China's 12000 - ton coastguard ship will be arrived in the south China sea.

[TaiShang]

This freshly minted Type 718B CCG 46111 is even better for chasing and ramming villains in the SCS

Looks though a new wave of shipbuilding for the CCG is on the way。

Beautiful. Keeps potential sea pirates in check.

 

[Genesis]

That was not my claim, I really wanted to know why they want such a huge ship. I was expecting you to answer that, thanks anyway.

Prestige, mostly. It doesn't have a real purpose, I mean a real coast guard purpose. The bulk of the work will be done by the other hundreds of ships in the coast guard.

The fact of the matter is China is already stronger than all these states put together, easily, but what is lacking is prestige, hence this is made.

 

[SBUS-CXK]

But our toy made by licence of Russia (included origin russia missiles) quality is better than yours, products made in China,

Oh, Sir, if you keep an eye on international affairs, you will find that Russia tried to purchase China's 054a frigate.

By the way, the Russian "thugs" 21631 light frigate USES the engine from China. China CHD622V20 engine.

 

[Viet]

VPN warships .

"very low sucks",sometimes i was shocked by your imagination.

So in this thread if you use 'bang' and 'low', and other Chinese poster 'fck' and 'torture', then it is ok. But if I use 'low' and 'sucks' not?

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

VLS=very low sucks?

Is that the best you can come up with? It doesn't even make sense!

So in this thread if you use 'bang' and 'low', and other Chinese poster 'fck' and 'torture', then it is ok. But if I use 'low' and 'sucks' not?

Its the poor acronym that people are shocked by, not the profanity. I swear here all the time and get punished very rarely.

Seriously, 'very low sucks'?

Such a poor acronym puts you in the 'Viet Loser Squad'.

 

[jhungary]

That was not my claim, I really wanted to know why they want such a huge ship. I was expecting you to answer that, thanks anyway.

Depending on many factors.....

Coast Guard have 2 main jobs, one is Law Enforcement within your territorial water and EEZ, where the other one is Search and Rescue.

In term of USCG, they needed both type of ship, a fast patrol ship that can reach your destination quick and chase off or pursuit illegal activities within your EEZ. Also the USCG needed high endurance cutter to serve near north pole in artic and near artic condition.

For China, since they don't have the artic condition to consider (Like US, Russia, Norway) Any big ship is there for show.




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[nang2]

Depending on many factors.....

Coast Guard have 2 main jobs, one is Law Enforcement within your territorial water and EEZ, where the other one is Search and Rescue.

In term of USCG, they needed both type of ship, a fast patrol ship that can reach your destination quick and chase off or pursuit illegal activities within your EEZ. Also the USCG needed high endurance cutter to serve near north pole in artic and near artic condition.

For China, since they don't have the artic condition to consider (Like US, Russia, Norway) Any big ship is there for show.




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Not for show, for bump. Size matters in this game.

 

[illuminatidinesh]

Depending on many factors.....

Coast Guard have 2 main jobs, one is Law Enforcement within your territorial water and EEZ, where the other one is Search and Rescue.

In term of USCG, they needed both type of ship, a fast patrol ship that can reach your destination quick and chase off or pursuit illegal activities within your EEZ. Also the USCG needed high endurance cutter to serve near north pole in artic and near artic condition.

For China, since they don't have the artic condition to consider (Like US, Russia, Norway) Any big ship is there for show.

Artic cutter was the first thing came to my mind however as you pointed out they dont have any region. I was just thinking doesnt size compromise speed? I mean they can do the same with couple of thousand less tonnage.

 

[jhungary]

Not for show, for bump. Size matters in this game.

actually, size works AGAINST ramming ship.......

You are talking about bulkhead structuring, momentum and structural integrity, A large ship with many compartment (since it is bigger) would be harder to compress against a smaller target. in case of ramming, a smaller ship with sharper bow would be works a lot better than a big ship with large turning circle .

Try to think of it like this, you are on a bus and I am on a taxi, would you think you would be able to ram me if we are in open road? You don't mauver as quicker as I could, I can get away a lot quicker than you can turn into me and ram me. You seems to forget, you have to be able to catch me before you can ram me. And if you are on a bigger ship with less room for you to maneuverer, how are you going to catch up with me??

Also, a careful hit of a smaller ship can punch a hole into a larger ship and if you really do know your naval engineering, a calculated hit can disable or even sink a ship, CG ship lack protection power, so if a smaller ship can maneuverer to that point so that they can make a critical impact, this would not be a nice scenario in a big ship.

My cousin is a serving senior chief of the USCG. We talked about this months ago.

Artic cutter was the first thing came to my mind however as you pointed out they dont have any region. I was just thinking doesnt size compromise speed? I mean they can do the same with couple of thousand less tonnage.

yes, size does not work on ramming, unless you have 2 or 3 small ship to slow down or box up your target, how are you going to chase and caught up to a small ship if you are in a big ship? US Coast Guard Ram other people with smaller cutter, larger cutter also used to ram, but only to iceberg in artic ocean (Hence they need to be big) also they need to be staying in the icy water for longer, so big ship come naturally.

Of course, if you are in a big ship, it will only take you 1 ram to disable a smaller ship, but how did you get to that Ram is another problem. It's like for a 18 wheeler to disable a SUV, you only have to crash into it once, but chances are, that big rig won't be able to get close to that SUV in the first place to ram it.

 

[nang2]

actually, size works AGAINST ramming ship.......

You are talking about bulkhead structuring, momentum and structural integrity, A large ship with many compartment (since it is bigger) would be harder to compress against a smaller target. in case of ramming, a smaller ship with sharper bow would be works a lot better than a big ship with large turning circle .

Try to think of it like this, you are on a bus and I am on a taxi, would you think you would be able to ram me if we are in open road? You don't mauver as quicker as I could, I can get away a lot quicker than you can turn into me and ram me. You seems to forget, you have to be able to catch me before you can ram me. And if you are on a bigger ship with less room for you to maneuverer, how are you going to catch up with me??

Also, a careful hit of a smaller ship can punch a hole into a larger ship and if you really do know your naval engineering, a calculated hit can disable or even sink a ship, CG ship lack protection power, so if a smaller ship can maneuverer to that point so that they can make a critical impact, this would not be a nice scenario in a big ship.

My cousin is a serving senior chief of the USCG. We talked about this months ago.

I don't think big boat works alone. Just like ancient battles, you need tough infantry column to block and fast moving cavalry to flank the enemy.

 

[jhungary]

I don't think big boat works alone. Just like ancient battles, you need tough infantry column to block and fast moving cavalry to flank the enemy.

The question then would be, if you can use small ship to contain your target then why would you want to ram it with the big ship, if the target is already contained?

 

[nang2]

The question then would be, if you can use small ship to contain your target then why would you want to ram it with the big ship, if the target is already contained?

If you want to ram your way through, you will be slowed down. Then the big ship can come in time to ram you off. If you don't ram your way through, small ships achieve the containment purpose. The big ship can just stand by and watch.

 

[jhungary]

If you want to ram your way through, you will be slowed down. Then the big ship can come in time to ram you off. If you don't ram your way through, small ships achieve the containment purpose. The big ship can just stand by and watch.

You don't understand the points.........

You ram someone to slow them down, not to sink them, if your target is already contained by the small ships of yours, then you don't need to ram the target as they are already heaved and contained.

It's like you have 3 goons holding a person down and you come up to that person and punch that dude in his face, if your 3 goons can already hold down your target, you going there and punch that guys in the face is only for show.

That's the same as your big ship/small ship relationship. Your smaller ship have already chased down the target and they would be boarded or search with or without your big ship involved. That means your big ship job is redundant.

 

[Penguin]

This freshly minted Type 718B CCG 46111 is even better for chasing and ramming villains in the SCS

Looks though a new wave of shipbuilding for the CCG is on the way。

I think this (type of) comment says it all. Keep it up. Just rembember, pride comes before a fall.

By Chinese standards, your ship is backward
Look, this is China's exports to Algeria C82A type frigates.

So, why does that have a Dutch radar and French CMS?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Look around look around just a coast guard HUGE ship , nothing to fear


Is it a coast guard ship or destroyer , don't fear just coast guard ship

Bigger is always more roomy and better