China will rewrite the Bible and the Quran to 'reflect socialist values' amid crackdown on Muslim Ui

[Indus Pakistan]

Dude, i think you misunderstood something, im not asking anyone to do anything, i just have a problem with those who want to silence me for reporting the truth.

I have no doubt that this is true. I have no doubt that there is widespread oppression of Uighurs in China. Islam to Chinese is like Greens are to Nazi's. A abomination. Chinese are uber-athiest. They literally are just consumption machinese. They have no soul. The idea of god is alien to them.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I have no doubt that this is true. I have no doubt that there is widespread oppression of Uighurs in China. Islam to Chinese is like Greens are to Nazi's. A abomination. Chinese are uber-athiest. They literally are just consumption machinese. They have no soul. The idea of god is alien to them.

But it's not the problem of Pakistan or Pakistanis and there is NOTHING we can do about it. As Pakistanis, our ONLY objective is to be able to neutralize the indian threat. Nothing MORE. That's it. End of story.

 

[StormBreaker]

So... stripping the meaning of the Quran? so if the Quran say pray and China decide to say "Praying is optional" you will be ok with that?

I think you aren’t getting the point,

First of all God knows what their true intentions are,
But on a best case,
This isn’t a bad step for them as a non muslim state with minorities either.

It is like this, lets say,

Old interpretation to modern,

This hadith below from Sahih muslim suggests the Encouragement of Archery

"None of you should keep away from having fun with his arrows."

But, do we have professional archers now in battlefield? Nope, snipers and other canons/howitzers have replaced them.

This is the transition from old to new in terms of new tech

 

[Antaréss]

the party called for a 'comprehensive evaluation of the existing religious classics aiming at contents which do not conform to the progress of the times'.

Manufacture of bombs, tanks and warplanes is a dead sure sign of not making progress with time. They'd start by dismantling those factories, then God will no longer need to teach us religions.

 

[HannibalBarca]

I think you aren’t getting the point,

First of all God knows what their true intentions are,
But on a best case,
This isn’t a bad step for them as a non muslim state with minorities either.

It is like this, lets say,

Old interpretation to modern,

This hadith below from Sahih muslim suggests the Encouragement of Archery

"None of you should keep away from having fun with his arrows."

But, do we have professional archers now in battlefield? Nope, snipers and other canons/howitzers have replaced them.

This is the transition from old to new in terms of new tech

It's Quran we are speaking of...
And they want to rewrite it... meaning it's Translation...
Interpretation in the other hand... is nothing new, neither weird...

So if The Arabic Quran says "You should pray, give zakat etc..." and the Translation says "You can pray, and can give zakat" The meaning is day and night...
And that goes for every verse... like the "Meaning of Ramadan" or "Follow the teaching of the Prophet and so and so on...

 

[KungFuLee]

FAKE NEWS!...........the source is the "Daily Mail". The same newspaper who also claimed that Iraq had WMD that could destroy Europe in 30 mins. BEWARE of FAKE NEWS!

Actually, it is not fake news.

Chinese Constitution article 36 states that China can apply change to religion if they were to accepted or in other word, "registered" by the government of China. And those change are to make so that they will not impede the political or educational system of China. That is written in Chinese Constitution (like the US constitution under article 36, about freedom of religion)

A lot of changes are done to religion in order to be accepted in China, (like the way and where to practice it) but yes, talking about changing the books are the first time (At least the first time I ever heard of) and it is within their power to do that in order to "prescribe" religion to their people.

I just talked about it with @Indos in whatever section of this forum.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

It's Quran we are speaking of...
And they want to rewrite it... meaning it's Translation...
Interpretation in the other hand... is nothing new, neither weird...

So if The Arabic Quran says "You should pray, give zakat etc..." and the Translation says "You can pray, and can give zakat" The meaning is day and night...
And that goes for every verse... like the "Meaning of Ramadan" or "Follow the teaching of the Prophet and so and so on...

Tough. It's not the problem of Pakistan or Pakistanis and there is NOTHING they can do about it. So END of story. That's life.

Actually, it is not fake news.

Chinese Constitution article 36 states that China can apply change to religion if they were to accepted or in other word, "registered" by the government of China. And those change are to make so that they will not impede the political or educational system of China. That is written in Chinese Constitution (like the US constitution under article 36, about freedom of religion)

A lot of changes are done to religion in order to be accepted in China, (like the way and where to practice it) but yes, talking about changing the books are the first time (At least the first time I ever heard of) and it is within their power to do that in order to "prescribe" religion to their people.

I just talked about it with @Indos in whatever section of this forum.

Fair enough. But it's not the problem of Pakistan or Pakistanis and there is NOTHING they can do about it either. It's tough but it's life. Nothing more.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Tough. It's not the problem of Pakistan or Pakistanis and there is NOTHING they can do about it. So END of story. That's life.

No one asked Pakistan to step in in this thread, I think almost everyone knows that Pakistan can do nothing about it...
But this thread is highlighting China behavior and future project in manipulating a Religion to target a minority...

 

[Rollno21]

That's what the Muslims were doing when they believed that Iraq had WMD that could destroy Europe in 30 mins and watched over 3 million innocent Iraqis get massacred between 2003-2016.

I guess you believe that Iraq had WMD that could destroy Europe in 30 mins.







Tell me, did Iraq have WMD that could destroy Europe in 30 mins?

Forget about wmd which is West propaganda.wont you believe your own people who's spouses are in jail for marrying pakistanies and they requesting the govt to intervene. They must be sellouts.

 

[KungFuLee]

Fair enough. But it's not the problem of Pakistan or Pakistanis and there is NOTHING they can do about it either. It's tough but it's life. Nothing more.

I am not saying anyone can do anything about it, I just say this is not a fake news.

 

[xenon54 out]

No one asked Pakistan to step in in this thread, I think almost everyone knows that Pakistan can do nothing about it...
But this thread is highlighting China behavior and future project in manipulating a Religion to target a minority...

Trying to relativate his behavior towards me nothing else...

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Forget about wmd which is West propaganda.wont you believe your own people who's spouses are in jail for marrying pakistanies and they requesting the govt to intervene. They must be sellouts.

Can you please provide a link to the evidence of your claims. No indian sources please because they are FAKE:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-asia-india-50749764

No one asked Pakistan to step in in this thread, I think almost everyone knows that Pakistan can do nothing about it...
But this thread is highlighting China behavior and future project in manipulating a Religion to target a minority...

So why are you posting it on PDF? Post it somewhere else. We couldn't care less.

 

[xenon54 out]

So why are you posting it on PDF? Post it somewhere else. We couldn't care less.

You obviously care though.
Btw who made you PDF Spokesporson?

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

You obviously care though.

I don't give a damn. I ONLY care about the interests of my nation, my Pakistan. All the other Muslim countries only care about themselves so why can't we?

 

[Rollno21]

Can you please provide a link to the evidence of your claims. No indian sources please because they are FAKE:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-asia-india-50749764






So why are you posting it on PDF? Post it somewhere else. We couldn't care less.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1452064

If you are interested you can look for interviews of the husband's who are Pakistanies.