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Economists are downgrading their forecasts for economic growth in China again, to below a level seen as necessary for the Communist Party to meet its own goals in time for its centenary in 2021.

Oxford Economics, Bank of America Merrill Lynch, and Bloomberg Economics on Tuesday all cut their forecasts for gross domestic product growth in 2020 to below 6% as a result of increasing risks from the tariff war with the U.S. In addition, Bank of America’s Helen Qiao and others are warning that the government’s current approach to stimulus is proving insufficient.


China is refraining from cutting benchmark policy rates or pumping large volumes of cash into the economy even as growth slows to the weakest in almost three decades and the tariff escalation in August adds further headwinds. That’s endangering President Xi Jinping’s ability to claim China has reached a moderately prosperous society” that has doubled 2010 GDP by next year, as a rate above 6% in 2019 and 2020 would be needed.

Demand for credit has been weak, and while the policy easing since late last year has helped moderate the slowdown, the impact has been small, according to a report by Louis Kuijs, chief Asia economist at Oxford Economics in Hong Kong. With all the issues facing China, “more policy easing is needed to convincingly stabilize economic growth,” Kuijs said.

China’s economic growth will likely slow to 5.7% in the last quarter of 2019 and remain broadly at that pace in 2020, Kuijs said. Output growth softened to 6.2% in the second quarter from a year earlier, close to the lower bound of the government’s full-year target of between 6% and 6.5%. Earliest indicators compiled by Bloomberg showed the economy slowed further in August.

What Bloomberg’s Economists Say..
“We now expect China’s growth to slow to 6% this year and 5.6% next year. Our lower forecasts are subject to downside risks, given further threatened tariffs, and uncertainty over how the blow to business confidence from the trade war will play out.”

--Chang Shu, chief Asia economist, Bloomberg Economists

See here for the full note.

Bank of America’s chief Greater China economist Helen Qiao said their 2020 forecast has been cut to 5.7% from 6.0%, and warned of the risk that policy makers are falling behind the curve on support to the economy.

“The key reason for delayed policy response is policy agencies are waiting for the instruction from top decision makers to shift policy stance towards easing,” Qiao wrote in a note.

UBS Group AG sees stimulus coming in the form of more monetary easing, but expects policy makers to refrain from boosting the property market unless there’s a significant downturn. Wang Tao, chief China economist, now sees growth of 5.5% in 2020, after cutting the growth forecast on Tuesday for the second time in less than a month, down from 6.1% in early August.

“The risk of further escalation remains significant, which would put additional downward pressure on China’s growth,” Wang said, adding that she expects the People’s Bank of China to further reduce reserve-ratios this year but hold off from adjusting the broader benchmark rate.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ill-grow-at-5-7-in-2020-oxford-economics-says
 
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Well, it was expected. They're having disputes with one of their biggest customers. Lets see what happens...
 
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Many predicted global recession in 2020.

Trump feels nothing because he is already rich.

But small medium businesses and workers will have the biggest effect.
 
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I have seen many chinese working in corporate sector using apple products.If chinese growth slows it will also result in decrease in demand of u.s products and hence badly affect u.s economy
 
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U.S. GDP growth will slow to 2.1% in 2019 from 3% in 2018. It will be 2% in 2020 and 1.8% in 2021. That's according to the most recent forecast released at the Federal Open Market Committee meeting on June 19, 2019. The projected slowdown in 2019 and beyond is a side effect of the trade war, a key component of Trump's economic policies.

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First care about yourself, america's Ponzi scheme economy is collapsing:usflag::dance3:

Americans will buy made in Vietnam to harm China, helpless and desperate way:omghaha::rofl::suicide:
 
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And the US economy is collapsing. Recession is likely to occur as soon as 2020.
 
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U.S. GDP growth will slow to 2.1% in 2019 from 3% in 2018. It will be 2% in 2020 and 1.8% in 2021. That's according to the most recent forecast released at the Federal Open Market Committee meeting on June 19, 2019. The projected slowdown in 2019 and beyond is a side effect of the trade war, a key component of Trump's economic policies.
Trouble is, USA has GDP per capita of 40K+. China? mere 10-11K.

First care about yourself, america's Ponzi scheme economy is collapsing:usflag::dance3:

Americans will buy made in Vietnam to harm China, helpless and desperate way:omghaha::rofl::suicide:
American economy is thriving for past what? 200 years or so?
Chinese? just 30-40 years.
If anyone, China should be worried. Their so called unparalled growth is about to end, prematurely.
lol....
 
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Trouble is, USA has GDP per capita of 40K+. China? mere 10-11K.


American economy is thriving for past what? 200 years or so?
Chinese? just 30-40 years.
If anyone, China should be worried. Their so called unparalled growth is about to end, prematurely.
lol....

I am tiring of answering this type of questions for so many times, yet people do not do any research before responding.

US has GDP per capital of $40K, true, but in real world, not many Americans have enjoyed such benefit of US economic wealth. US has one of the world's worst income disparity, meaning a very small group of people control 90% of the wealth in USA. OK, may be not 90% but certainly well above 80%.

China's GDP per capital in PPP terms is twice of the nominal GDP per capital. and the trend will be is upwards as poverty has been largely eliminated, while in USA the poors are getting poorer by the years.

https://www.thebalance.com/income-inequality-in-america-3306190

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_inequality_in_the_United_States

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/19/income-inequality-continues-to-grow-in-the-united-states.html

American economy is thriving for past what? 200 years or so? Chinese? just 30-40 years.
You omitted the great depression of the 1930s and how the Americans suffered.

China has its up and down, before the intervention of Western powers and imperial Japanese, China was the wealthiest country on Earth.

After the Opium Wars and the Eight nations invasions in Beijing and Tianjing, tens of billions of dollars of war reparation in silver were paid to US, Japan and other European countries, and this bankrupted China. Subsequent events like war between Chinese warlords, Japanese invasion, Chinese Civil war and Korean war etc drained all money that was in the coffer of China.

China right now is just recovering back its previous status as a world economic power which it had enjoyed for thousands of years, albeit in up and down cycles. The way the economic goes, no one can stop China regain its past economic status.

With US trade China grows faster, without US China will still grow with the rest of the World while US goes spiral down into protective state and isolate itself from global free trades.
 
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US has GDP per capital of $40K, true, but in real world, not many Americans have enjoyed such benefit of US economic wealth. US has one of the world's worst income disparity, meaning a very small group of people control 90% of the wealth in USA. OK, may be not 90% but certainly well above 80%.
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at 38.1 Gini, China is no better than US. Both are highly unequal. US is wealthier and has better social security.

China has its up and down, before the intervention of Western powers and imperial Japanese, China was the wealthiest country on Earth.

After the Opium Wars and the Eight nations invasions in Beijing and Tianjing, tens of billions of dollars of war reparation in silver were paid to US, Japan and other European countries, and this bankrupted China. Subsequent events like war between Chinese warlords, Japanese invasion, Chinese Civil war and Korean war etc drained all money that was in the coffer of China.

China right now is just recovering back its previous status as a world economic power which it had enjoyed for thousands of years, albeit in up and down cycles. The way the economic goes, no one can stop China regain its past economic status.

With US trade China grows faster, without US China will still grow with the rest of the World while US goes spiral down into protective state and isolate itself from global free trades.
If we go long back in History, even India was once very wealthy. Doesn't make their condition any better, now or in the near future. I don't buy this no can stop China BS. If conditions are adverse enough, China will fall.
 
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US wealth disparity is getting wider by the years, while in China wealth disparity is smaller, testified by the expanding poor families in USA.

50% of US families are finding it hard to provide for their members, and mostly are in debt. 850 millions Chinese have now been lifted from their hard core poor status, and enjoy better lives.

Indian is in the uncertain state, China is in up trend state with expanding domestic market, check your facts.
 
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This US graphic shows that the US, sadly, has seen both its inequality rise and its poor immiserised. The poorer half of the US population is now, on average, as poor as they were in 1989 or 1980. America has done a terrible job taking care of its poor.

The same picture of China’s inequality also shows, in the second panel, that the bottom half of China’s population has seen its average income quadruple over the same period. China’s inequality has risen, certainly, but so has upward mobility. The rate of average poor people’s income rise in China is higher even than that in the top 10% of the US population
 
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