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BEIJING: China has warned Indian companies from entering into any deal with Vietnamese firms for exploring oil and gas in disputed parts of the South China Sea. The statement might give a new turn to its relationship with India, which has been asking China not to build infrastructure projects in the disputed Pakistan Occupied Kashmir.

"We hope foreign countries will not get involved in the dispute," Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Jiang Yu said ahead of Indian foreign minister SM Krishna's upcoming visit to Hanoi this week.

"For countries outside the region, we hope they will respect and support countries in the region to solve this dispute through bilateral channels," she said while responding to a question concerning ONGC Videsh's plans to explore in two offshore oil blocks that Vietnam claims to be its own.

China enjoyed "indisputable sovereignty" over the South China Sea and its islands, Jiang said.

New Delhi is expected to turn around and ask Beijing why it was allowing Chinese companies to build hydro-electricity and other infrastructure projects in the disputed ***, which India claims to be its own, observers said. Politicians in Pakistan and *** openly discuss Chinese investments in the disputed portion of Kashmir although China has not yet confirmed it.

This is the first time India is getting involved in the sea dispute between China and Vietnam, which has flared up in recent months. New Delhi expected a sharp Chinese reaction to ONGC Videsh's move, and is prepared to handle it, sources said.

India recently said it supported the "freedom of navigation in international waters, including in the South China Sea". The statement came after a Chinese vassel asked INS Airavat to leave "Chinese waters" while it was on a goodwill visit to Vietnam.

"Our consistent position is that we are opposed to any country engaging in oil and gas exploration and development activities in waters under China's jurisdiction," Jiang said.

Vietnam claims it holds rights to the area being explored for oil and gas under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.

Jiang today said the UN convention of 1982 "did not give any country the right to expand their own exclusive economic zone and continental shelf to other countries' territories." The convention, she said, did not negate "a country's right formed in history that has been consistently claimed."


Does it means new low in India- China relation? And I wonder what will be American reaction about this..??
 
India has already responded

China objects to oil hunt, India says back off - Hindustan Times

Beijing’s bid to thwart oil and natural gas exploration in two Vietnamese blocks in the South China Sea by India’s ONGC Videsh Ltd (OVL) has been rebuffed by New Delhi. India’s ministry of external affairs (MEA) said China’s objections have “no legal basis” as the blocks belong to Vietnam.
Beijing had in a demarche — a formal diplomatic representation of a government’s official position — to India stated that unless its permission is taken for exploration in Blocks 127 and 128, OVL’s activities there would be illegal.

“While an appropriate reply has already been given to China’s demarche, the issue is set to be discussed during the visit of external affairs minister SM Krishna to Vietnam on September 16,” an MEA official said.
“The Chinese had concerns but we are going by what the Vietnamese authorities have told us and have conveyed this to the Chinese,” he said.

MEA sources said Vietnam had cited sovereignty rights over Blocks 127 and 128 according to the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, 1982.

There are many potentially oil- and gas-rich islands on the South China Sea, which are facing territorial disputes and where, apart from China, other countries including Vietnam are claimants.

For instance, Vietnam claims rights to the Paracel Islands, which China first occupied in 1974. The Spratly Islands are another area under dispute, with Vietnam and China staking their claims.

In June 2007, UK’s energy major BP abandoned exploration plans in a block between Vietnam and the Spratly Islands, citing ongoing uncertainty over competing ownership claims between Vietnam and China.
 
Well i know India has responded as India is doing this as counter act of China's step to invest in P0K. But I am wondering is Chian giving USA a chance to get more close to India? I am waiting for USA's reaction
 
Jiang today said the UN convention of 1982 "did not give any country the right to expand their own exclusive economic zone and continental shelf to other countries' territories." The convention, she said, did not negate "a country's right formed in history that has been consistently claimed."

Yes, historic claims outweigh international norms and treaties!! What an idiotic statement!! And what a hypocritical stand on the part of the Chinese! Seriously, first they start investing in P0K, issuing stapled visas disregarding Indian concerns and now they want their "sovereignty" over international waters to be respected? Idiots.

Now who is actually being hegemonic here? Bullying, threatening, harassing...... China can be no.1 in whatever it wants to; no1 in military, no1 in economy, no1 in copying and amassing technologies- simple because of a dictatorship party and policies, but what it can never be is a world visionary. The learning curve simply isn't there.
 
Great! Now we know what peeves the Chinese.

"So you stop work in P0K, we stop it in the disputed areas in South China Sea".

Fair enough?
 
Yes, historic claims outweigh international norms and treaties!! What an idiotic statement!! And what a hypocritical stand on the part of the Chinese! Seriously, first they start investing in P0K disregarding Indian concerns and now they want their "sovereignty" over international waters to be respected? Idiots.

Now who is actually being hegemonic here? Bullying, threatening, harassing...... China can be no.1 in whatever it wants to; no1 in military, no1 in economy, no1 in copying and amassing technologies- simple because of a dictatorship party and policies, but what it can never be is a world visionary.

Yeah this kind of behaviour is unacceptable. Kind of like when the US forced India to cease direct payment for Iranian oil. Great powers should never pressure other countries for its own gain.
 
Yeah this kind of behaviour is unacceptable. Kind of like when the US forced India to cease direct payment for Iranian oil. Great powers should never pressure other countries for its own gain.

US didnt force India to cease payments. Source or Planet Uranus spewing hot air here.

Re-read your last statement. A little introspection and critical analysis would help you open your eyes.


Oh wait....."introspection", "critical thinking"....words that are alien to you, no?
 
http://www.defence.pk/forums/india-defence/105755-india-exploring-iran-oil-payment-via-turkey.html

(Reuters) - India is exploring payments via Turkey for oil imports from Iran, an Indian oil ministry source said on Wednesday, as the two countries search for a way to settle their trade after a long standing clearing system was scrapped by New Delhi.

Iran is India's second biggest oil supplier after Saudi Arabia. Iranian supplies to India have not yet been hit, despite India's central bank stopping a clearinghouse system for Iranian crude imports in December, under pressure from the United States.


Spark posted it a while ago


If i recall its because Iran was under UN sanctions, nothing to do with US.

India to pay Iranian oil by sidestepping UN sanctions

Not part of the UN sanctions. Those were weak to the point of ineffectiveness.
 
Weren't china building hydro electric projects and other infrastructure in pakistan administered kashmir?Now they want india to respect disputed status of territories..!
 
http://www.defence.pk/forums/india-defence/105755-india-exploring-iran-oil-payment-via-turkey.html

(Reuters) - India is exploring payments via Turkey for oil imports from Iran, an Indian oil ministry source said on Wednesday, as the two countries search for a way to settle their trade after a long standing clearing system was scrapped by New Delhi.

Iran is India's second biggest oil supplier after Saudi Arabia. Iranian supplies to India have not yet been hit, despite India's central bank stopping a clearinghouse system for Iranian crude imports in December, under pressure from the United States.

Read the second post.
Indian refiners paid 1 bn euros to Iran to clear 1/5th of dues - PTI -

The payments were stopped due to UN sanctions. Some sanctions are binding - unless someone unilaterally wanst to disregard them and pay a price. Anyway, last years news, remedied this year. Nothing to see here.

That being said, lets focus on the article under discussion here. On what grounds does China justify this new threat? Seriously, China invests in P0K, issues stapled visas to Indians and then starts a ruckus by trying to bully and threaten India not to invest in oil exploration in Vietnam's waters - which it claims as its own?

Hypocrisy, hegemony much?
 
There's two separate sanctions against Iran, the UN approved ones and the ones the US is forcing its allies to observe (Europe + other client states)

anyway let see what happens during the Krishna's visit k?
 
Vietnam must think 1000 times before banking on india as bulwark against china coz when the real shooting starts between china and Vietnam it will be India who will runaway from that area first along with its langot and Vietnamese will be left holding the empty bucket.As India did with Iran on voting against it at NSG and uno sanctions to win favors from USA.India did same against USSR in 1980s and now they are doing same with Afghanistan.

Beautiful analysis. Please to be teaching us on new insights.
 
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