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For many years, India has been dubbed the world’s biggest democracy, based on the country’s over 1 billion people. But that’s just not true, argues an op-ed in the Global Times, a Chinese state-run tabloid. In fact, that title belongs to China, says Han Zhen, head of Beijing Foreign Studies University—one the nation’s top schools for learning languages—in an Aug. 27 column (link in Chinese).

Western media outlets depict India as the “world’s biggest democracy” and describe Obama and Modi as leaders from ”the world’s two biggest democracies,” Han writes. By doing this, he argues, they nudge people towards an incorrect conclusion: that China is not a democracy.

“We need to not only criticize the fabricated Western democracy, but also clarify our own country’s democracy,” he argues, adding that China has the right to talk about and define its own democratic values. Han is also the director of a government-backed research center that exports Chinese culture.

THE GLOBAL TIMES
China’s Communist Party took power in 1947, and has since then ruled the country without a break, and without calling for a populist vote. Citizens who oppose or criticize the party and its leaders are regularly detained by the government, and state-backed censors closely monitor and control the information that’s available in the country, as well as individual speech on line.

So why is China a democracy? Han’s argument goes as follows:

The essence of the Western democracy is to keep capitalism running. Western democracy even differs in different Western countries. Why does China need to adhere to Western standards used to judge democracy?
Western democracy is not suitable to every country. He notes the Arab Spring, and Tunisia’s Jasmine Revolution. A country first needs orders and rules before it can enjoy democracy.
The National People’s Congress system is modern China’s democracy. Under it, each ethnic group and social class can take part in policy-making and choose their leadership, Han says. In some countries, by contrast, only a few powerful political families can be the leaders, as their democracy is controlled by capitalists and interest groups.
China’s democracy is not only about a right to vote. It’s also about democratic consultations on the economy, politics, culture, and various aspects of society.
China’s government system is clearly the most suitable one for China, he adds, considering the nation’s incredible development in the past decades. ”We should speak with great confidence that China is the world’s biggest democracy. If we don’t, it means we have admitted we are a non-democracy.”


@jamahir @Joe Shearer @beijingwalker What do you guys think? Is this claim true?

I only tagged communists because I want to know their perspective of their favourite country being democracy, at least on paper. Is this time to bring democracy in China?
 
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If democracy is to lead the good things to happen, in reality all good things happened in China, not in India.
But Global Times claim that you are the biggest democracy on earth. We are happy to be second to you.
 
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Using VPN to access defence.pk is also among the "good things" I guess...
Using VPN is because the internet is controlled by US. Who not even a minute has forgotten to attack China. If some day China has more influence in internet, US will build its firewall as well. Still remember American government wanted to ban Tiktok in US?

Edit: India also has its firewall. All Chinese APPs are blocked by Indian firewall.
 
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China is peculiar mix. Its neither democracy or dictatorship. Its a hybrid.
 
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Using VPN is because the internet is controlled by US. Who not even a minute has forgotten to attack China. If some day China has more influence in internet, US will build its firewall as well. Still remember American government wanted to ban Tiktok in US?

Edit: India also has its firewall. All Chinese APPs are blocked by Indian firewall.
Using VPN because Xitler hasn't allowed his slavish citizens to access certain websites that can insult him, not because "internet is controlled" by US.
What explains Xitler controlling own internet back home?

India does not have a firewall, we don't appreciate Chinese products, as blunt as that.
 
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Using VPN because Xitler hasn't allowed his slavish citizens to access certain websites that can insult him, not because "internet is controlled" by US.
What explains Xitler controlling own internet back home?

India does not have a firewall, we don't appreciate Chinese products, as blunt as that.
China's firewall is a filter. It only prevents gullible and ignorant people from being brainwashed. If Chinese government wants, it can easily block all VPNs.

Indians love Chinese APPs. Indian government banned them.
 
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@jamahir @Joe Shearer @beijingwalker What do you guys think? Is this claim true?

I only tagged communists because I want to know their perspective of their favourite country being democracy, at least on paper. Is this time to bring democracy in China?

I didn't get the tag for the OP and just happened to see the thread now so am responding now.

If India is not a democracy, which it is not and borrows its political and socio-economic system from Western Capitalist two-party dictatorships like USA and Britain but adds its own culture-based chaos, then China is also far from being a democracy. China claims to be Communist but Communism desires the abolition of the State and for the people to govern and manage themselves directly without a party or superboss like president or prime minister or a parliament that represents only the power of the parties and of other traditional power structures like of the moneyed class or ethnic class. China has a party, superbosses and a party parliament that does not consult every citizen in the country but instead represents the power of the military, the party, the ethnic classes and the Capitalist, the last existing despite the governance system calling itself a Communist arrangement but instead maintaining an Capitalist, anti-Communist socio-economic class system of very rich class, rich class, middle class and poor class. While the very rich of China live in penthouses and splurge on yachts, change their expensive sports cars every four months and have expensive European handbags the poor have to live in slums and struggle for basic things while the middle class and the aspiring middle class have to become slave labor in factories doing 12 hour shifts and sleep in the factory and the IT and finance companies where they must do the 996 Culture ( toil from 9 AM to 9 PM for six times a week in businesses that are mostly useless to humanity ) and workers who was taken overseas are grabbed of their passport and told that if they protest their deprived work conditions they will be left in the foreign land without passport and without money. China also has stock exchanges where the system encourages the citizen to gamble money, lose and suicide by jumping into steel furnaces and off buildings but after the citizen's suicide the rankings of the Capitalist companies go on, many go up relentlessly. The suicided person is forgotten as a statistic in China's 1.4 billion. The Capitalist lives and is celebrated. So if there is democracy in China it is only among the select club of the military, the party, the bureaucrats and of course the Capitalist. China is a dictatorship of the Party, the military and the Capitalist.

Please read this post of mine on deciding the basis of democracy and where originated the concept of Democracy and where it was implemented in the modern world.

Lastly, China is certainly not my favorite country, a country that kills cats, celebrates Capitalists and hasn't militarily helped Russia in Syria and Ukraine despite having a huge military that is well-equipped and is supposedly a friend of Russia.

China is peculiar mix. Its neither democracy or dictatorship. Its a hybrid.

No, it is a dictatorship. Please read above. :)
 
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Using VPN to access defence.pk is also among the "good things" I guess...
As if India dont ban media and apps like Tiktok with media control? Talking about hypocrisy...




You have no right to criticize China media control. You are in the same boat. If India is not in favor of western. Soon anti India news will flood the world media and India will do the same as China with VPN.
 
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Of course it's true.
In fact, the likes of india which call itself a democracy while letting 6 mil+ of its people die from c19, just to name one of many tragedies in india, are responsible for the most damage done to the concept of democracy worldwide.

It goes without saying the other one most responsible for damage to democracy is u know who, who shouts about democary all day long while letting 1 mil+ of its people die, again just naming one of many tragedies in that country.
 
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China's firewall is a filter. It only prevents gullible and ignorant people from being brainwashed. If Chinese government wants, it can easily block all VPNs.

Indians love Chinese APPs. Indian government banned them.

Too man Han are gullible and ignorant, that's why I called Chinese slavish.
They are like little pups who need a constant eye or else might get run over by car.
They need to be taught what's good behaviour and what's not, and barking against their mastaaah will attract steep punishment.

It still doesn't explain why China censors it's own internet, why Peng Shuai's allegations were wiped off etcetera.

No, Indians don't love Chinese apps or products. Wherever and whenever there is an alternative, Indians will drop anything related to China quicker than a hot potato. Please don't hang on to such fantasies. :dirol:
 
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No, it is a dictatorship. Please read above. :)

No. A dictator is not elected or bound to any form of voting. They ususally has free reign to implement their policies with very little or no consideration for voterbank presure.

China is a single party state where its leaders has to present themselves as candidates and then be elected by the communist party; representatives in the peoples hall, if i am correct. The representatives themselves has to be elected from local grassroot members and bodies.
 
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As if India dont ban media and apps like Tiktok with media control? Talking about hypocrisy...




You have no right to criticize China media control. You are in the same boat. If India is not in favor of western. Soon anti India news will flood the world media and India will do the same as China with VPN.
Looks like you didn't get the memo, we are not interested in giving China a share of our pie.

Have to be a low IQ Han to compare India and China on "media control", have you ever picked up our newspaper in your life?

Of course it's true.
In fact, the likes of india which call itself a democracy while letting 6 mil+ of its people die from c19, just to name one of many tragedies in india, are responsible for the most damage done to the concept of democracy worldwide.

It goes without saying the other one most responsible for damage to democracy is u know who, who shouts about democary all day long while letting 1 mil+ of its people die, again just naming one of many tragedies in that country.

Can't fathom how these daily wagers keep a straight face while writing such asinine shit, has Xitler blocked everything related to the Great Leap Forward in Chinese schools?
 
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Too man Han are gullible and ignorant, that's why I called Chinese slavish.
They are like little pups who need a constant eye or else might get run over by car.
They need to be taught what's good behaviour and what's not, and barking against their mastaaah will attract steep punishment.

It still doesn't explain why China censors it's own internet, why Peng Shuai's allegations were wiped off etcetera.

No, Indians don't love Chinese apps or products. Wherever and whenever there is an alternative, Indians will drop anything related to China quicker than a hot potato. Please don't hang on to such fantasies. :dirol:
I do believe majority people are ignorant and gullible. And they should not lecture on politics for their own good. One person one vote type of democracy is wrong from root. I don't want to waste time talking about that. We just wait and see which country will be the winner.
 
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