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China's Golden Strategy

As a general rule, the most successful man in life is the man who has the best information
Zheng Bijian, a leading Chinese intellectual and reformer said: “The most important strategic choice the Chinese made was to embrace globalization.”

China has made a new most important strategic choice – Asian Regionalization.

“In the past few years, both Chinese and foreign analysts began to reach the conclusion that China has developed a fairly consistent and coherent grand strategy… Because economic development is taken as the only way for tackling all the pressing challenges that China is facing and will face, China’s grand strategy must serve the central purpose of development. Therefore, the central objective of China’s Grand Strategy in the past two decades (which may well last to 2050) can be captured in just one sentence: to secure and shape a conducive environment (security, economic, and political) so that China can concentrate on its development (economic, social, and political).”Tang Shiping and Zhang Yunling, China’s Regional Strategy

Today, trade with the United States, the European Union and the rest of the West is not the priority it use to be for China. Today the SCO (aka the Asian NATO), chaired by Russia and driven by China, has been ramping up its attention towards expansion and economic cooperation among its members.

That little nugget of information is going to have huge consequences for gold’s price. Let me explain.

Shanghai Cooperation Organization

Originally founded as the ‘Shanghai Five’in 1996 it was reformed as the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO)with the addition of Uzbekistan in 2001. The SCO is now an economic and security cooperation group consisting of six Central Asian countries: China, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.

Afghanistan, India, Iran, Mongolia and Pakistan are observers while Belarus, Turkey and Sri Lanka are dialogue partners. India, Pakistan, and Iran will become new members in 2015.
At the end of 2013, the bloc had a combined economic output of over 11 trillion U.S. dollars - representing 14.9 percent of the global total.

The SCO seems to be completely off gold investor’s radar screens. It definitely shouldn’t be because China (and Russia’s) goal is to ‘create an Asian security architecture independent of the United States and its allies.’

But the SCO, as China envisions it is so much more than just security - China is going to mould Genghis Khan’s old stomping ground into a new economic bloc. A single cohesive market with a shared security blanket that will eventually encompass over four billion people.
The infrastructure and economic corridors have already been planned for and in many cases have been successfully implemented and built…

“Last year, China devised a ‘New Silk Roads’ policy to enhance connectivity with neighbouring countries. This policy has two components: a ‘Silk Road Economic Belt’ for land connectivity initially with Central Asia and a ‘21st century Maritime Silk Road’ to connect China with ASEAN and, ultimately, with the coastal cities of South Asia as well.

China’s actions have led to the revival of the Northern Silk Road. Cities in inner provinces such as Kunming, Chongqing, Chengdu, Xi’an and Xining have emerged as major metropolitan cities with urban infrastructure projects paralleling those in coastal areas. China has built an east–west railway line to connect far-flung cities like Urumqi and Kashgar to Xi’an and the coastal cities. This railway line has been extended to Moscow, using Central Asia as an economic corridor, and then on to Duisburg (in Germany) to become the China–Europe railway line. East–west pipelines such as the Kazakhstan–China and Central Asia–China pipelines have also been built.

In conjunction with India, which is actively implementing its ‘Look East’ policy, China is building the BCIM Economic Corridor to connect the Yunnan province of China with Myanmar, Bangladesh and India. This is an important segment of the less well-known Southern Silk Road.

In June this year, the Chinese Ambassador to New Delhi, Wei Wei, proposed the establishment of a ‘Trans-Himalaya Economic Growth Region (THEGR)’ to promote the interconnection and joint prosperity of China and India and neighbouring countries. As with many such proposals from China, details are not known as yet. Nonetheless, the proposal is welcome as it addresses an important missing link in connectivity in the region.” eastasiaforum.org

Silk Road Economic Belt, Maritime Silk Road

In May of 2014 China’s state-owned Xinhua News Agency unveiled an ongoing feature entitled “New Silk Road, New Dreams.”
“According to the map, the land-based “New Silk Road” will begin in Xi’an in central China before stretching west through Lanzhou (Gansu province), Urumqi (Xinjiang), and Khorgas (Xinjiang), which is near the border with Kazakhstan. The Silk Road then runs southwest from Central Asia to northern Iran before swinging west through Iraq, Syria, and Turkey. From Istanbul, the Silk Road crosses the Bosporus Strait and heads northwest through Europe, including Bulgaria, Romania, the Czech Republic, and Germany. Reaching Duisburg in Germany, it swings north to Rotterdam in the Netherlands. From Rotterdam, the path runs south to Venice, Italy — where it meets up with the equally ambitious Maritime Silk Road.
The Maritime Silk Road will begin in Quanzhou in Fujian province, and also hit Guangzhou (Guangdong pronvince), Beihai (Guangxi), and Haikou (Hainan) before heading south to the Malacca Strait. From Kuala Lumpur, the Maritime Silk Road heads to Kolkata, India then crosses the rest of the Indian Ocean to Nairobi, Kenya (the Xinhua map does not include a stop in Sri Lanka, despite indications in February that the island country would be a part of the Maritime Silk Road). From Nairobi, the Maritime Silk Road goes north around the Horn of Africa and moves through the Red Sea into the Mediterranean, with a stop in Athens before meeting the land-based Silk Road in Venice.

The maps of the two Silk Roads drive home the enormous scale of the project: the Silk Road and Maritime Silk Road combined will create a massive loop linking three continents. If any single image conveys China’s ambitions to reclaim its place as the “Middle Kingdom,” linked to the world by trade and cultural exchanges, the Xinhua map is it. Even the name of the project, the Silk Road, is inextricably linked to China’s past as a source of goods and information for the rest of the world.

China’s economic vision is no less expansive than the geographic vision. According to the Xinhua article, the Silk Roadwill bring “new opportunities and a new future to China and every country along the road that is seeking to develop.” The article envisions an “economic cooperation area” that stretches from the Western Pacific to the Baltic Sea.”Shannon Tiezzi, China’s ‘New Silk Road’ Vision Revealed, The Diplomat

Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank

China and 20 other Asian countries have signed a memorandum of understanding (MOU) to establish a new multilateral development bank, the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB). The AIIB was proposed by China and is considered to be a serious challenge to the World Bank and the Asian Development Bank (ADB),
China, who will be the largest shareholder with a stake of up to 50%, will also provide the AIIB’s first president - the bank’s headquarters will be in Beijing.

The AIIB will serve China well by:
Helping China invest a large part of its foreign exchange reserves (US$3.9 trillion) on commercial terms.
Playing a vital role in the internationalization of the yuan.
There are many Asian countries that have a significant and unmet need for infrastructure investment to lay the foundation for long-term economic growth. The AIIB acts as a complement to China’s already existing and rapidly increasing bilateral development financing.
The 21 member countries of the new Asian Infrastructure Investment Bankare: Bangladesh, Brunei, Cambodia, China, India, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Laos, Malaysia, Mongolia, Myanmar, Nepal, Oman, Pakistan, the Philippines, Qatar, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Uzbekistan and Vietnam.

By fostering growth and encouraging cooperation between OSC members, and future members, by establishing a development/infrastructure orientated bank and by developing its Silk Road Economic Belt as well as the Maritime Silk Road with other Asian states, China will place itself in a much stronger position (as the Asian heavyweight) to lead in the ‘Asian century.’

Internationalization of the Chinese currency

“Since the late-2000s, the People's Republic of China (PBC) has sought to internationalize its official currency, the Renminbi (RMB). The RMB Internationalization accelerated in 2009 when China established dim sum bond market and expanded Cross-Border Trade RMB Settlement Pilot Project, which helps establish pools of offshore RMB liquidity. By 2013, the RMB is the 8th most traded currency in the world. As of May 2014[update], 1.47% of world payments was settled in RMB, which ranked RMB as the 7th most traded currency in the world.” Wikipedia

From The Diplomat we get the following…

“…China’s global integration is no longer limited to trade, but is fast spilling over into the realm of finance.
The establishment of the Shanghai FTZ is expected to provide a boost to the city’s ambitions of becoming a full-fledged international financial center by 2020. While the FTZ was formally approved in August this year, the draft plans pointing towards full convertibility of the RMB within Shanghai were revealed more recently. This comes on top of other plans to liberalize trade, interest rates and the establishment of foreign and joint venture banks in the Shanghai FTZ. Already, foreign banks such as HSBC, Standard Chartered and Citibank have expressed interest in setting up branches in the Shanghai FTZ.

Importantly, the success of allowing RMB convertibility within the Shanghai FTZ will enable the Chinese government to gradually liberalize the RMB at the national level. This is in line with its plans to make the RMB a global reserve currency, with Shanghai potentially becoming a major center for RMB trade. However, plans to liberalize currency controls within the Shanghai FTZ are merely part of an overarching RMB strategy.

As early as 2004, China had tapped Hong Kong to become an offshore RMB center, designating the Bank of China Hong Kong as an RMB clearing bank. This was followed by announcements in 2009 that London would follow suit. By mid-2012, both Hong Kong and London had become offshore RMB centers catering to a variety of institutions and enterprises. Singapore was next in 2013, with the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China designated as the RMB clearing bank in the city-state. Plans to liberalize currency controls within the FTZ suggest that Shanghai will become the fourth city to facilitate the RMB’s internationalization, albeit as an onshore center.

Through the establishment of the three offshore RMB centers and full RMB convertibility in Shanghai, China can now encourage RMB use in several key markets. First, London provides an important bridge to European markets. Similarly, Singapore connects the emerging Southeast Asian economies to RMB funds and trade settlements. Given Hong Kong’s highly internationalized financial sector, it plays a particularly important role in connecting China to the rest of the world. This is a role that will be shared by Shanghai, with its pending emergence as an international financial center. As such, these four cities represent nodes through which China can expand its participation in global financial markets and encourage RMB trade and use.”

The first ever Renminbi sovereign bond will be issued by the UK Treasury.
The International Monetary Fund (IMF) is going to review the composition of its Special Drawing Right (SDR) monetary unit. It’s very possible that since the Chinese currency has met a sufficient number of standards for convertibility it will be become one of the constituent parts of the SDR, joining the dollar, the euro, yen and sterling.

Golden Dragon

In 2013 China was officially crowned the world’s largest gold market
accounting for around a third of global gold demand. Consumer demand soared 32 percent to 1,066 tonnes (up 160% from five years ago) of gold in the form of bars, coins and jewelry topping India’s 2010 record of 1,007 tonnes.

Note - India has once again overtaken China as the world's biggest gold consumer, buying 225.1 tonnes of gold jewellery, coins and bars Q3 2014, compared to 182.7 tonnes in China.
China is the world’s top producer of gold, mining 437 tonnes in 2013, with the largest annual increase globally for 2013. Gold production in China, over the last decade, has more than doubled as the country produced 6,827,000 ounces of gold in 2004. In 2014, gold production estimates are expected to be around 14.5 million ounces. The Chinese keep all of the gold they mineand the export of gold bullion is banned.

SGE & CGSE
The Shanghai Gold Exchange (SGE) was launched in September 2014 inside the city’s free-trade zone. The Chinese government backed SGE offers yuan-denominated contracts backed by gold held in Shanghai.The SGE currently has a network of 58 certified vaults, 55 of which are for storing gold and three that store silver.
The Shanghai Gold Exchange launched its International Board gold trading platform Sept. 29, 2014.

Forty members, including global banks UBS, Goldman Sachs, HSBC and Standard Chartered, will participate in trading eleven yuan denominated physical gold contracts including: 12.5 kg (400 oz) bar, 1 kg bar and a 100 gram contract.

The Chinese Gold and Silver Society (CGSE) has received permission from the Chinese government to build a new precious metals vault in Qianhai. The CGSE is the first non-mainland entity to be given such permission. The CGSE’s vaulting facility will have a 1,500 tonne capacity and will be completed by late 2016 or early 2017.

“Singapore continues its push to be a global gold hub. Further details emerged on the weekend about the planned launch by Singapore of a new 1kg physically deliverable gold contract for the Asian wholesale gold market.

This new gold contract differs from others in that as well as acting as a price discovery benchmark for 1kg gold bars in the Asian region, it has been specifically designed to actually deliver gold to wholesalers, because settlement of the contract is in gold 1kg bars and not in cash. A 1kg gold bar is 32.15 troy ounces.

The Singapore contract will be in lots of 25 kgs, denominated in US dollars, and it will trade for three hours in the Singapore morning time. Singapore is 7 hours ahead of London and 12 hours ahead of New York, and 2.5 hours ahead of the Indian market, but is in the same time zone as both Hong Kong and Shanghai.The US based CME Group who run the Comex gold futures exchange in New York and also host the new LBMA Silver Price auction in London have also announced plans for a new 1kg gold product in Hong Kong.

The CME’s new Hong Kong 1kg product is a US dollar denominated gold futures contract. It will trade on the Comex in New York and not in Hong Kong, but it will be settled and deliverable in Hong Kong at exchange-approved vaults. This is significantly different to the SGX physically deliverable 1kg gold contract in Singapore.” SprottMoney

The following graph show where Switzerland’s (Switzerland is a global hub for gold refining, with more than two-thirds of global gold transiting through the country)gold comes from and where it goes.
A great percentage of the West’s gold has hemorrhaged East and continues to do so. The top five countries getting mostly U.S & UK gold out of Switzerland are Hong Kong, China, India, Singapore and Saudi-Arabia.Asia accounted for 63 percent of total consumption of gold jewelry, bars and coins last year, up from 57 percent in 2010.
China is also importing massive volumes of gold from Hong Kong.

Per capita gold holdings in China are five grams compared to a developed nation 20 gram average.

Conclusion

China’s commercial, economic and financial focus is now centered on Asia.
“Beijing has learned to incorporate regionalization as an effective approach and embrace regional institutions as important platforms to advance China’s economic, political and strategic interests. Regionalization now plays an increasingly significant role in China’s overall foreign policy strategy that aims to maintain a peaceful and stable environment for its long=term economic development.” Dr. Emilian,China and the Global Politics of Regionalization

A regional currency is needed, in Asia gold is synonymous with moneyso China makes all the moves necessary to dominate the global gold market.

The internationalization of the Chinese currency means acceptance on a global scale.
FACT -The importance of gold as an investment, and as a backing to its currency, is being signaled by the Chinese authorities.
FACT- When China succeeds in establishing a Chinese Asian gold standard, it will propel gold pricesto new heights.
China and the SCO, while rejecting western dominated financial institutions and a U.S. inspired status quo, are increasingly embracing a regional coordination of Asian economic and security concerns. An Asian gold standard should be on all precious metal investors radar screens. It’s on my screen, is it on yours?
If not, maybe it should be.

China's Golden Strategy | Investing.com
 
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It seems China is ready to gamble all it fortune to counter US's Asia Pivot & TTP:

-Massive scale of High speed rail to boost China provinces and inter cities interconnectivity
-Omni direction silk roads to South East Asia, South Asia, Central Asia, Midle east and Europe
-Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, Internationalization of the Chinese currency
-Free trade agreement with other Asian nations

Asian Regionalization become a key word to American's Asian Pivot and we will see the zero sum game between China and US, who shall prevail.
 
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China is undoubtedly on the raise, and I am happy to see the lives of 1.3 billion (1/5 of the earth population) are steadily improving.

We are not playing a zero sum game. With the improvement in technology and human productivity, I can see an increasingly prosper China co-existing with the US.

China’s ascension would not be silky smooth since it has to break the status quo of the current world order, but this doesn’t mean it has to be violent either.
 
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They (U.S) jump in (Asia) ... We (China) walk out (whole world) ... Strategy DOWN & UP !

Sure, Sino-America we r together ... :whistle:
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We are not playing a zero sum game. With the improvement in technology and human productivity, I can see an increasingly prosper China co-existing with the US.

Let's put this way: A relatively declining US co-existing with China. That's how we would like the future to shape. The world is not the US only and China can just do well with or without having to co-exist with the US.

China did not co-exist with you on many global matters, and has not so, either, and it is just as strong.

If you want to talk to China, you should first get rid of that exceptionalist and West-centric view point.

Brics GDP bigger than G7 in purchasing power: Putin
November 14, 2014


Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday said Moscow wants to work with other countries to “remove the imbalances in the global economy”.

In Vladivostok on Friday, Putin said the GDP of the BRICS countries calculated at the purchasing power parity is greater than that of the G7, the Group of major industrialized nations.

“As far as I know, the GDP of BRICS is $37.4 trillion, while that of the G7 is $34.5 trillion. And if we go and say: ‘No, thank you, we are going to do this and that here on our own, and you can do it the way you want it,’ this will only add to the imbalances. If we are really set to resolve some issues, we should do that together,” he told Russian agency Itar Tass.

The leaders of the BRICS states (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa) will meet on the sidelines of a G20 summit in Brisbane, Australia this weekend to further boost political and economic ties between the group.

On Friday, the Russian President also said Moscow is consciously making a concerted attempt in reducing dollar dependence for Russian trade, pledging that Russia will make greater use of settlements in ruble and yuan in its trade with China.

“We’re moving away from the diktat of the market that denominates all commercial oil flows in US dollars. We’re encouraging in every way the use of national currencies – both the ruble and the yuan,” he said on Friday.

Earlier in a meeting with his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping in Beijing this week, Putin said Russia supports China’s efforts to promote the international use of yuan and make it a global reserve currency.

“China is one of our key partners in the Asia-Pacific region… We are already carrying out our first deals in ruble and yuan. We are ready to extend such possibilities to trade in the energy sector too,” Putin said.

Both Russia and China have stressed that the world financial system is still dominated by the US dollar and is in need of a more diversified mechanism to reduce reliance on a single currency.

Russia and China have signed 17 agreements on Sunday after Presidents Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping met in Beijing.

Russian state oil giant Rosneft and Chinese oil major CNPC also signed an agreement on Sunday to sell 10 per cent of shares in Rosneft’s subsidiary Vankorneft to China National Oil and Gas Exploration and Development.

“But we are also making arrangements on selling oil from that deposit, which is actually huge, for the yuans,” said Putin on Friday referring to the deal.

The Russian and Chinese central banks have recently agreed on a draft currency swap agreement, which will allow them to increase trade in domestic currencies and cut the dependence on the US dollar in bilateral payments.

A Bloomberg report says the yuan-ruble trade on the Moscow Exchange has jumped 10-fold this year to $749 million in August.

Earlier in September, Moscow and Beijing have entered into a pact to boost use of the rouble and yuan for trade transactions.

Earlier this year in the Brazilian city of Fortaleza, BRICS heads of state agreed to establish a $100 billion New Development Bank (NDB) at their summit meeting, with severe implications for the global development-finance landscape.

The five countries have also created a $100 billion Contingency Reserve Arrangement (CRA), meant to provide additional liquidity protection to member countries during balance of payments problems.

TBP

Brics GDP bigger than G7 in purchasing power: Putin | The BRICS Post
 
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"Asian Regionalization become a key word to American's Asian Pivot and we will see the zero sum game between China and US, who shall prevail."
Might take a while but China will.Of course will not be smooth sailing-certain exceptional nation will do its best if not stop at least to significantly slow the process. At its own country even now is very powerful.Now add support from their partners BRICS/SCO and various other regional organizations.China has lots to offer to any country wiling to cooperate.Ah yeah unlike certain country China does not interfere in internal affairs of other countries in the region..In contrast to China USA has nothing to offer to Asian countries apart from financial fraud,wars,death,destruction,spying,interference,drones ...Asian countries will side and work jointly with China,even USA allies one by one will switch sides.
 
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This reminds me back in the elementary school days where few new kids were trying to challenge the “king" of the playground. There was a lot of unease and there might even be few bloody noises. At the end of the year, guess what, we all graduated to middle school. When we think back the good old days today, everyone just can’t stop laugh about the silly stuff we use to do to each other.

It takes the US 250 years and China more than 70 years after WWII to reach where we all standing right now. Despite the few differences here and there, the overall relation between the US and China is overall peaceful and in harmony.

If all we focus on are the negativities, after a while all we see would be the negative image of the other side.

There is so much we can achieve through cooperation, and we should never forgot about that. On daily basis, the amount of cooperation between the US and China far outstrips the little difference many people keep focus on.
 
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It takes the US 250 years and China more than 70 years after WWII to reach where we all standing right now. Despite the few differences here and there, the overall relation between the US and China is overall peaceful and in harmony.

It is a cold peace at best as the two nations are strategically are on a grand competition.

If all we focus on are the negativities, after a while all we see would be the negative image of the other side.

Tell that to your media. Lecturing us will not cut a cake.

There is so much we can achieve through cooperation, and we should never forgot about that. On daily basis, the amount of cooperation between the US and China far outstrips the little difference many people keep focus on.

Little differences. Let's see:

1. The military pivot to Asia to surround China
2. Large scale spying on China and Chinese nationals
3. Banning Chinese firms from acquisitions of strategic sectors
4. Indicting 5 PLA generals with spying
5. Ding everything to alienate Taiwan further from China's sphere
6. Stationing some 60.000 soldiers trained to attack China
7. Running a media that badmouth China 27/7
8. Sending nuclear capable air crafts to China's ADIZ
9. Pulling out a TPP to economically counter and encircle China
10. Providing ideological and financial support to every single anti-China organization in China, including Taiwan, Tibet, Xinjiang and Hong Kong.
11. Harming China's interests in Sudan by actively supporting separatism and division of the country
etc.

Well, these are not minor issues for China.
 
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It is a cold peace at best as the two nations are strategically are on a grand competition.



Tell that to your media. Lecturing us will not cut a cake.



Little differences. Let's see:

1. The military pivot to Asia to surround China
2. Large scale spying on China and Chinese nationals
3. Banning Chinese firms from acquisitions of strategic sectors
4. Indicting 5 PLA generals with spying
5. Ding everything to alienate Taiwan further from China's sphere
6. Stationing some 60.000 soldiers trained to attack China
7. Running a media that badmouth China 27/7
8. Sending nuclear capable air crafts to China's ADIZ
9. Pulling out a TPP to economically counter and encircle China
10. Providing ideological and financial support to every single anti-China organization in China, including Taiwan, Tibet, Xinjiang and Hong Kong.
11. Harming China's interests in Sudan by actively supporting separatism and division of the country
etc.

Well, these are not minor issues for China.


All these concerns you are giving are not incorrect, and I am sure you would be able to list more than 11. I have to agree with you they are not minor issues. Fortunately what goes between the US and China are not just the above examples you have listed. The cooperation (excluding in the defense industry) in medical, financial, manufacturing, agricultures, and much more between the US and China far greater than the differences you just listed.

I am not here to convincing you, nor I can offer you any immediate solutions to your concerns. However I do feel a lot of frustration in you.

I am a realist. My influence over my government is not much more than what you could persuade yours to do. At the end of the day, what your and my government decide to do to each other may be mostly out of your and my hands. As far as I know, there dark and light exist in both governments.

Despite what I just said, this does not mean as individuals we cannot use our knowledge to bridge the differences in our societies. If all we focus on are the negativities, then soon or later all we know or perceive would all be the negativities.

To give you an perfect example here. I am very impressed with China's high speed rail system (one main reason why I am on this forum), and the safety record is actually very superb. However if all CNN and Fox News focus was the Wenzhou incident back few years ago, people would never get a chance to appreciate how great the system is. What I am trying to ask you to do is perhaps not to be the CNN or Fox News on the other side.
 
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I am not here to convincing you, nor I can offer you any immediate solutions to your concerns. However I do feel a lot of frustration in you.

No frustration on my part as I am confident of the route China takes and pretty much satisfied with the performance of the nation so far. I am just pragmatist to the realities on the ground. They are not concerns; these are facts. Do not take it as whining. Thus China expects no solution on your part to these facts as the nation is strong enough to take care of its own business.

Despite what I just said, this does not mean as individuals we cannot use our knowledge to bridge the differences in our societies. If all we focus on are the negativities, then soon or later all we know or perceive would all be the negativities.

That's I agree on. As long as people on both sides respect the laws of the nation they do business with, we are fine. No reason to hate any particular people. But, people and government are two different animals. Our governments are nowhere to be friendly due to various geopolitical reasons.

However if all CNN and Fox News focus was the Wenzhou incident back few years ago, people would never get a chance to appreciate how great the system is. What I am trying to ask you to do is perhaps not to be the CNN or Fox News on the other side

We do not care what is going on in your country. Hence, you will not see much obsession with anti-US news in China -- unlike the vice versa. China is pretty much a focused nation and the noise CNN and the likes make is ignored and not even noticed in most cases. Do not take PDF for anything as reflective of anything.

US is just one of the countries, albeit an important one. But China is the world's largest trading nation and has a much wider scope and no fixture. You may train your media, however, although I am not sure you are capable of doing that.
 
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No frustration on my part as I am confident of the route China takes and pretty much satisfied with the performance of the nation so far. I am just pragmatist to the realities on the ground. They are not concerns; these are facts. Do not take it as whining. Thus China expects no solution on your part to these facts as the nation is strong enough to take care of its own business.



That's I agree on. As long as people on both sides respect the laws of the nation they do business with, we are fine. No reason to hate any particular people. But, people and government are two different animals. Our governments are nowhere to be friendly due to various geopolitical reasons.



We do not care what is going on in your country. Hence, you will not see much obsession with anti-US news in China -- unlike the vice versa. China is pretty much a focused nation and the noise CNN and the likes make is ignored and not even noticed in most cases. Do not take PDF for anything as reflective of anything.

US is just one of the countries, albeit an important one. But China is the world's largest trading nation and has a much wider scope and no fixture. You may train your media, however, although I am not sure you are capable of doing that.


You are grossly misinterpreted what I just wrote, especially my last paragraph. By judging the way you write, I think your English is decent. Perhaps you are reading a bit of too fast, which was why it was affecting the comprehension a little bit.
 
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You are grossly misinterpreted what I just wrote, especially my last paragraph. By judging the way you write, I think your English is decent. Perhaps you are reading a bit of too fast, which was why it was affecting the comprehension a little bit.

You are definitely free to believe whatever you want. This is not a missionary forum with a single reality.
 
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You are definitely free to believe whatever you want. This is not a missionary forum with a single reality.

TaiShang, You have completely lost me. You keep replying unrelated facts that was not even related to my post most of the time. Now I am a little frustrated regarding your comprehension skill. Our conversation regarding this topic will end here for now.

For all the other people who are reading this typic, I wish a strong relation between the US and China.

I will Re-post what I wrote above prior to derailed by TaiShang


This reminds me back in the elementary school days where few new kids were trying to challenge the “king" of the playground. There was a lot of unease and there might even be few bloody noises. At the end of the year, guess what, we all graduated to middle school. When we think back the good old days today, everyone just can’t stop laugh about the silly stuff we use to do to each other.

It takes the US 250 years and China more than 70 years after WWII to reach where we all standing right now. Despite the few differences here and there, the overall relation between the US and China is overall peaceful and in harmony.

If all we focus on are the negativities, after a while all we see would be the negative image of the other side.

There is so much we can achieve through cooperation, and we should never forgot about that. On daily basis, the amount of cooperation between the US and China far outstrips the little difference many people keep focus on.
 
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It seems China is ready to gamble all it fortune to counter US's Asia Pivot & TTP:

-Massive scale of High speed rail to boost China provinces and inter cities interconnectivity
-Omni direction silk roads to South East Asia, South Asia, Central Asia, Midle east and Europe
-Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, Internationalization of the Chinese currency
-Free trade agreement with other Asian nations

Asian Regionalization become a key word to American's Asian Pivot and we will see the zero sum game between China and US, who shall prevail.
TPP will come to realty soon, China will lose lots of customers. U got bad Q3 report, and ur economy surely will get even worse.

Bad end for poor Ah Q as usual :pop:
 
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TaiShang, You have completely lost me. You keep replying unrelated facts that was not even related to my post most of the time. Now I am a little frustrated regarding your comprehension skill. Our conversation regarding this topic will end here for now.

As I said, my friend, you are free to whatever you want to believe in. It just fits you well to question someone's comprehension skills before even questioning your own, which, in fact, reinforces my own conviction on the vision of the US of others.

I will not bring your mental capabilities in question as you seem yo have a fixture, which does away with any chance of improvement.

I will offer counterpoints to your convictions as I deem fit.

On a side note, I respect your optimism.
 
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