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China Wage Levels Equal To Or Surpass Parts Of Europe
AUG 16, 2017
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This may be a glass half-full moment. Either China is catching up to parts of Europe in terms of wages, or wages in the newest parts of the European Union are being capped by the global competition for labor, a competition that China wins, hands down. In reality, it's both.

China's median monthly wages in Shanghai ($1,135), Beijing ($983) and Shenzen ($938) are higher than they are in the newest European Union member, Croatia. Croatia's median net salary is $887 a month. They joined the EU in 2013.

Shanghai's median wages, in particular, are also greater than two of the newest euro members in the Baltics: Lithuania ($956) and Latvia ($1,005), with Estonia, which joined the euro in 2011, recording a median income of $1,256 per month, according to government figures for 2016.


Over the last 10 years, Europe has sought to incorporate the skilled, lower cost labor pool from Eastern Europe into the fold of the European Union. In 2002, China became more fully integrated into the global labor force when it joined the World Trade Organization. The combination of these two massive labor pools into the workforce set the stage for wage stagnation among lower skilled and assembly line labor worldwide.

In economic jargon, this is described as the ‘flattening of the Phillips Curve’ says VTB Capital economist Neil MacKinnon.

"The impact of globalization and the entry of China into the WTO in 2002 increased the global labor supply markedly," he says. Excess supply of Chinese labor and the stream of low-cost Chinese goods into the world economy was a boon for global consumers, but it also meant that certain products and jobs that were done in Eastern Europe were going to have to compete with cheaper China. Supply chains and markets aside, the biggest cost to a company is its workforce. China's workforce is finally getting paid. Eastern Europe's China-like wages are just par for the course in a world where the motto has become: anything you can do, China can do cheaper.

China sets the price for manufacturing labor and, in the future, e-commerce related logistics. Some Europeans should hope for China's continued pay increases if they want an increase in gross wages themselves.

China's share of world trade (an average of exports plus imports) increased from slightly less than 2% in 1990 to almost 15% today, according to the Bank for International Settlements. Since then, China’s economic markets have joined the global economy, led primarily by its labor force with a capital-to-labor ratio below global standards. China is only now starting to automate.

Eastern Europe's integration into the West is often overlooked.

Over a similar time span, between the 1990s to today, Eastern European countries have fallen out of Russia's orbit and moved Westward. Prior to the fall of communism, these countries had been more or less isolated. Labor was abundant and well educated, but capital and management were limited. So a fruitful combination ensued: Western Europe supplied the money and the management, Eastern Europe supplied the cheaper labor.

The numbers associated with the integration of China and East Europe are staggering. Counting just the potential workforce, the working population in China and eastern Europe between the working ages of 20 to 64 was 820 million in 1990 and hit 1.2 billion by 2015. The available working population in the industrialized countries of Europe was 685 million before the crack-up of the Soviet Union in 1990 and hit 763 million in 2014, a one-time increase of 120% in the workforce that put the brakes on wages for lower skilled workers, according to the BIS.

Using those three Chinese cities as a gauge, their employees' median salaries are higher than those in the poorest section of Europe: the old Communist Balkans.

Just across from the Adriatic Sea on rich Italy's border sits a Chinese-like labor pool. Only they come cheaper, in fact. Chinese workers in Shanghai, Shenzhen, and Beijing, on average, earn more than workers in Albania, Romania, Bulgaria, Slovakia, and new NATO member Montenegro, which has a median income of just $896 a month.

Shanghai median wages are not all that much different than Poland's at $1,569. The same goes for the Czech Republic, with its median salary in Prague, its richest city, sitting around $1,400. Hungary's gross average wage is right in Shanghai's wheelhouse, at $1,139 per month.

China's wage growth is impressive. Great for the Chinese. But it has capped wage growth in many of the lower income states within Europe. What these numbers show is that China's role as manufacturing hub has set the table for any future uptick in wages, especially for the baseline workers in manufacturing, but soon in other new industries like e-commerce.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrap...l-to-or-surpass-parts-of-europe/#6031c12e3e7f
 
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in a world where the motto has become: anything you can do, China can do cheaper.

But now when the wages become equal after sometime the wages will become higher than Europe right? So how can it be done cheaper then ?

Is something wrong in my understanding ?
 
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But now when the wages become equal after sometime the wages will be come higher than Europe right? So how can it be done cheaper then ?

Is something wrong in my understanding ?
Two words... EXPORT SUBSIDIES
 
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But now when the wages become equal after sometime the wages will become higher than Europe right? So how can it be done cheaper then ?

Is something wrong in my understanding ?
Use robots , import cheap laborers from neighboring countries maybe, dunno, let wait and see.
 
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But now when the wages become equal after sometime the wages will become higher than Europe right? So how can it be done cheaper then ?

Is something wrong in my understanding ?
China is world factory. There are many reasons that make things cheaper. For instance, industries centralization effect, scale effect. And there is big room for China to improve in order to maintain its price advantage. For instance, higher standard infrastructures, higher working efficiency, introducing more robots.
 
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China is world factory. There are many reasons that make things cheaper. For instance, industries centralization effect, scale effect. And there is big room for China to improve in order to maintain its price advantage. For instance, higher standard infrastructures, higher working efficiency, introducing more robots.
That's true . labor cost is just a small part of the overall cost of a product. The cost of made in India products are consistantly much higher than those made in China proves it.
 
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But now when the wages become equal after sometime the wages will become higher than Europe right? So how can it be done cheaper then ?

Is something wrong in my understanding ?
One word: effectiveness.

Effectiveness is combination of various factors: worker high quality, high quality education, workers' discipline, superb infrastructure, good management skills, support from government etc.

Even Chinese wage is higher than that of German, I would doubt manufacturing will ever move back to Germany. Chinese is simply more effective and of higher quality.
 
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One word: effectiveness.

Effectiveness is combination of various factors: worker high quality, high quality education, workers' discipline, superb infrastructure, good management skills, support from government etc.

Even Chinese wage is higher than that of German, I would doubt manufacturing will ever move back to Germany. Chinese is simply more effective and of higher quality.

not so for the near future.

There's a reason why China is still importing from Germany for technology-intensive sectors. With the same investment and policy direction, it's gonna take at least another 2-3 decades to overtake them.
 
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not so for the near future.

There's a reason why China is still importing from Germany for technology-intensive sectors. it's gonna take at least another 2-3 decades to overtake them.

Surely my friend, I understand about this. Chinese is still in catch-up race with Germany in some sectors of very high tech. (they already left Germany behind in some others).

What I am talking about is the future. My point is that when China reaches German level of GDP per capita, their worker quality, in general, will surpass that of Germany.
 
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Surely my friend, I understand about this. Chinese is still in catch-up race with Germany in some sectors of very high tech. (they already left Germany behind in some others).

What I am talking about is the future. My point is that when China reaches German level of GDP per capita, their worker quality, in general, will surpass that of Germany.
If China reachs the German level of GDP per capita ... it means China GDP not far away to surpass the U.S, a terrible news for America.

As a employed engineer in R&D department, now in China usually salary from 10,000 ~ 30,000 RMB per month, if u lucky in a good & high profit company can reach max 40,000+ RMB per month ... if u wanna get more per month, u'b better to do sales business or become a BOSS in China that u need the market & build ur wide ppl network.
 
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