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China’s trade surplus expanded again in the second quarter, providing the economy with a crucial boost ahead of Wednesday’s release of growth data. China’s trade surplus was Rmb 850bn ($136.7bn) in the second quarter, up from Rmb 760bn of the first quarter of 2015.

The trade surplus for 1st Half Year of 2015 was Rmb 1.61 trillion ($260 billion), was some 150% higher than the same period a year ago.
 
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$260 billion half year,$500 billion whole year?:hitwall:

Should be more than that $500 billion. Usually trade surplus of first half-year is around 1/3 of the whole year (due to Chinese New Year in February and other seasonality factors), so if the same trend persists then overall 2015 trade surplus forecast should be around $600-700 billion, to be conservative.

Last year, 2014, trade surplus was $384 billion.

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Should be more than that $500 billion. Usually trade surplus of first half-year is around 1/3 of the whole year (due to Chinese New Year in February and other seasonality factors), so if the same trend persists then overall 2015 trade surplus forecast should be around $600-700 billion, to be conservative.

Last year, 2014, trade surplus was $384 billion.

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Beaufitul China, this is exactly the reason the whole world envies China. I have to say though, instead of 4-500 billion a year in surplus, lower that to some 150-200 billion, and boost internal consumption. That will grow both the economy of China and the trade volume with the world (some more consumption within China, some more construction outside of China, but China still the big boss).
 
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Beaufitul China, this is exactly the reason the whole world envies China. I have to say though, instead of 4-500 billion a year in surplus, lower that to some 150-200 billion, and boost internal consumption. That will grow both the economy of China and the trade volume with the world (some more consumption within China, some more construction outside of China, but China still the big boss).

Totally agree。

I am looking forward to the day when consumption makes up at least 50% of the Chinese economy。

China's $67 trillion consumer economy

2:00 PM Sunday Jul 26, 2015

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Consumption in China contributed 60 per cent to gross domestic product growth in the first half, even as the country grew at its slowest in 25 years. Photo / Getty


You've heard of Made in China. Get ready for Sold in China.

For decades, China has exported cheap goods to the rest of the world even while domestic consumption waned. Now, the country's shoppers could be set for a reboot.

If the government delivers on its promise to transform the economy by encouraging spending on the high street, China's consumer base has the potential to hit $67 trillion over the next decade, according to The Demand Institute, a think tank jointly run by The Conference Board and Nielsen.

Global interest in Chinese shoppers is already high. Music doyenne Taylor Swift has teamed up with JD.com, the second-largest e-commerce company in China, to sell a new fashion line designed specifically for Chinese shoppers. At the movies, ticket sales are surging, with first-half box office revenue this year rising to 20 billion yuan (US$3.2 billion), compared with just 4 billion yuan in all of 2008.

The hard economic data are also showing a shift, albeit slowly. Consumption in China contributed 60 per cent to gross domestic product growth in the first half, even as the country grew at its slowest in 25 years.

Part of the spending increase is down to a government led push to shift the economy away from debt fueled investment and more toward consumption. But that won't happen overnight: Consumption's share of the economy eased to 28 per cent in 2011 from 76 per cent in 1952, according to the Demand Institute.

"There are signs that the decline in consumption's share of GDP may have abated, but it has certainly not yet been reversed," the report's lead authors Louise Keely and Brian Anderson said.

In its analysis, the Demand Institute modeled two scenarios, both based on GDP growth slowing from around 7 per cent to 4 per cent by 2019 where it would stay until 2025.

Under the first scenario - which they figure is the most likely - the consumption share of GDP would remain constant at about 28 per cent between 2015 and 2025, with total spending reaching 330 trillion yuan or $53 trillion.

In the second case, where consumption reaches 46 per cent of output by 2025, or annual spending rises 126 per cent, consumption would balloon to 420 trillion yuan, or $68 trillion.

The analysis is based on the development of 167 countries between 1950 and 2011. Countries with similar underlying fundamentals to China saw consumption remain flat relative to GDP for some time after it stopped falling.

If China's shoppers do take off, it will be from a relatively low base. Using the latest available comparative data from 2011, consumption in China made up 28 per cent of real GDP, according to the report. That compares with 76 per cent in the US, 67 per cent in Brazil, 60 per cent in Japan, 59 per cent in Germany, and 52 per cent in India. :coffee:

- Bloomberg

China's $67 trillion consumer economy - Business - NZ Herald News
 
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Bulging forex reserves!

Beaufitul China, this is exactly the reason the whole world envies China. I have to say though, instead of 4-500 billion a year in surplus, lower that to some 150-200 billion, and boost internal consumption. That will grow both the economy of China and the trade volume with the world (some more consumption within China, some more construction outside of China, but China still the big boss).

You are right bros!

Backed by well developed infrastructure, China has established an industrial base that's so competitive in global markets, that's only strengthening as time goes on, this results in huge trade surplus, huge reserves/savings. To maintain a balance in global economy, the ultimate solution is Chinese changing from savings mode to consumption mode.

However in the short run, I don't see Chinese consumption increasing significantly even if currency is somehow appreciated. There are many obstacles like social net, tax structure, Chinese traditional culture, etc. Also, about the currency, unless the Bretton Wood system is restructured completely, it wouldn't affect the status quo scenario.

So in the short run, the temporary solution would still be outbound investment.

For further reading, to a smaller scale Germany's trade situation on the continental level of Europe (especially among single currency zone) is something we can study. China's situation is just global and complicated.
No, Ben Bernanke: The German Trade Surplus Is Not A Problem For The Eurozone - Forbes
 
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The problem is the quality of trade surplus,not quantity.High quality trade surplus would remain stable when faced currency appreciation.Low quality trade surplus will collapse when the currency appreciated.Place like Taiwan has a low quality trade surplus,so they remains a devoloping country,that's not the kind of surplus we should seek.
 
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big problem we face.
we should buy buy buy..companies,minerals,technology,or lands
 
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It should be a top national priority to stop hoarding foreign debt and start spending on socialist programs. Free food for school children, no school fees and even start giving free school stationary, uniforms, shoes and even a little discretionary cash vouchers for children only.

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It should be a top national priority to stop hoarding foreign debt and start spending on socialist programs. Free food for school children, no school fees and even start giving free school stationary, uniforms, shoes and even a little discretionary cash vouchers for children only.

FCUK holding foreign paper.
You can't do these by using foreign currency.We can make all those by ourselves.
 
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You can't do these by using foreign currency.We can make all those by ourselves.

Money is money and Im just a dumbass ape. If the central government cannot turn that much trade surplus into tangible benefits by shuffling money around then something is seriously flawed. The forex reserve should be more than just defending the currency and cheap borrowing.

I remember Zhu Rongi making some comment about something as simple as providing kids with a boiled egg and a glass of milk. Fcukers cant even do that.

Makes me go apeshit.
 
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i am looking forward to see companies like huawei to.get.more money from foreign cuatomers.
 
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