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China Top Source of Counterfeit U.S. Military Electronics

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China’s government has failed to curb manufacturing of counterfeit military electronic parts by Chinese companies that are the “dominant source” of fakes in the U.S. defense supply chain, a Senate investigation found.

The U.S. Air Force suspended in January a Shenzhen, China- based company from supplying parts to U.S. contractors after it sold about 84,000 suspect components, many of them installed on U.S. aircraft, according to an example cited in the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee report released yesterday.

The panel’s report outlines the results of a 14-month investigation disclosing dozens of examples of suspected counterfeit electronic parts. Saying U.S. companies and the military services didn’t crack down on abuses, the committee said the defense industry “routinely failed to report cases of suspect counterfeit parts, putting the integrity of the supply chain at risk.”

The report didn’t cite any examples of counterfeit parts causing damage such as lives lost or planes that crashed.

The committee said it found “overwhelming and undeniable evidence to support” the conclusion that China hasn’t taken steps to stop operations “that are carried out openly in that country.”

Denying Visas
“Rather than acknowledging the problem and moving aggressively to shut down counterfeiters, the Chinese government has tried to avoid scrutiny, including denying visas to committee staff to travel to mainland China as part of the investigation,” according to the report.

Geng Shuang, a spokesman at the Chinese embassy in Washington, didn’t respond to an e-mail yesterday seeking comment.

The Senate committee’s investigative staff amassed a database with 1,800 cases of counterfeiting involving about 1 million parts. It scrutinized 100 cases and found that 70 percent of the suspect parts were traced to Chinese companies. The U.K. and Canada followed China, based on the resale by companies in those countries of parts from China, according to the report.

The “vast majority of the 1,800 cases appear to have gone unreported to the Defense Department or criminal authorities,” the report found.

Night-Vision Sights
Suspect parts went into equipment ranging from thermal night-vision sights for Army weapons to computers installed on Lockheed Martin Corp. (LMT) missile interceptors and transport aircraft as well as those made by L-3 Communications Holdings Inc. (LLL) and Boeing Co. (BA), according to the panel’s report.

Questionable parts also made it into special forces helicopters, Raytheon Co. (RTN)’s GPS-guided Excalibur artillery shell and General Dynamics Corp. (GD)’s Army Stryker Mobile Gun, according to the report.

The committee disclosed at a November hearing that it found counterfeit parts on at least seven aircraft, including the C-130J transport plane from Bethesda, Maryland-based Lockheed Martin and the P-8A Poseidon maritime patrol from Chicago-based Boeing.

Two new Air Force C-27J Spartans from New York-based L-3 deployed to Afghanistan had displays with suspect parts, according to the panel.

The committee traced memory chips in the L-3 to the company in Shenzhen, which also delivered an earlier counterfeit part L-3 discovered in October 2009, the panel said.

Company Suspended
The Air Force on January 13 suspended the company, Hong Dark Electronic Trade Co., from Pentagon contracting, according to a memo from the service.

“Hong Dark has supplied suspect counterfeit parts” to a middleman who then sold the parts to L-3 Communications, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, and Raytheon, among others, Air Force Deputy General Counsel Steven Shaw said in the memo.

Many of the 84,000 electronic parts from Hong Dark have been installed on aircraft such the C-17 transport and helicopters such as the AH-64 Apache and CH-46, according to Shaw.

After the November hearing, L-3 officials sent samples from 20 lots of parts purchased from the company for independent testing, which confirmed that all except two were suspect, according to the Senate committee.

L-3 also provided the committee an “extensive” list of equipment beyond the C-27J aircraft that contained suspect counterpart parts, such as the Traffic Alert and and Collision Avoidance System for preventing mid-air collisions used on several military programs, including the Global Hawk drone from Northrop Grumman Corp. (NOC)

The defense industry has failed to utilize an existing database for sharing information, the Government-Industry Data Exchange, that’s intended to ease the dissemination of warnings on faulty parts and their manufacturers, the committee said.

Only 271 reports of suspect parts were disseminated in the defense supply chain in 2009 and 2010, the period when the committee identified 1,800 cases of suspect parts


China Top Source of Counterfeit U.S. Military Electronics - Bloomberg

Oh yeah , certainly they have a positive image in the west as claimed. It's one thing to have corruption, as in every country, it's another to be a STATE SPONSOR OF CORRUPTION...

“Rather than acknowledging the problem and moving aggressively to shut down counterfeiters, the Chinese government has tried to avoid scrutiny, including denying visas to committee staff to travel to mainland China as part of the investigation,” according to the report.

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Oh yeah , certainly they have a positive image in the west as claimed. It's one thing to have corruption, as in every country, it's another to be a STATE SPONSOR OF CORRUPTION...

They have similar image among Russians, Europeans and for that matter most of the world.. North Korea and Pakistan are the only two places where despite all the issues, their image is positive and probably will remain positive for ever..
 
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American military thinks too much of Chinese counterfeiting and spying.

Fact of the matter is, China has gained very little for all its efforts in spying. The effort would be better spent in developing its own internal technical resources.

Ironically, I believe that the more technologies that China is embargoed from the rest of the world, the better off it will be. It's precisely the reason that China has been the target of Western Embargo for the better part of 30 years that it's able to build many technologies from the ground up, military or otherwise. China has a tremendously diversified and self-sufficient industrial base because of the embargo. Afterall, necessity is the mother of invention.

China is perfectly capable of developing its own technology with its internal resources. A highly intelligent and hardworking population is one of the biggest strengths of China. You can't prevent intelligent people from gaining technology. it simply does not work.
 
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American military thinks too much of Chinese counterfeiting and spying.

Fact of the matter is, China has gained very little for all its efforts in spying. The effort would be better spent in developing its own internal technical resources.

Ironically, I believe that the more technologies that China is embargoed from the rest of the world, the better off it will be. It's precisely the reason that China has been the target of Western Embargo for the better part of 30 years that it's able to build many technologies from the ground up, military or otherwise. China has a tremendously diversified and self-sufficient industrial base because of the embargo. Afterall, necessity is the mother of invention.

China is perfectly capable of developing its own technology with its internal resources. A highly intelligent and hardworking population is one of the biggest strengths of China. You can't prevent intelligent people from gaining technology. it simply does not work.

Learn to read the article , it's about counterfeit companies in china protected by the govt. not spying , which your other topic. you failed to help with the propaganda.

“Rather than acknowledging the problem and moving aggressively to shut down counterfeiters, the Chinese government has tried to avoid scrutiny, including denying visas to committee staff to travel to mainland China as part of the investigation,” according to the report.
 
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It's buyer's responsibility to check component suppliers.

If I bought a soft drink from "Bharat Beverages Group LTD" expecting it to be soda and found out it was cow piss, that'd be my fault, wouldn't it?

Not If they were selling you cow piss under the govt approval to sell you cow piss. Embezzled money bought you a seat in an educational institutional in our country but it could not buy you a clue. Try reading the quote from the article real slow...

But thanks for confirming that your business are fraught with corruption so buyer beware.

“Rather than acknowledging the problem and moving aggressively to shut down counterfeiters, the Chinese government has tried to avoid scrutiny, including denying visas to committee staff to travel to mainland China as part of the investigation,” according to the report.
 
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That is Fantastic news. That means we can now buy parts for our F16-Block 52's at a cheaper price from our Friendly Chinese suppliers. I LIKE IT.......:china::china::pakistan::pakistan:
 
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That is Fantastic news. That means we can now buy parts for our F16-Block 52's at a cheaper price from our Friendly Chinese suppliers. I LIKE IT.......:china::china::pakistan::pakistan:

Omg :rofl: he does not know the meaning of the word counterfeit :rofl: he thought , mind you without reading the article, typical , that it was a positive news about china's sales to the US
 
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lol but what do you expect from the Chinese, no wonder 99% of their products are crap and come apart as soon as you use them, and as for Pakistan the Chines can continue to supply the Pakistanis whatever they want, at least the Chinese have the sheep in Pakistan to sell their crappy/copied weapons. LOL
 
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lol but what do you expect from the Chinese, no wonder 99% of their products are crap and come apart as soon as you use them, and as for Pakistan the Chines can continue to supply the Pakistanis whatever they want, at least the Chinese have the sheep in Pakistan to sell their crappy/copied weapons. LOL

Excellent. Then you won't have a problem with stopping the use of all Chinese products?

Please start with throwing your PC, monitor, keyboard, and mouse out the window. They're probably Chinese made. Then sleep on the floor, because your furniture is probably from China.

I insist you protect yourself from faulty Chinese products. The added advantage is that I won't have to see your retarded posts in this forum again.

WIN/WIN.
 
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Excellent. Then you won't have a problem with stopping the use of all Chinese products?

Please start with throwing your PC, monitor, keyboard, and mouse out the window. They're probably Chinese made. Then sleep on the floor, because your furniture is probably from China.

I insist you protect yourself from faulty Chinese products. The added advantage is that I won't have to see your retarded posts in this forum again.

WIN/WIN.

So let us get this, you posted this instead of.. It is embarrassing that we not only have these counterfeiters in our industries but worse that our govt is protecting them instead of taking such criminal behaviour to task..

There is no moral fortitude among you guys?
 
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lol but what do you expect from the Chinese, no wonder 99% of their products are crap and come apart as soon as you use them, and as for Pakistan the Chines can continue to supply the Pakistanis whatever they want, at least the Chinese have the sheep in Pakistan to sell their crappy/copied weapons. LOL
this post showes you a 100% Indian trying to fake your white masters```so how's your parents' 7'11 doing in west? i bet most of the things are 'crapy/copied' things from China?
 
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So let us get this, you posted this instead of.. It is embarrassing that we not only have these counterfeiters in our industries but worse that our govt is protecting them instead of taking such criminal behaviour to task..

There is no moral fortitude among you guys?

uh. you might be slightly confused. I think Counterfeiting is indeed wrong, but it's a natural step for nations to take as they step up the value chain. Hyundai got its name because Koreans thought it was similar to Honda, so people might confuse it for a Japanese car. It's unfortunate, and it's wrong.

That said, It's a necessary step in the grand scheme of Chinese industrialization. I think China is almost past that step, and in fact counterfeiting is bad for Chinese industry now. It focuses the industry on short term profits and destroys innovation.

So actually, I welcome your efforts in exposing Chinese counterfeiters. The sooner they go out of business, the sooner we can go back to establishing a strong economic base based on innovation.

So, thanks. and I actually mean that.
 
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uh. you might be slightly confused. I think Counterfeiting is indeed wrong, but it's a natural step for nations to take as they step up the value chain. Hyundai got its name because Koreans thought it was similar to Honda, so people might confuse it for a Japanese car. It's unfortunate, and it's wrong.

That said, It's a necessary step in the grand scheme of Chinese industrialization. I think China is almost past that step, and in fact counterfeiting is bad for Chinese industry now. It focuses the industry on short term profits and destroys innovation.

So actually, I welcome your efforts in exposing Chinese counterfeiters. The sooner they go out of business, the sooner we can go back to establishing a strong economic base based on innovation.

So, thanks. and I actually mean that.

nope,counterfeit wasn't the first of chinese industry.only a silly man has such idea.
 
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