maulana Masood Azhar, the head of Jaish-e-Muhammad militant group, which New Delhi blames for being behind the January attack on its air force base in Pathankot.

“On counterterrorism, the five countries have consensus. The foreign ministers of the five countries reached an agreement on the margins of the United Nation General Assembly. We hope and believe this Goa summit will build on the consensus and continue to strengthen cooperation on counterterrorism and other issues of political security,” Li said.

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He added: “Counterterrorism, it is also important area of cooperation among BRICS on political security. Cooperation on this front will enhance BRICS coordination and contribute to world peace and security,” he said.



He said China’s position on counterterrorism is consistent and that “China opposes all forms of terrorism”.

China’s vice foreign minister also said that his country was willing to discuss ‘possibilities’ with India on its bid to become a fully-fledged member of the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG).

India last month said it had held ‘substantive’ talks with China on its attempt to join the NSG, a 48-member grouping of countries that trades in civil nuclear technology. Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi is campaigning to join the NSG to back a multibillion-dollar drive to build nuclear power plants in partnership with Russia, the United States and France, and reduce India’s reliance on polluting fossil fuels.

Yet his bid to win accession to the group, founded in response to India’s first atomic weapons test in 1974, has failed to win over strategic rival China, which enjoys a de facto veto because it operates by consensus.

Li said new NSG members needed to be agreed upon by all existing members. “These rules were not set by China,” Li said. “On the issue of joining the NSG, China and India have all along had very good communications, and [China] is willing to have further communications with the Indian side, to increase consensus,” he said.

“On this, China is willing to jointly explore all kinds of possibilities with India, but this must accord with the charter of the NSG, and certain rules need to be respected by all sides,” Li said, without elaborating.

The nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) recognises the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council – the United States, Russia, China, Britain and France – as nuclear weapons powers but not others. India has ruled out signing the NPT but says its track record of non-proliferation should entitle it to join the Nuclear Suppliers Group.

India was granted an NSG waiver in 2008 that allows it to engage in nuclear commerce, but deprives it of a vote in the organisation’s decision making.

Published in The Express Tribune, October 11th, 2016.
 
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Very logical and balanced stance on the part of China..It doesn't address only India but the western hypocrisy about terrorism and counter-terrorism new game that had replaced the cold war game to keep its hegemonic ambitions going forever..
 
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By Agencies
Published: October 11, 2016

1196963-_ORIGINAL-1476162285-276-640x480.jpg

PHOTO: Reuters

BEIJING: China said on Monday that “no country should pursue its own political gains in the name of counterterrorism” in what India’s jingoist media said appeared to be a reference to New Delhi’s global campaign to get Pakistan declared a ‘pariah’.

China’s Vice Foreign Minister Li Baodong said no country should have double standards on terrorism or use it for political gains. Though he didn’t name any country, the Times of India newspaper said Beijing “added insult to injury by accusing New Delhi”.



Li was speaking to reporters on President Xi Jinping’s upcoming visit to India for the 8th BRICS summit in Goa on October 15 and 16. The BRICS group of emerging nations includes Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa.

“There should be no double standards on terrorism nor should one pursue its own political gains in the name of counterterrorism,” Li said while replying to a question on criticism about China’s move to stall India’s bid for a UN ban on Maulana Masood Azhar, the head of Jaish-e-Muhammad militant group, which New Delhi blames for being behind the January attack on its air force base in Pathankot.

“On counterterrorism, the five countries have consensus. The foreign ministers of the five countries reached an agreement on the margins of the United Nation General Assembly. We hope and believe this Goa summit will build on the consensus and continue to strengthen cooperation on counterterrorism and other issues of political security,” Li said.

1-28.jpg


He added: “Counterterrorism, it is also important area of cooperation among BRICS on political security. Cooperation on this front will enhance BRICS coordination and contribute to world peace and security,” he said.



He said China’s position on counterterrorism is consistent and that “China opposes all forms of terrorism”.

China’s vice foreign minister also said that his country was willing to discuss ‘possibilities’ with India on its bid to become a fully-fledged member of the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG).

India last month said it had held ‘substantive’ talks with China on its attempt to join the NSG, a 48-member grouping of countries that trades in civil nuclear technology. Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi is campaigning to join the NSG to back a multibillion-dollar drive to build nuclear power plants in partnership with Russia, the United States and France, and reduce India’s reliance on polluting fossil fuels.

Yet his bid to win accession to the group, founded in response to India’s first atomic weapons test in 1974, has failed to win over strategic rival China, which enjoys a de facto veto because it operates by consensus.

Li said new NSG members needed to be agreed upon by all existing members. “These rules were not set by China,” Li said. “On the issue of joining the NSG, China and India have all along had very good communications, and [China] is willing to have further communications with the Indian side, to increase consensus,” he said.

“On this, China is willing to jointly explore all kinds of possibilities with India, but this must accord with the charter of the NSG, and certain rules need to be respected by all sides,” Li said, without elaborating.

The nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) recognises the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council – the United States, Russia, China, Britain and France – as nuclear weapons powers but not others. India has ruled out signing the NPT but says its track record of non-proliferation should entitle it to join the Nuclear Suppliers Group.

India was granted an NSG waiver in 2008 that allows it to engage in nuclear commerce, but deprives it of a vote in the organisation’s decision making.

Published in The Express Tribune, October 11th, 2016.

Indians are trying to use their deceptive rhetoric against terrorism to blackmail China. First of all, it's a deep shame for civilized world that Indian PM Modi is resorting to deception and falsehood by talking against terrorism and falsely accusing Pakistan sponsoring terrorism. Make no mistake to identify the fact that Modi is the prime minister of the same country, India, that serves as the epicenter of terrorism in this whole region. Indians have consistently used terrorism against other countries especially Pakistan and Sri Lanka as a tool of their foreign policy for gaining strategic goals. One should ask this idiot Indian PM what that infamous Indian terrorist Monkey (aka IN Commander Kul Bhoshan Jhadev) was doing in Iran and Pakistan? That terrorist monkey was, in fact, running one of the biggest terrorist networks in the area on behalf of Indian state. Indian terrorism killed scores of innocent Pakistanis in schools, parks, markets, offices, and train stations. Yes, "Those who support, shelter terrorists can’t be spared"; we fully agree to that. And we would like to assure the civilized world that we'll make Modi and his gang of criminals dearly pay for the terrorism they unleashed against the people of Pakistan. Labeling the Kashmiri freedom fighters as terrorist will not deceive the world. Of course, Chinese understand the Indian evil indeed well.

Indian is illegally occupying the a part of J&K in continued violation of UN resolutions. The people of the J&K have a right to fight back against the illegal Indian occupation. Occupying Indian soldiers are perfectly legitimate targets for the Kashmiri freedom fighters. Indian falsehood aimed at discrediting the freedom struggle and perpetuating its illegal occupation is not going to work. The people of J&K will keep bleeding the occupation forces. Indian hue and cry cannot stop them fighting against illegal Indian occupation. The people of J&K are determined to defeat the Indians and their falsehood, lies, and deception.
 
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Mark my word..we will get NSG for sure(China will support)...UNSC...not too sure, if it happens great, if not no sweat!

Indian members were claiming the exact same thing non-stop before the last NSG meeting in Seoul.

They quieted down for like 2 weeks after that, now they are suddenly 100% sure they will get the NSG seat again. It's a cycle. :enjoy:

And yes, sure, you can get the seat. The only question is what are you willing to pay for it.
 
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No matter how much jingoistic Indian media fools their public and thinks it can do the same to others, the world and especially neighbors are not stupid.

They know Indias double game all too well i.e. financing/arming/training terrorism in the neighborhood and at the same time crying out victim.

So India, keep crying, this double game has to end!
 
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Indian members were claiming the exact same thing non-stop before the last NSG meeting in Seoul.

They quieted down for like 2 weeks after that, now they are suddenly 100% sure they will get the NSG seat again. It's a cycle. :enjoy:

And yes, sure, you can get the seat. The only question is what are you willing to pay for it.
Nothing!...we are anyway excempt..so business as usual...just want to make it official....Now are you willing to let go an opportunity to make more money and have more influence in your neck of the wood...thats a better question..No!.
 
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Indian members were claiming the exact same thing non-stop before the last NSG meeting in Seoul.

They quieted down for like 2 weeks after that, now they are suddenly 100% sure they will get the NSG seat again. It's a cycle. :enjoy:

And yes, sure, you can get the seat. The only question is what are you willing to pay for it.

I love the way how they trivilize UNSC membership "If India gets it, fine, if no - no sweat!" :lol:
 
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