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Beijing: China's deteriorating human rights record is a growing concern for the United States, even as overall ties between the countries become more entwined, US Ambassador Gary Locke said on Wednesday.
With China drawing criticism from candidates in the US presidential election and Beijing changing Communist Party leaders next year, Locke said the Obama administration would work to maintain forward momentum in relations, including coaxing China to open up wider to US exports and investment to create more American jobs.
In an interview, Locke reflected on his four months as the top US diplomat in China, from efforts to cut the time Chinese have to wait to get visas, to cooperation on clean energy research, to his own unexpected celebrity as the first Chinese-American ambassador.
"When we're having lunch with the family ... or we're going to a supermarket, we're
stopped by people who want pictures, even at the airport or
on an airplane," Locke said at the US Embassy during a lunch of sandwiches and pasta salad, indicative of his down-to- earth personal style that has won him kudos from many among the Chinese public.
Locke said the Foreign Ministry has summoned him only once for a dressing down, late one September night over the administration's decision to upgrade the US-made F-16 fighter jets of Taiwan, the self-ruled island democracy claimed by China.
Long involved in China issues, first as governor of Washington state and then as commerce secretary, Locke described Beijing's reaction to the $5.85 billion deal as strong, but overall relations did not plummet the way they had after some previous US arms sales. Recent initiatives by President Barack Obama to strengthen the US military alliances with Australia and other countries on China's edge have not caused undue friction, he said, signs of the breadth of ties between the world's largest and second- largest economies.
"The US-China relationship is certainly stronger than ever before, much more complex than ever before. The economies of China and the US have become much more sophisticated and much more complex" since the start of diplomatic relations 33 years ago, Locke said.
However, Locke expressed strong concerns over China's rights record, saying abuses had been rising over the past year as Chinese leaders worried that the democratic uprisings that swept Egypt and other Arab countries might spread to China. He cited
the widespread detention and arrest of activists and lawyers and a lack of judicial independence.
"It's getting worse. I think certainly the last several months, or actually the last year or so, we've seen developments and incidents that give us great pause and a great deal of concern," Locke said.
Locke said he has met with a wide range of activists, lawyers and religious leaders and sensed they were uneasy to discuss not only sensitive topics such as controls on religion but also mundane ones such as raising incomes and living standards for women and migrant workers.
The embassy's deputy chief of mission tried to meet in the last two weeks with Liu Xia - the wife of imprisoned Nobel Peace Prize laureate Liu Xiaobo who herself is under house arrest - but was stopped from doing so, Locke said.
"So we are monitoring these cases. We are trying to meet with individuals as much as we can," he said. Locke said he has continued to raise the case of jailed American geologist Xue Feng, visiting him twice. He said the case highlights the abuse of the legal system in China.
Though Locke said he reached out to human rights lobbyists soon after Obama selected him as ambassador last February, he has been seen as being more comfortable with business and trade issues. The rights community has criticized him for not being as visible an advocate as his predecessor, would-be Republican presidential candidate Jon Hunstman.
Being of Chinese ancestry - his grandfather emigrated from southern China and worked as a servant - has made Locke's tenure as ambassador unusual. From before he boarded the plane to take up the post in August, he has been in the spotlight; someone photographed him buying coffee in a Starbucks in Seattle and posted it on the Internet.
He has won wide admiration in social media. That he carries his own knapsack, buys coffee and travels economy class has drawn favorable comparisons with Chinese officials, who often travel first class and in the company of fawning assistants. The more nationalistic state media have questioned whether these habits are part of a plan to defame China, and editors and reporters have said they have been told not to give Locke too much prominence in
their reporting.
"Who would have thought that just getting a cup of coffee would create such a stir," Locke said.
Another unexpected controversy has been over Beijing's often dismal air quality. The US Embassy publishes on the Internet and Twitter readings from a rooftop monitor. The results are frequently at odds with Beijing's official data and are being used by local Chinese to prod their government into doing something.
Locke said he has been surprised by the awful air when he walks the family dog at night or takes his three children to the school bus in the morning. He said no Chinese official has complained to him about the data, though state media have.
"We get questions from the Chinese media about whether we're trying to sow discontent," Locke said. Story first published: December 14, 2011 19:23 IST
 
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Who the hell are american govt to tell a sovrn nation about human rights etc? What authority are their leaders acting on? Why dont they comment on the human rights of the saudi people? Oh sorry forgot those saudi despots are people that americans like because they put america over the ordinary citozen of saudi

What about the protesters in america what about their human rights being trampled on by American govt.
 
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Gitmo hypocrisy

Published: 25 June, 2011, 01:32
Edited: 28 June, 2011, 01:39


As America speaks out on human rights violations worldwide and attempts to “spread democracy,” the States is becoming the culprit of the very violations it so often condemns.

*As detainees say goodbye to Gitmo, first-hand accounts of the atrocities they experienced at the hands of America are surfacing. According to investigative reporter Jason Leopold, “It’s one of the issues that no one seems to want to mention.”

Even if that’s the case, detainees are coming forward to describe what they endured and expose the hypocrisy of America and Leopold says “What’s really important is this isn’t going away.”

The US, says Leopold, are “Vilifying other countries, other governments for human rights abuses…in many cases the same types of human rights violations” that America itself is guilty of.

“I can’t tell you how many press releases I’ve read from the State Department in the past three months talking about sanctions and human rights abuses that match exactly what the Bush administration had done to detainees,” he says. The Obama administration isn’t being any different, and as America fails to hold itself accountable, others are crying “hypocrite.”

“I think other countries are looking at us at being hypocritical,” he says. “They don’t really believe the rhetoric coming out of President Obama’s mouth and that goes for Secretary of State Hilary Clinton as well."

And why isn’t America stepping up for their own atrocities? “Apologizing would perhaps be accepting some sort of complicit,” says Leopold. “It would be acknowledging that detainees have in fact been tortured.”

And that, he says, “is something we know that this administration has refused to
 
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US talking about human rights, how hypocritical. Speaking of which, do Americans have any human rights left? :azn: New law allows government to imprison indefinitely American citizens without a trial or charge, or even KILL them, no questions asked, no liability. Rights for privacy US citizens abandoned a decade ago, now they have remaining rights removed.

US is a pure police state now - 'totalitarianism and social control, and there is usually little or no distinction between the law and the exercise of political power by the executive'.
 
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America’s human rights hypocrisy

Published: 10 November, 2010, 02:36
Edited: 10 November, 2010, 09:16



The human rights record of the United States was put under an international microscope, as the UN Human Rights Council issued 228 recommendations on how Washington can address violations.



America has long been the self appointed global leader on human rights, pointing out the shortcomings of others. But now the tables have turned. According to the United Nations Human Rights Council, incidents of injustice are taking place on US soil.

The point was made in Geneva, Switzerland at the Human Rights Council’s first comprehensive review of Washington’s record. The council released a Universal Periodic Review Tuesday, listing 228 recommendations on how the US can do better.

“Close Guantanamo and secret detention centers throughout the world, punish those people who torture, disappear and execute detainees arbitrarily,” said Venezuelan delegate German Mundarain Hernan.

The US has dismissed many recommendations calling them political provocations by hostile countries.

Yet even America’s allies are highlighting grave flaws. France and Ireland are demanding Obama follow through on the promise to close Guantanamo Bay. Britain, Belgium and dozens of others have called on the US to abolish the death penalty.

For many, it’s the ultimate hypocrisy. How can a state with roughly 3,000 people on death row lecture the world about humanity? Many say the prime example is Mumia abu Jamal, viewed by some as America’s very own political prisoner.

“The United States, the perpetrator of gross human right violations is using human rights as a political football against its enemies.Its enemies are not enemies because they violate human rights necessarily, but because the US wants to change the government in their country,” said Brian Becker, Director of A.N.S.W.E.R Coalition in Washington, DC.

The country often criticizing adversaries like Syria, Iran and North Korea for oppressing its citizens, is now faced with defending domestic practices like indefinite detention, poor prison conditions, and racial profiling.

America is home to the world's largest prison population, with 2.3 million people currently behind bars.

Children can be sentenced to life in prison and more than 100 undocumented immigrants have died behind bars while awaiting deportation from the US.

Increasing discrimination against Muslims has become another blemish on America’s human rights record. Hundreds have been arrested in so-called FBI foiled terror plots involving government paid informants accused of manufacturing and setting up the crime. It is a practice other countries term entrapment.
 
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Who the hell are american govt to tell a sovrn nation about human rights etc? What authority are their leaders acting on? Why dont they comment on the human rights of the saudi people? Oh sorry forgot those saudi despots are people that americans like because they put america over the ordinary citozen of saudi

What about the protesters in america what about their human rights being trampled on by American govt.

they do comment and Infact many Saudis have been saved from man made barbaric Islamic laws in that country. why do you get so mad about human rights? it seems you rather be the Chinese spokepeson vs for humanity.
 
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US talking about human rights, how hypocritical. Speaking of which, do Americans have any human rights left? :azn: New law allows government to imprison indefinitely American citizens without a trial or charge, or even KILL them, no questions asked, no liability. Rights for privacy US citizens abandoned a decade ago, now they have remaining rights removed.

US is a pure police state now - 'totalitarianism and social control, and there is usually little or no distinction between the law and the exercise of political power by the executive'.

White House Rejects* Indefinite Detention Policy Passed by US Senate FY 2012 Defense Authorization

White House Rejects Indefinite Detention Policy Passed by US Senate


BTW I would hardly call so far 1 American citizen being detained without trail ( past case and no more , he was granted trial) as a human rights violation of the extent you have espoused.
 
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White House Rejects* Indefinite Detention Policy Passed by US Senate FY 2012 Defense Authorization

White House Rejects Indefinite Detention Policy Passed by US Senate


BTW I would hardly call so far 1 American citizen being detained without trail ( past case and no more , he was granted trial) as a human rights violation of the extent you have espoused.

I would suggest you read all the posts I have put up here. What I disagree with is the double standards of one country to be critical of another country whilst behaving in that manner themselves and not been critical of allies:

India's human rights record makes a farce of its democracy | Seema Sengupta | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
 
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I would suggest you read all the posts I have put up here. What I disagree with is the double standards of one country to be critical of another country whilst behaving in that manner themselves and not been critical of allies:

India's human rights record makes a farce of its democracy | Seema Sengupta | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk


you disagree because you are beholden to the Chinese in some weird feeling of love ... you don't disagree with any common sense. you paint broad strokes, you always have, you have undereducated views and bombastic rethoric... look at the link you provided, it has nothing to do with the " educated " comment I made...

you are the one we expect to see on TV burning an effigy and stomping on flags and chanting " death to America" . The only difference is that you do so form a perch of safety in a western country, dispensing your rabble rousing wanna be jihadist vitriol from the sanctity of a western country/ human right culture...

you would not have the guts to come out of that shell and protection of human rights you get in UK and walk your talk...but you will stand here and instigate everyday pakistanis in pakistan how they should stand up and fight for the cause ...
 
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the world is not perfect,people by no means are born equal and all countries have human right violations to some degree,the difference is that other countries violate human rights in their own countries,US violates human rights everywhere in the world.
 
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US has the most inmates in the world,if you are an American,you are more like to be put behind bars some time in your life time than people from any other countries.you have more rights to be locked up and practice your human rights in your cell.
 
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BTW I would hardly call so far 1 American citizen being detained without trail ( past case and no more , he was granted trial) as a human rights violation of the extent you have espoused.

US is a bandit country,it first stole land from native Americans and killed them off,they brought in people from Africa and made them slaves.during the ww2 they locked up thousands of Japanese Americans into concentration camps.did those people got any fair trial at all?
 
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they do comment and Infact many Saudis have been saved from man made barbaric Islamic laws in that country. why do you get so mad about human rights? it seems you rather be the Chinese spokepeson vs for humanity.


According to your Indian theory, Gary Locke is a seditious Chinese immigrant. Why all of sudden you start gleefully rootering the seditious Chinese immigrant?

Oh, yeah, I forgot, you haven’t made an appointment with your psychiatrist for your split personality sickness yet. :lol:

Back to the topic.

Right, China does have human rights issue, but it is 100 times better than one of its neighbors where 2,000,000 children are killed every year, where communal violence is a staple of life, where the name “world murder capital” is bestowed upon, where racism is common practice and is accepted by the democracy mass, where NE minorities are routinely discriminated…
 
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US is a bandit country,it first stole land from native Americans and killed them off,they brought in people from Africa and made them slaves.during the ww2 they locked up thousands of Japanese Americans into concentration camps.did those people got any fair trial at all?

I have a mental image of you, Chinese, yelling like mad man . The problem you have with your brain freeze today and everyday is that 99.99999999% the world thinks of china as human rights violator and not the US. The problem you have is at the end of the day your only allies are considered " problematic pariah's " of the world... the problem you have is " other than economic transactions , 99.999999% doing trade with you , find you weird and overtly emotional".... finally the world is not laughing with you- it is Laughing at you!
 
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