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China & Russia Quit Dollar

China & Russia have decided to renounce the US dollar and resort to using their own currencies for bilateral trade, Premier Wen Jiabao and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin announced late on Tuesday.

Chinese experts said the move reflected closer relations between Beijing and Moscow and is not aimed at challenging the dollar, but to protect their domestic economies.

"About trade settlement, we have decided to use our own currencies," Putin said at a joint news conference with Wen in St. Petersburg.

The two countries were accustomed to using other currencies, especially the dollar, for bilateral trade. Since the financial crisis, however, high-ranking officials on both sides began to explore other possibilities.

The yuan has now started trading against the Russian rouble in the Chinese interbank market, while the renminbi will soon be allowed to trade against the rouble in Russia, Putin said.

"That has forged an important step in bilateral trade and it is a result of the consolidated financial systems of world countries," he said.

Putin made his remarks after a meeting with Wen. They also officiated at a signing ceremony for 12 documents, including energy cooperation.

The documents covered cooperation on aviation, railroad construction, customs, protecting intellectual property, culture and a joint communiqu. Details of the documents have yet to be released.

Putin said one of the pacts between the two countries is about the purchase of two nuclear reactors from Russia by China's Tianwan nuclear power plant, the most advanced nuclear power complex in China.

Putin has called for boosting sales of natural resources - Russia's main export - to China, but price has proven to be a sticking point.

Russian Deputy Prime Minister Igor Sechin, who holds sway over Russia's energy sector, said following a meeting with Chinese representatives that Moscow and Beijing are unlikely to agree on the price of Russian gas supplies to China before the middle of next year.

Russia is looking for China to pay prices similar to those Russian gas giant Gazprom charges its European customers, but Beijing wants a discount. The two sides were about $100 per 1,000 cubic meters apart, according to Chinese officials last week.

Wen's trip follows Russian President Dmitry Medvedev's three-day visit to China in September, during which he and President Hu Jintao launched a cross-border pipeline linking the world's biggest energy producer with the largest energy consumer.

Wen said at the press conference that the partnership between Beijing and Moscow has "reached an unprecedented level" and pledged the two countries will "never become each other's enemy".

Over the past year, "our strategic cooperative partnership endured strenuous tests and reached an unprecedented level," Wen said, adding the two nations are now more confident and determined to defend their mutual interests.

"China will firmly follow the path of peaceful development and support the renaissance of Russia as a great power," he said.

"The modernization of China will not affect other countries' interests, while a solid and strong Sino-Russian relationship is in line with the fundamental interests of both countries."

Wen said Beijing is willing to boost cooperation with Moscow in Northeast Asia, Central Asia and the Asia-Pacific region, as well as in major international organizations and on mechanisms in pursuit of a "fair and reasonable new order" in international politics and the economy.

Sun Zhuangzhi, a senior researcher in Central Asian studies at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, said the new mode of trade settlement between China and Russia follows a global trend after the financial crisis exposed the faults of a dollar-dominated world financial system.

Pang Zhongying, who specializes in international politics at Renmin University of China, said the proposal is not challenging the dollar, but aimed at avoiding the risks the dollar represents.

Wen arrived in the northern Russian city on Monday evening for a regular meeting between Chinese and Russian heads of government.

He left St. Petersburg for Moscow late on Tuesday and is set to meet with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev on Wednesday.

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China, Russia quit dollar
 
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A good move, for too long uncle sam has been printing papers to pay for the arab oil. Every country should follow suit. Iran and Venezuela are pioneers in this drive to root out the evil influence of dollar upon world economy.
 
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A good move, for too long uncle sam has been printing papers to pay for the arab oil. Every country should follow suit. Iran and Venezuela are pioneers in this drive to root out the evil influence of dollar upon world economy.

Do you think uncle Sam will sit quietly and let the world turn away from the dollar? Secondly what do you think will happen to the world economy if everyone turned away from the dollar and the dollar collapsed as a consequence?
I think this is a very local arrangement which will not upset the apple cart too much although you can bet the US will have a say on the matter.
Araz
 
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quitting the dollar will have minimal economic consequences but huge military ones when the US lashes out militarily.

don't force the mad dog to jump the fence, it will bite you.

the only way to avoid the US doing this is to develop enough nuclear missiles to turn the western hemisphere into radioactive smoke in order to strongly discourage any such actions by the US government.
 
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quitting the dollar will have minimal economic consequences but huge military ones when the US lashes out militarily.

don't force the mad dog to jump the fence, it will bite you.

the only way to avoid the US doing this is to develop enough nuclear missiles to turn the western hemisphere into radioactive smoke in order to strongly discourage any such actions by the US government.
Please do...I encourage China to take the lead...:D
 
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it seems the world is turning against us... and soon there will be leaks from wikileaks that will upset some of our allies....

This world would be **** if we where not in it.... you all can thank us later....

it seems a World War is inevitable.... America will win.

If not, the whole world would lose.
 
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it seems the world is turning against us... and soon there will be leaks from wikileaks that will upset some of our allies....

This world would be **** if we where not in it.... you all can thank us later....

it seems a World War is inevitable.... America will win.

If not, the whole world would lose.

That is a strange "me against the world" mentality.

Why do you think a World War is inevitable?
 
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it seems the world is turning against us... and soon there will be leaks from wikileaks that will upset some of our allies....

This world would be **** if we where not in it.... you all can thank us later....

it seems a World War is inevitable.... America will win.

If not, the whole world would lose.
Tell me honestly how old are you?
 
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well its a bilateral arrangement..Russia needs large quantities Chinese consumer goods and Chinese need the war toys..its gonna be almost barter!
 
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That is a strange "me against the world" mentality.

Why do you think a World War is inevitable?


North Korea is pushing it, and assure you that we will not be pushed around!

We should be Redeploying tactical nuclear weapons on South Korea's soil. Such move would not only make clear the seriousness of our intentions to Pyongyang, but also prove to China that it risks a nuclear war at its doorstep. This move would also signal to Iran what it can expect should it continue with its nuclear provocations.

I assure you guys that we are currently trying to prompt China to impose effective pressure on Pyongyang, or we will deploy nuclear weapons in South Korea, this would have a restraining effect on Iran on the nuclear front.

However, should the we show weakness, the North Korean model is expected to repeat in our region, in a doubly dangerous fashion.
 
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North Korea is pushing it, and assure you that we will not be pushed around!

We should be Redeploying tactical nuclear weapons on South Korea's soil. Such move would not only make clear the seriousness of our intentions to Pyongyang, but also prove to China that it risks a nuclear war at its doorstep. This move would also signal to Iran what it can expect should it continue with its nuclear provocations.

I assure you guys that we are currently trying to prompt China to impose effective pressure on Pyongyang, or we will deploy nuclear weapons in South Korea, this would have a restraining effect on Iran on the nuclear front.

However, should the we show weakness, the North Korean model is expected to repeat in our region, in a doubly dangerous fashion.

So North Korea + Iran both ignoring the USA will lead to a world war? Strange idea.

Well anyway, I just hope you sort out your Economy before you take yet another plunge.
 
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So North Korea + Iran both ignoring the USA will lead to a world war? Strange idea.
Nothing so strange. It depends on the subjects that are being ignored and the actions to follow.

Well anyway, I just hope you sort out your Economy before you take yet another plunge.
Thanks for your concern. We will come through and stronger than before.
 
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China & Russia have decided to renounce the US dollar and resort to using their own currencies for bilateral trade,


Recall our thread "Meltdown" of a couple of years ago - but alas, seems like no one can get through to our US friends.

With international transactions no longer being routed through New York, what might the implications be for US influence and authority in the world??

What happens if Iran similarly agrees to not use Dollar as a currency of exchange? What if this picks up and UAE does the same, what if Iraq is unable to resist the pressure to do so as well?????

Our US friends think bravado will suffice when in reality they have to awaken from the stupor of arrogance.
 
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Recall our thread "Meltdown" of a couple of years ago - but alas, seems like no one can get through to our US friends.

With international transactions no longer being routed through New York, what might the implications be for US influence and authority in the world??

What happens if Iran similarly agrees to not use Dollar as a currency of exchange? What if this picks up and UAE does the same, what if Iraq is unable to resist the pressure to do so as well?????

Our US friends think bravado will suffice when in reality they have to awaken from the stupor of arrogance.

never even think in opposite direction..the arab oil reserves and oil trade in dollar is what guarantees the dollar long term viability..arabs are simple too weak to make a maneuver.
 
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