China USA Anchorage meeting descends into war of words

[vi-va]

it is not old China and this is not that US. China has several US weaknesses at hand to exploit.
it is two big economies fight and will not be that easy for Biden. thing may heat up on several occasions even in the future.
on one side Blinken is having this meeting on other hand their media is not only defending their official's tone but also highlighting issue such as Xinjiang etc.

If you take a very close look, Blinken's eyes blinked, and he rubbed his hands constantly. I can see his nervousness.

 

[FuturePAF]

That depends what you mean by parity. In many aspects China surpasses US in terms of military power. Cases in point. J-20 fighter jets. Type 055 destroyers. Type 095 submarines. US have no answer to them.

The F-22 exceeds the J-20, with a follow on design in development. The Zumwalt surpasses the Type 055, and the Seawolf Class subs surpass the Type 095. The Chinese navy in numbers may surpass the US navy, but in tonnage is barely half that of the US Navy. The entire sea floor of the world’s oceans are lined with sonar nets. US spy and communications satellites are more numerous and more powerful then Chinese systems.

Yes, China has made great strides, and with time, it will build up the capabilities to reach parity in a couple of decades, but at the moment, the Chinese military is an A2AD force; Anti-Access Area Denial Force; I.e. a very powerful but still defensive force.

Parity will probably come quietly and barely noticed. For example, with the DF-41 rolled out in the 2019 parade, you can expect up to three dozen or so per year; my guess per the size of a fully equipped brigade in the PLARF.(https://www.aboyandhis.blog/post/mapping-the-people-s-liberation-army-rocket-force)

With three warheads a piece, within a decade; that’s over a thousand warheads (if there is enough material to make them). At that rate, the PLARF could be at parity by some time next decade. But China keeps it vague, so no one knows for sure.

 

[zhxy]

If you take a very close look, Blinken's eyes blinked, and he rubbed his hands again and again. I can see his nervousness.

“Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.” --- sun tzu---

 

[vi-va]

The most consequential impact of Trump's presidency on US China relations is that it removed China's fear of the US. I think that was pretty evident in this meeting.

Bro, to be honest. China never never fear US. China knew very well that US can't afford a direct full scale war with China. Think about Korea War, 38°, think about Vietnam War 17°. When China draw the red line, US dare not to cross.

US can play the war game card, but look, has US invaded North Korea? Has US invaded Iran? Has US invaded Russia? The answer is clear, US can only play proxy war.

Will Japan be foolish enough to take China directly for US? Will South Korea do that? Even India would not. Every country pursue own interest, no country dare to invade China, all bluff.

The only weakness is ourselves. As long as 1.4 billions China united, leaded by CCP, US can only bark, but not bite.

It took US 23 years to sanction and weaken Iraq, divided Iraq from inside, then invade. US tried to weaken Iran for 42 years since 1979, but failed.

US debt bomb tik tok, everyone saw it. US dare not to challenge Iran, what can US do to challenge China?

 

[tower9]

Bro, to be honest. China never never fear US. China knew very well that US can't afford a direct full scale war with China. Think about Korea War, 38°, think about Vietnam War 17°. When China draw the red line, US dare not to cross.

US can play the war game card, but look, has US invaded North Korea? Has US invaded Iran? Has US invaded Russia? The answer is clear, US can only play proxy war.

Will Japan be foolish enough to take China directly for US? Will South Korea do that? Even India would not. Every country pursue own interest, no country dare to invade China, all bluff.

The only weakness is ourselves. As long as 1.4 billions China united, leaded by CCP, US can only bark, but not bite.

It took US 23 years to sanction and weaken Iraq, divided Iraq from inside, then invade. US tried to weaken Iran for 42 years since 1979, but failed.

US debt bomb tik tok, everyone saw it. US dare not to challenge Iran, what can US do to challenge China?

I disagree. China had a fear of the US. But Trump pushed confrontation to the tilt and China is stronger than ever so it removed the fear.

 

[Feng Leng]

USA is a paper tiger

 

[Daniel808]

Antony Blinken (American side) asked pool reporters to leave the room after finished a tough speech, but Yang asked them to stay to hear what Chinese diplomates say “We think too well of you,” Yang told Blinken. A very rare scenarios.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1372763044435009538

https://twitter.com/x/status/1372796713103061004

What a badass Diplomat from Chinese side

 

[FuturePAF]

Antony Blinken (American side) asked pool reporters to leave the room after finished a tough speech, but Yang asked them to stay to hear what Chinese diplomates say “We think too well of you,” Yang told Blinken. A very rare scenarios.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1372763044435009538

https://twitter.com/x/status/1372796713103061004

What a badass Diplomat from Chinese side

Summary: basically what Putin said yesterday; “takes one to know one”; so now we have a diplomatic Mexican standoff

 

[Daniel808]

Let teach those cowboy, that We are Asian People is Equal compared to westerners.

Go China Go ! Teach those americans, to never ever look down again on Asian people

 

[GumNaam]

So let me say here that in front of the Chinese side, the United States does not have the qualification to say that it wants to speak to China from a position of strength.

#BLM

 

[Feng Leng]

Not according to Xi. Full modernization as envisioned by Chairman Xi is expected at the earliest by 2027, the 100th anniversary of the party’s founding. With another two decades to achieving the status of a world class military; which probably means parity at all levels.

China is making a dash to nuclear parity. When the war begins, we will strike New York, Washington DC, LA, Chicago, Boston, etc. on hair trigger alert.

 

[FuturePAF]

China is making a dash to nuclear parity. When the war begins, we will strike New York, Washington DC, LA, Chicago, Boston, etc. on hair trigger alert.

Sure, sure. And the US will strike Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, etc. etc. if your looking for good fiction, I consider you read the new (published in 2021) novel written by an American Admiral (and not just any admiral but one that was once NATO Supreme Allied Commander) about a war between America and China, called “2034: A Novel of the Next World War”. Probably more realistic of how a war would really go down. Let’s hope wars stay fictional, no need for billions to die.

 

[Indos]

The most consequential impact of Trump's presidency on US China relations is that it removed China's fear of the US. I think that was pretty evident in this meeting.

Trump is the one who initiate more confrontational policy to China from USA side and look like it will be followed by other US President, regardless it is Republican or Democrat. What I can say is that Trump has gotten its objective and now his policy is accepted by US establishment, including their political opponent (Democrat). About removing the fear, it is normal for some one being attacked to attack back, just an example of that is Iran.

 

[Beidou2020]

When Russia took back Crimea, US did nothing. When Iran bombed US bases, US did nothing. China has seen big US weakness. The aura of invincibility of the US is shattered into a million pieces.

That position of strength quote by Yang is brutal. That will definitely sting the American ego. Other smaller nations are watching this to see how China stood up to the Americans. Psychologically it is a big moment.

 

[Feng Leng]

Sure, sure. And the US will strike Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, etc. etc. if your looking for good fiction, I consider you read the new (published in 2021) novel written by an American Admiral about a war between America and China, called “2034: A Novel of the Next World War”. Probably more realistic of how a war would really go down. Let’s hope wars stay fictional, no need for billions to die.
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The Americans can only write fiction where China's capabilities are present day but USA capabilities are forecasted into the next decade

The fact is USA will surrender unconditionally after the first nuclear warheads detonate over their cities.