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Analysis - China's aircraft carrier: in name only

By David Lague
Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:28am BST
(Reuters) - When Japanese activists scrambled ashore on a disputed island chain in the East China Sea this month, one of China's most hawkish military commentators proposed an uncharacteristically mild response.

Retired Major General Luo Yuan suggested naming China's new aircraft carrier Diaoyu, after the Diaoyu islands in the East China Sea. It would demonstrate China's sovereignty over the islands known as the Senkakus in Japanese, he said.

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For a notable hardliner, it was one of the least bellicose reactions he has advocated throughout a series of territorial rows that have soured China's ties with its neighbours in recent months.

More typical was General Luo's warning in April that the Chinese navy would "strike hard" if provoked during a dispute with the Philippines over Scarborough Shoal in the South China Sea.

One possible reason for General Luo's restraint, military analysts say, is he knows it could be towards the end of the decade before China can actually deploy the new carrier to the disputed islands or any other trouble spot.

Despite public anticipation in China that the carrier -- a refitted, Soviet-era vessel bought from Ukraine -- will soon become the flagship of a powerful navy, defence experts say it lacks the strike aircraft, weapons, electronics, training and logistical support it needs to become a fighting warship.

"There is considerable uncertainty involved, but it could take anything from three to five years," said Carlo Kopp, the Melbourne, Australia based co-founder of Air Power Australia, an independent military think tank.

SEA TRIALS

The refitted carrier, commonly known by its original name, Varyag, returned to Dalian in northeast China last month after its ninth sea trial, according to reports in the official Chinese media.

Some Chinese military researchers had speculated earlier that it would be commissioned into the navy this year.

However, senior People's Liberation Army officers have played down these expectations, making it clear the 60,000-tonne carrier was far from operational readiness and would undergo an extensive schedule of trials and exercises.

"The Great Wall wasn't built in a day," Colonel Lin Bai from the General Armaments Department, was quoted as saying on official government news websites after the Varyag returned to port.

Even when the Varyag is operational, it will only have a limited operational role, mostly for training and evaluation ahead of the anticipated launch of China's first domestically built carriers after 2015, military analysts say.

Reports in unofficial Chinese military blogs and websites say China planned to build these carriers at Jiangnan Shipyard's Chanxing Island shipbuilding base near Shanghai.

However, professional and amateur analysts who study satellite images of Chinese shipyards have been unable to find any evidence of construction.

In its annual report on the Chinese military published earlier this year, the Pentagon said construction may have started on some components of the indigenous carriers.

SYMBOL OF BUILD-UP

While an effective carrier may be years away, the program has become a symbol of China's three-decade long build-up that has seen a sprawling land-based force with largely obsolete weapons transformed into a trimmed down, better trained military with modern warships and submarines, strike aircraft and an arsenal of precision missiles.

For the Chinese navy, the addition of carriers has been a top priority as it builds a force capable of deploying far from the Chinese mainland.

Senior commanders have long argued these warships would enhance Beijing's capacity to enforce claims over Taiwan and hotly disputed territories in the South China Sea and East China Sea.

Chinese military analysts have speculated the Varyag will be based at China's new naval base at Yalong on the southern tip of Hainan Island, close to the disputed Spratley and Paracel Island groups.

Carriers and their long-range strike aircraft would also enhance the PLA's capacity to protect key sea lanes that carry China's massive foreign trade, they say.

The commissioning of complex and expensive warships has considerable domestic propaganda value for the ruling Communist Party as a demonstration that China is becoming a top-ranked naval power.

The U.S. Navy's fleet of 11 nuclear-powered aircraft carriers allow it to control vast areas of the earth's surface and airspace. Only a handful of other nations including Britain, France, India and Russia deploy militarily effective carriers.

"Aircraft carriers are incomparable and cannot be replaced by other weapons," wrote Senior Captain Li Jie, a researcher at the Chinese Naval Research Institute in an August 21 commentary published on websites linked to the Chinese military. "If a big power wants to become a strong power, it has to develop aircraft carriers."

CLOSING TECHNOLOGICAL GAP

China originally bought the Varyag in 1998 claiming it wanted to turn the ship, which had been stripped of its engines and anything of military value, into a "floating casino". The extended period of trials and preparations for the carrier suggests it has yet to get it on a wartime footing, let alone close the technological gap with more advanced navies.

One major challenge China faces is building a fleet of specialized fixed wing aircraft and helicopters to operate from a carrier's flight deck.

China is working on developing a new strike aircraft, designated the J-15, that appears to be a reverse-engineered version of Russia's Su-33 fighter, according to photographs and video footage published on Chinese websites.

The Su-33 is the Russian jet that would have flown from the carrier if it had joined the Soviet navy.

China already has fully imported and domestically built versions of similar Russian fighters, but experts say adapting flight control software, avionics, weapons, radars and airframes for much more demanding carrier operations is complex and expensive.

"There are a whole range of engineering and operational tasks the Chinese need to work through before they have an aircraft they can reliably operate from a carrier," says Kopp, who studied China's aircraft carrier aviation program for a research paper his think tank published earlier this year.

What appeared to be a mock-up of the J-15 was seen on the Varyag's flight deck when it berthed at Dalian last month.

The Chinese navy is also short of helicopters for anti-submarine warfare, airborne early warning and search and rescue missions, according to Chinese and Western military analysts.

CARRIER STRATEGY

It also will need to develop a strategy and doctrine for deploying and protecting the carrier on missions far from the Chinese coast, they say. U.S. carriers rely on a screen of supporting surface warships, supply vessels and nuclear attack submarines for protection.

China's determination to operate carriers is sending a strong signal about its determination to enforce its territorial claims, analysts say.

In a study on China's maritime strategy published earlier this year, Japan's National Institute of Defence Studies, the Japanese military's policy research arm, said basing China's first aircraft carrier at Hainan would shift the balance of power in an area of intense territorial competition.

"Should the Varyag be deployed to the South China Fleet, it would enable China to demonstrate its dominant naval power to the disputing states, which in the end could trigger a new arms race in the region," the study said.

(Reporting By David Lague; editing by Bill Tarrant)

Analysis - China's aircraft carrier: in name only | Reuters
 
Thats what chinese were told son , by Xinhua ;)
Yes it's totally a cover story since the ship sunk after sailing out to sea. All the images you see in the past two weeks are CG. Does that help you sleep at night?
 
A Decent Luxury Hotel :coffee: is the right term to use. According to PLAAN luxury Cruise ships also can be used for war, they don't see any difference between civilians and soldiers, human life is expendable and free of cost according to CCP ideology.
It's painted in navy colours, flying a military flag, carrying armaments and with a naval number "16" designation painted on both sides of the hull as well as the deck. I'm starting to think you can't tell the difference between a canoe and a carrier.

Or maybe you're just suffering from the "Indian Sour Grape Syndrome".
 
Varyag is still useful as it initiates the operational structure and training of the officers. They have lot to learn and within 3 to 5 years, they can get the operational readiness against potent force. Even if we count out the above mentioned factors, I think its fulfilling many purposes as of nw.

With more ACC being build by China, it seems better to have something than nothing and trained officers ready to be stationed on new ones. Its a constant learning process and timing means a lot.
 
it has installed RAM-alike air defence system, AESA radar, i think its doing well, and if there is a war between India and China, i dont think there will be a naval warfare, because China simply got couples of DF-31 position with 1Mt thermonuclear warhead each of them, those warhead will reach India within 15 mins, its fast and cheap. i dont see for what reason ccp would make it more complicated than a ballistic warfare.
 
Didn't some of these "experts" also say that ex-Varyag wouldn't have a engine then they say it wouldn't have a arrestor system ?
 
"Every great journey begins with a single step....." Of course the PLAN are not in a postion to challenge the USN wrt ACCs right now but we are seeing baby steps right now and given how inventive and effiecent the Chinese can be the future could look very different. In about a decade when the PLAN has a sound cadre of naval personal drilled in carrier ops then the PLAN can start to build agressvily on the ACC front. The only hurdles I can see is learning to build an ACC from scratch with little to no outside assitence. Given the Chinese did all of the renovation on the Varyag themselves this shouldn't be a huge issue and whilst it might take longer than others it will be done.

Good luck to the PLAN!
 
cant china buy a few of those from Russian company called "the indeginous" like India does, i meant chinese have 10 times more money than India
 
Why anyone needs a carrier when you can all these ridding shotguns. :china::china::china::china::china::china::china:


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cant china buy a few of those from Russian company called "the indeginous" like India does, i meant chinese have 10 times more money than India

Atleast we donot have to buy from north korea ..........
 

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