China Versus India, A Great Asian Race.

[Beast]

China has at least 4 time larger space budget but they are far behind India in many area of space technologies. Except lifting payload and sending human to space, China is not leading in most of the areas. China has spend a lot on their universities and infrastructure and bring them in top ranking but their students are unable to shine like Indians.Top University Chinese ends up getting mediocre jobs.

That proves what is called Investing in Human capital. One has tiny budget , conceives Mars mission in a year and half and reach there in copy book manner in just less than the cost of a Hollywood movie or a modern fighter jet. Another Country has a four time bigger budget, uses Russian rocket and fails. This is the difference between Human capital. Now people argue that they have bigger budget to prove their point without touching the issue of why they have mean achievement with four time bigger budget. They have spend a lot on infrastructure of universities but why are they unable to produce students who can provide leadership to world?

LOL.. Another laughing stock post. Another self comfort post to mask india incompetent..

India space technology beside just send a small junk to Mars has achieved nothing ahead of China...

https://spaceflightnow.com/2018/12/...gest-satellite-south-korean-weather-observer/

Ariane 5 launches India’s biggest satellite, South Korean weather observer

India bragging themselves as space power still need a European rocket to send yout satellite to space?

Talking about copy of Russian rocket is another BS invented by Indian to make themselves better..

https://www.space.com/40658-angara-rocket.html

Russian angara rocket which is same class as China long march 5 can carries 24.5 tons to low earth orbit while Payload capacity to geosynchronous transfer orbit is only 8.8 tons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_March_5

While China long march 5 to low earth orbit is almost same as Angara with 25tons, it is where GTO of Long march exceed Angara by almost double to 14tons.. Nobody can achieve better by just copying it. Long March 5 essentially is a Chinese design. Even our Long March 7 medium size rocket with 14tons low earth orbit is enough to beat any most powerful Indian rocket currently has.

China can do manned mission, space walk, space station autonomous docking, Lunar landing and lunar rover. All these which India still havent catch up with China and do not forsee able to accomplish in near future.

China will also have a global GPS equivalent system of Beidou which will complete in 2020 and has accuracy of few cm. Something which India space agency has not counterpart in near future.

 

[antonius123]

China has at least 4 time larger space budget but they are far behind India in many area of space technologies. Except lifting payload and sending human to space, China is not leading in most of the areas. China has spend a lot on their universities and infrastructure and bring them in top ranking but their students are unable to shine like Indians.Top University Chinese ends up getting mediocre jobs.

In which area of space technologies that India far ahead China?

China has sent man to space, put space station, send robot to moon by her own, shoot sattelite on geostationary, had more powerful rocket. India is far behind on those area for sure.

That proves what is called Investing in Human capital. One has tiny budget , conceives Mars mission in a year and half and reach there in copy book manner in just less than the cost of a Hollywood movie or a modern fighter jet. Another Country has a four time bigger budget, uses Russian rocket and fails. This is the difference between Human capital. Now people argue that they have bigger budget to prove their point without touching the issue of why they have mean achievement with four time bigger budget. They have spend a lot on infrastructure of universities but why are they unable to produce students who can provide leadership to world?

Then whats wrong with Tejas and Arjun? why India's technology level far behind?

So thanks for accepting that china does reverse engineering and It requires skills to do it. I admire this admission.

Your ambiguity is already answered in previous post.

There is no ambiquity of mine, I debunk the article BS when it says India do research while china only do RE, where in fact China r&d is far ahead India

 

[rcrmj]

India has no high tech and capable modern industry as simple as that....given the size of India to Iran, they would have achieved much better than India.

but the punch line is 99.99% Indian have zero clue that their country is still at factor driven primitive stage```far from being efficiency driven economy, forget about innovation driven society```

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There is no ambiquity of mine, I debunk the article BS when it says India do research while china only do RE, where in fact China r&d is far ahead India

you can attend any international technology, industry or IT affairs or exhibitions, you wont find any Indian companies that worth mentioning```they are all dominated by Western Europ, China, Japan and North America```in fact they are right next to none existance`````

and when innovation and invention is concerned````that really put them out of the picture entirely. they are no budy, period

 

[HariPrasad]

LOL.. Another laughing stock post. Another self comfort post to mask india incompetent..

India space technology beside just send a small junk to Mars has achieved nothing ahead of China...

https://spaceflightnow.com/2018/12/...gest-satellite-south-korean-weather-observer/

Ariane 5 launches India’s biggest satellite, South Korean weather observer

India bragging themselves as space power still need a European rocket to send yout satellite to space?

Talking about copy of Russian rocket is another BS invented by Indian to make themselves better..

https://www.space.com/40658-angara-rocket.html

Russian angara rocket which is same class as China long march 5 can carries 24.5 tons to low earth orbit while Payload capacity to geosynchronous transfer orbit is only 8.8 tons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_March_5

While China long march 5 to low earth orbit is almost same as Angara with 25tons, it is where GTO of Long march exceed Angara by almost double to 14tons.. Nobody can achieve better by just copying it. Long March 5 essentially is a Chinese design. Even our Long March 7 medium size rocket with 14tons low earth orbit is enough to beat any most powerful Indian rocket currently has.

China can do manned mission, space walk, space station autonomous docking, Lunar landing and lunar rover. All these which India still havent catch up with China and do not forsee able to accomplish in near future.

China will also have a global GPS equivalent system of Beidou which will complete in 2020 and has accuracy of few cm. Something which India space agency has not counterpart in near future.

If you read my previous posts, I have already said that China is ahead in weight lifting. We have only one launch left to be done from Ariane.

So far as 14 ton weight lifting is concern, two of your rockets have failed with communication satellite weighing some 5 to 6 tons and you are talking about 14 tons here? Come back when china successfully puts even half of the claimed weight. Look at our GSLV 2. It is declared a 2 ton weight class rocket but we put 2250 kg yesterday and it can easily carry 2500 kg into orbit. Soon it will carry more than 3000 kg and target is 4000 kg.

China is famous for its hollow claims. China is talking about carrier killer for more than a decade without even a single successful test. Your non existent missiles are US carrier killer from day one when you guys starts bragging. Your J 20 with no 5th generation stuff becomes F 22 killer. Your fiction CX1 becomes better than Brahmos. The specialty of Chinese is that their all stuff is highly advance better than even US from the day when they starts bragging.

India has no high tech and capable modern industry as simple as that....given the size of India to Iran, they would have achieved much better than India.

but the punch line is 99.99% Indian have zero clue that their country is still at factor driven primitive stage```far from being efficiency driven economy, forget about innovation driven society```


you can attend any international technology, industry or IT affairs or exhibitions, you wont find any Indian companies that worth mentioning```they are all dominated by Western Europ, China, Japan and North America```in fact they are right next to none existance`````

and when innovation and invention is concerned````that really put them out of the picture entirely. they are no budy, period

ofcourse, Bragging do not require any knowledge. Simply outburst of ignorance is enough.

 

[Beast]

If you read my previous posts, I have already said that China is ahead in weight lifting. We have only one launch left to be done from Ariane.

So far as 14 ton weight lifting is concern, two of your rockets have failed with communication satellite weighing some 5 to 6 tons and you are talking about 14 tons here? Come back when china successfully puts even half of the claimed weight. Look at our GSLV 2. It is declared a 2 ton weight class rocket but we put 2250 kg yesterday and it can easily carry 2500 kg into orbit. Soon it will carry more than 3000 kg and target is 4000 kg.

China is famous for its hollow claims. China is talking about carrier killer for more than a decade without even a single successful test. Your non existent missiles are US carrier killer from day one when you guys starts bragging. Your J 20 with no 5th generation stuff becomes F 22 killer. Your fiction CX1 becomes better than Brahmos. The specialty of Chinese is that their all stuff is highly advance better than even US from the day when they starts bragging.

LOL.. Another delusion. We dont even need Long March 5 to thrashed Indian rocket. Just Long March 7 is enough to beat all Indian current rocket. Come back and talk to me when your Indian rocket can handle our 14tons payload to GTO...

Maybe you want to claim 2 long march 7 rocket launches is also failure to mask Indian inferiority?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_March_7

List of Launches[edit]
Main article: List of Long March launches
Flight number Date (UTC) Launch site Upper stage Payload Orbit Result Notes
1 25 June 2016
12:00[10] Wenchang LC-2 YZ-1A

• Next-Generation Crew Capsule Scale Model
• Star of Aoxiang
• Aolong-1
• Tiange-1
• Tiange-2

LEO Success [16][17]

2 20 April 2017
11:41[18] Wenchang LC-2 None Tianzhou 1 LEO Success [19][20]

Finally, you are in denial that Indian achieved space docking, building space station better over China. Pathetic.

 

[HariPrasad]

Then whats wrong with Tejas and Arjun? why India's technology level far behind?

Tejas is a failure without a single accident and J10 is a hit with 9 plane falling in 2 years.

In which area of space technologies that India far ahead China?

China has sent man to space, put space station, send robot to moon by her own, shoot sattelite on geostationary, had more powerful rocket. India is far behind on those area for sure.

Placatory exploration, Reaching Mars, over 100 satellites launching, Multi orbit launching in single mission, earth observation, very lost launching, Reusable rocket technology, using scram jet technology etc etc.

 

[Beast]

Tejas is a failure without a single accident and J10 is a hit with 9 plane falling in 2 years.


Placatory exploration, Reaching Mars, over 100 satellites launching, Multi orbit launching in single mission, earth observation, very lost launching, Reusable rocket technology, using scram jet technology etc etc.

Autonomous and manned Space module docking, manned mission. Space walk, lunar landing, lunar rover exploration. Deep space exploring... All these you has not archived yet and far beind China.

China has reusable rocket and scram jet technology. I dont know what vedic info you got regards to absent from Chinese side.

 

[HariPrasad]

LOL.. Another delusion. We dont even need Long March 5 to thrashed Indian rocket. Just Long March 7 is enough to beat all Indian current rocket. Come back and talk to me when your Indian rocket can handle our 14tons payload to GTO...

Maybe you want to claim 2 long march 7 rocket launches is also failure to mask Indian inferiority?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_March_7

List of Launches[edit]
Main article: List of Long March launches
Flight number Date (UTC) Launch site Upper stage Payload Orbit Result Notes
1 25 June 2016
12:00[10] Wenchang LC-2 YZ-1A

• Next-Generation Crew Capsule Scale Model
• Star of Aoxiang
• Aolong-1
• Tiange-1
• Tiange-2

LEO Success [16][17]

2 20 April 2017
11:41[18] Wenchang LC-2 None Tianzhou 1 LEO Success [19][20]

Finally, you are in denial that Indian achieved space docking, building space station better over China. Pathetic.

You brag about Long march 5. When I exposed you, you started talking about Long march 7. Why do you brag about Long march 5 which has a 100% failure record than?

So far as weight lifting is concern, I have already said that China is ahead. So what do you want to prove afterall which I do not understand. What I do not understand is that you have nothing else which you can produce except heavy weight lifting.

 

[Beast]

You brag about Long march 5. When I exposed you, you started talking about Long march 7. Why do you brag about Long march 5 which has a 100% failure record than?

So far as weight lifting is concern, I have already said that China is ahead. So what do you want to prove afterall which I do not understand. What I do not understand is that you have nothing else which you can produce except heavy weight lifting.

Is Long March 7 better than any current India rocket a lie? Is the 2 successful mission of Long March 7 also make up? Why do you get so work up when I prove China space rocket is far superior than anything India can throw at us? As I say, come back and talk again when you build a more powerful rocket than China.

Where is your space module docking technology? Where is your lunar soft landing technology? Why are u in denial? You keep insist India is ahead in China in except lifting and manned mission which is proven wrong. Prove to me...

 

[HariPrasad]

Autonomous and manned Space module docking, manned mission. Space walk, lunar landing, lunar rover exploration. Deep space exploring... All these you has not archived yet and far beind China.

China has reusable rocket and scram jet technology. I dont know what vedic info you got regards to absent from Chinese side.

What you are hyping about your space achievements at moon, we have done that in Mars before you. Please explain about your deep space exploration. We have launched a mini hubble sort of satellite a long ago and it has successfully demistrified a riddle seeking solution for 6 decades. I am eager to know about your space exploration. Please explain.

There is only one problem..

This Marriage Venue/Mandir is in Toronto, Canada

You have to much of Knowledge I think. Google is just a finger tip away. Why don't you check before making youself a laughing stock?

 

[Canuck786]

TORONTO, CANADA

Looks so similar to this one in Toronto

 

[Beast]

What you are hyping about your space achievements at moon, we have done that in Mars before you. Please explain about your deep space exploration. We have launched a mini hubble sort of satellite a long ago and it has successfully demistrified a riddle seeking solution for 6 decades. I am eager to know about your space exploration. Please explain.

China Launches Country's First Dark Matter Satellite

FAST: The World's Largest Telescope

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Chinas_Change_2_a_success_999.html

"Currently, the Chang'e-2 is the smallest man-made asteroid in the solar system. It has completed over 200 million kilometers flight and will continue to fly, returning somewhere closer to the earth around 2029," he said.

Does orbiting a small satellite over Mars proves more difficult than a Lunar soft landing which require very sophisticated technology to control the landing hundred thousands kilometres away from earth ? Not to mention it carries a lunar rover to explore moon.

I dont think we need an expert to answer that. Sending a satellite to Mars is not some difficult feat. EuroSpaceAgency, Russia and American has done that. It you claim orbiting Mars proves India is better. Why Indian now has not make a soft lunar landing? You just cherrypick to prove your absurd point.

What you are hyping about your space achievements at moon, we have done that in Mars before you. Please explain about your deep space exploration. We have launched a mini hubble sort of satellite a long ago and it has successfully demistrified a riddle seeking solution for 6 decades. I am eager to know about your space exploration. Please explain.

Dont make me laugh. You Indian has yet to make a soft landing on moon. Care to show me? I can show you Chinese soft lunar landing.. What kind of achievement you have better over China at lunar exploration?

 

[Canuck786]

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You have to much of Knowledge I think. Google is just a finger tip away. Why don't you check before making youself a laughing stock?

My Apologies!

 

[HariPrasad]

Does orbiting a small satellite over Mars proves more difficult than a Lunar soft landing which require very sophisticated technology to control the landing hundred thousands kilometres away from earth ? Not to mention it carries a lunar rover to explore moon.

Its not difficult at all. We are set to do that just in few months. We had the most successful mission of moon years ago.

I dont think we need an expert to answer that. Sending a satellite to Mars is not some difficult feat. EuroSpaceAgency, Russia and American has done that. It you claim orbiting Mars proves India is better. Why Indian now has not make a soft lunar landing? You just cherrypick to prove your absurd point.

But your president Xi said that he is proud of India's achievement as an Asian nation for this mission. Japan has failed multiple times and you have not gathered enough courage to attempt it after a failure in 2011. Since you can not do it, it is not an achievement. I know very well how you guys would have behaved had you succeed.

Please let us know what your change 2 till date?

 

[antonius123]

Tejas is a failure without a single accident and J10 is a hit with 9 plane falling in 2 years.

But J-10 had successful come into operation while TEJAs has not; doesnt matter about the accident as it is not the sole parameter of success/failure. In fact the majority of the crash of J-10 is due to unreliable engine AL-31 that should not be used single. Do you know how many F-15, F16, F18 has been failing? you will be surprised to see the figure.

This is not to mention J-20, Y-20, numerous drone, etc

Placatory exploration, Reaching Mars, over 100 satellites launching, Multi orbit launching in single mission, earth observation, very lost launching, Reusable rocket technology, using scram jet technology etc etc.

Reaching mars is only by orbiting satelite; the technology complexity is not as much as placing man on space, or placing robot on moon soil. Scramjet and reusable rocket, well I dont see Indian is ahead china.

Multi orbit lanching ... maybe, but that alone is pale compared to numerous chinese technology such as rocket power, auto docking, putting man into space, landing on moon, shooting geo satelite, etc.