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China must relax birth controls to defuse population time bomb, top think tank warns

That's simply untrue. You have in mind members of the higher social classes, well-educated and well-off skilled Indian workers. That's not who China needs, China has plenty of its own people that can do those jobs.

What it needs are Indian nurses to wipe the behinds of elderly Chinese and unskilled construction workers who can build skyscrapers. India has plenty of such people, and will have plenty more in the years to come -- they did this for Dubai:
Nope! Japan's work visa was looking for construction workers, factory workers and what not. Didn't happen! Who will learn Japanese or Chinese for low wages and no chance of settling.

I doubt Chinese can pay as much as they pay in Dubai. An unskilled labour in Dubai can make around 41000 AED about 12000 USD. Chinese pay their own unskilled workers about 3300 Yuan per month or about 500 dollars amounting to 6000 USD per year.

As far as nursing staff goes, I also don't see that happening. There are better avenues for Indian nursing grads: Mostly UK, Australia, Canada. They have much faster and much greyer population plus they pay better with a chance to settle. China has to compete hard for them. May be China will sponsor their education with condition of working in China for few years upon graduation.
 
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I don't know if it's as high as a third, but I don't have any trouble believing that at a very significant percentage of Chinese births (especially of female first babies) went unreported, particularly in rural areas.

I don't know why one body has such a ridiculously low estimate for the TFR - I find it very hard to believe, quite frankly. If the situation is that bad then the Chinese government should implement a law that bars any childless person from a state pension and grants couples with only one child a partial pension.

If as high as a third of the births are unreported, then it creates another set of problems. A third of newborns are invisible in the eyes of the state and aren't entitled to any public services which require any form of identification? That's even harder to believe.

It might be ridiculous to believe at first glance but it's actually plausible if you analyze it. After all the OCP is still in place in 2015 so the 'official' number of children you can have is 1, or 2 if your first is a female. Add in the fact that not all females are married, and not all married females have a child. I do believe that there are unreported births, but definitely not as high as a third.

Based on the sampling, the TFR from 2010 to 2014 is 1.18、1.04、1.26、1.24、1.28. So the average is around 1.2 which is very plausible.

We'll see how it goes since the OCP is abolished and the incentive to hide the births from the authorities is reduced.
 
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I doubt Chinese can pay as much as they pay in Dubai. An unskilled labour in Dubai can make around 41000 AED about 12000 USD. Chinese pay their own unskilled workers about 3300 Yuan per month or about 500 dollars amounting to 6000 USD per year.
Lol, try less than half that. This article from 2015:
https://www.thenational.ae/business...g-costs-soar-and-wages-rise-back-home-1.17000
has the salary at 1600 AED per month (up from 1200), which comes up to around 5250 USD per year. So China, still developing, can afford to hire Indian workers en masse if it needed to. What do you think a much richer future China would be able to do?
 
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Lol, try less than half that. This article from 2015:
https://www.thenational.ae/business...g-costs-soar-and-wages-rise-back-home-1.17000
has the salary at 1600 AED per month (up from 1200), which comes up to around 5250 USD per year. So China, still developing, can afford to hire Indian workers en masse if it needed to. What do you think a much richer future China would be able to do?
AED 41000 includes benefits as well. BTW, UAE salaries have no taxation while China does. So forget about being . able to afford Indian labour in China. If you had read the article, it has said that they are not able to recruit Indian labourers for 1800 AED per month in cash due to increased opportunities back home.

China may consider hiring Pakistani and Nepali workers. Their home industry has been destroyed due to years of domestic turmoil and in Pakistan's case, CPEC.
 
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AED 41000 includes benefits as well.
Source?
If you had read the article, it has said that they are not able to recruit Indian labourers for 1800 AED per month in cash due to increased opportunities back home.
We aren't reading the same article or you're just making stuff up. I'm starting to think that a lot of the stuff you write is made up, so I just checked the average Chinese construction worker's salary and it's closer to 8000 USD. The number you quoted is the average rural migrant worker's salary, not a construction worker's salary.
China may consider hiring Pakistani and Nepali workers.
To be sure. But no country on Earth is capable of producing the vast, impoverished human waves India is. Fortunately, that spigot will never run dry.
 
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You make me laugh. China seems to have learned 'Chinese Exceptionalism' from USA first before learning critical thinking. There are many issues in what you are proposing.

1. If automation was the answer, then why the heck you need to have automated factories in China? It can be closer to consumption!
2. I wonder how will you capture 'skin color' in your immigration policy. It will look really nice.
3. Chinese tommorow is Japan of today. Sure as hell Japanese are feeling the sustained slow down and burden of supporting a huge aging population. You can try, but it is very doubtful that you will be able to beat them.

Hi Shajida, long time no see, please stop using your fake gender and name please. :D.

1) Why can't you have automated factories in China with a captive demand and also supply chain plus industrial clusters? Automation is not going to eliminate all workers, it is just gonna reduce repeatitive manual task and increase production. It is however going to reduce the amount of workers tremendously.

See this video, the Vietnamnese embrave automation while the Indian gives excuses. In the end, you will understand.

Another on IT automation.

https://qz.com/1152683/indian-it-layoffs-in-2017-top-56000-led-by-tcs-infosys-cognizant/

2) You will understand if you go to HK, no non-Chinese have ever gotten citizenship and trust me, Chinese in general do not like dark skinned people in their admixture. South East Asians, Punjabis/Jatts, Central Asians are acceptable, not Ganga Hindus tho.

3) So what is so bad about Japan today? They are way more developed than India, their people live better lives and their living quality is definitely better. Have you ever been to Japan? If there is one country China can definitely learn from, it is Japan, the only problem is their country is not big enough. There is nothing wrong with a slowdown, humans cannot keep on growing forever and ever, you need to start understanding this concept. There is no point producing millions of starving and stunted kids while destroying the environment. China is trying to reverse this, grow less and with more quality. India is heading the exact opposite direction. Even without China scale industrialization, Indian pollution is worse, and the water situation is getting really really bad. India extracts more ground water than China and US combined. Punjab your breadbasket is dying.....please wake up my dear supa powan. For humanity

Another fallacy! Its quite the opposite. In most capitalist and most developed economies, women have childern much later in their lives and much lesser. Look at Japan, Canada, Germany and you will see your future in terms of demographics.
Women are given a choice, you as a 'women' should know this right?:enjoy: In India, they are made into baby producing machines, the women are not even allowed to work, look at your female employment participation rates. I believe with better living quality and less stress, with proper maternal support, populations will 'stabilize'. I am not seeking for a population boom, as long as it stabilizes, humanity is saved. We cannot keep on growing like India, the earth cannot support this many people.

That's simply untrue. You have in mind members of the higher social classes, well-educated and well-off skilled Indian workers. That's not who China needs, China has plenty of its own people that can do those jobs.

What it needs are Indian nurses to wipe the behinds of elderly Chinese and unskilled construction workers who can build skyscrapers. India has plenty of such people, and will have plenty more in the years to come -- they did this for Dubai:
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They can do the same for a future China.

You think I'm talking about Indians immigrating to China, settling down, raising families, etc. Nothing of the sort; what I have in mind is, to put this bluntly, more like wage-slavery. As for factories "moving", whether to India or elsewhere, this is a vastly overblown phenomenon. What's actually happening is that factories are automating and staying put, and more of that will occur as robotics technology advances.

That is really bad news for India. It's great news for China because it kills two birds with one stone -- improves the productivity of the workforce and ameliorates any demographic problems.
Bro, use Filipinos instead, Chinese grandmas don't like dark people wiping their asses. Filipinos in general are awesome service providers, you see more and more call centers going there, Americans can't stand the Indian accent.

AED 41000 includes benefits as well. BTW, UAE salaries have no taxation while China does. So forget about being . able to afford Indian labour in China. If you had read the article, it has said that they are not able to recruit Indian labourers for 1800 AED per month in cash due to increased opportunities back home.

China may consider hiring Pakistani and Nepali workers. Their home industry has been destroyed due to years of domestic turmoil and in Pakistan's case, CPEC.
Shajida, you need wake up, India is not exactly a rich coutnry, it is one of the poorest countries on earth, the reason the poor pool of workers are not exported is because of your government policy. You are exporting your middle class, and your poor are too poor to even get exported for work.

The issue is not just the size of population but the composition as well. It has happened before. Japan is essentially China in about another 30-50 years. A huge aging population and a small young working force.

This is a very very well founded fear. China may grow older first before growing richer.
I don't mind being another Japan man. Have you been there bhai? You are assuming, the Japanese will go extinct? :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:. SUPA POWA. So how much is enough, 2 billion? Hell everybody should just reproduce like the Indians and China should have 3 billion, then we will be a supa powa. Logics, common sense and critical thinking bhai. Having a billion starving, unemployed and uneducated Indians is a timebomb, WAKE UP!:china:

Rapidly.

All developed societies are aging, including the Western society. However the reduction in their TFR is gradual, while for China it's rapid because of the OCP which led to an unnatural population pyramid.

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As I stated earlier, this is the painful process we have to go through after decades of reckless population growth in the 50s/60s. There is no other way for a rapid reduction than OCP, with it comes a period where the population drop will be dramatic. 2 child policy will smoothen the drop alot, but the population overall will still drop. The carrying capacity for China is around 500-800mil. Current Chinese population is not sustainable, as does India.

The fact is most economist does.

And it's not only about the productivity, it's the society's ability to support the elderly in healthcare and social security along with a decreasing labor force. Taxes have to go up.
You need to understand the difference in quality of elderly care in China vs the West, sad to say alot of poor old people in China will die without the same quality of medical care in the West. Example, if you are poor and old, the hospitals will not prolong your life, they will just let you die if you are 80 or something. With a decreasing labor force but increase in wages and productivity plus working age, why can't you support them? By your logic, all western societies would have imploded by now? Taxes will go up with income growth, that's the inevitable.

Of course, East Asia is not going to extinct lmao.

As I said, immigration isn't feasible in China due to the sheer scale. Especially if you only want people from fairer skinned nations which the pool is shrinking too.

Do you consider Southeast Asia as one of the 'fairer-skinned'?
East Asia and Caucasians will continue to live good lives while poor countries like India will continue to be the workers. You need to understand the function of money, there is no use if Indians earn all those billions in outsourcing but the country is a shit hole. Money is meant to be spent to improve your country and living standard. SEAsians are still acceptable, not dark Gangetic Indians, Pakistanis, Central Asians are OK too, but they have to assimilate to Chinese culture and alot do.


If look at the statistics, 2 kids is actually the most common in Singapore and Japan among married couples; around 40% in Singapore. 3 kids is also surprisingly common at around 20%, as common as 1 kid.

So what's the caveat here? 30% of our women are single and not married. That significantly pulls down our total fertility rate, which include non-married women. Our married females actually have a average of 2.1 children.

https://data.gov.sg/dataset/average...group-of-resident-ever-married-females-annual

Here's an extract from an article in China.



http://opinion.caixin.com/2016-10-31/101002084.html

In Singapore, at least 3 in 10 woman have '0' children because they are unmarried. That explains the low TFR.


A reduced population isn't the crux of the problem, but the aging of the population is.
An aging population is inevitable if you want to reduce 1.4 billion to 500-800million. This is the pain we have to go through. I would be happy if China can reach TFR around 2.2 once we hit 500-800mil, then let the population fluctuate with a good environment.
 
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Hi Shajida, long time no see, please stop using your fake gender and name please. :D.
:lol: Yeah right! Chinese foresight! Only faker are Chinese folks here who work for 0.5 cents per post. Just don't let warden get you, 'Han Patriot', eh?
1) Why can't you have automated factories in China with a captive demand and also supply chain plus industrial clusters? Automation is not going to eliminate all workers, it is just gonna reduce repeatitive manual task and increase production. It is however going to reduce the amount of workers tremendously.
Before China came, supply chain and demand both existed in USA and Europe. Already many of lower skill production has already left China to places like Bangladesh and Philippines. True, automation is not going to eliminate all workers but then most of your exports are going to disappear. Why will anyone want to manufacture in China and then transport it to say USA or Europe when the factories can be located in Europe or USA with minimal requirement of workforce. The only reason companies like Apple are still using Chinese vendors is because of large number skilled and semi skilled technicians.

See this video, the Vietnamnese embrave automation while the Indian gives excuses. In the end, you will understand.
Each country uses her resources accordingly. India has a huge human resource. BTW, all the Industrial automation that you are doing right now had existed in Japan way back from 1980s and 90s. Japan has been facing population crunch since 1990s and for them automation was even more relevant. This didn't stop China from becoming a manufacturing power house. Upshot is the price point and bottomline. If automated manufacturing needs 3 billion dollar worth of investment while human labour is available for 30 thousand dollar for the same task, automation will not be economically viable.

I don't mind being another Japan man. Have you been there bhai? You are assuming, the Japanese will go extinct? :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:. SUPA POWA. So how much is enough, 2 billion? Hell everybody should just reproduce like the Indians and China should have 3 billion, then we will be a supa powa. Logics, common sense and critical thinking bhai. Having a billion starving, unemployed and uneducated Indians is a timebomb, WAKE UP!:china:
I guess you Chinese are illiterate at-least when it comes to English. I never said that you need a huge population. You need a large enough young workforce to support your older generation. Chinese will get demographically similar to Japanese because of stupidity of Chinese Communist Party. Economically? I don't know. But then I think nuances of critical thinking and may be reading reading? :rofl: :rofl: are beyond a Chinese brain. Better learn it and then come back. You neither know Logics [sic] nor common sense and leave critical thinking. BTW, you also dont know the proper use of word 'bhai'.
 
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Oh yeah? Prove it then. If not, shut your trap. The only fake here is you and your bigoted mind! Guess Chinese are still hurt about beating of WW2! :rofl:
Ok, you seems to be a 'female' advocating uncontrolled birth? I doubt my wife thinks like that tho. :rofl:. What has WW2 got to do with population growth? I still admire Japanese work ethics and development even though they did atrocities during WW2. I am an advocate of learning from Japan.

Before China came, supply chain and demand both existed and already many of lower skill production has left China. True, automation is not going to eliminate all workers but then most of your exports are going to disappear. Why will anyone want to manufacture in China and then transport it to say USA or Europe when the factories can be located in Europe or USA with minimal requirement of workforce. The only reason companies like Apple are still using Chinese vendors is because of skilled and semi skilled technicians.
You need to know history? The supply chain and industrial base all moved to China in the late 80s onwards. This dilution of Western industrial base meant China is now the supply chain of the world. They moved to China due to cheaper labor not because of technology. China is now well placed to exploit this current situation, we are the supply chain of the world, why not modernize our production base to be more productive and cheaper cutting off excess workers, since our workforce is shrinking anyway. With this in place, we will continue to monopolize manufacturing using robots instead of humans, while delivering more goods at a competitive price. Countries like India attempting to use cheap labour as an incentive to take over this pie would face obstacles since manufacturing will not be about cheap labor anymore. Coupled this with the world's largest consumer market, we will continue to dominate the manufacturing sector with less workforce.

Each country uses her resources accordingly. India has a huge human resource. BTW, all the Industrial automation that you are doing right now had existed in Japan way back from 1980s and 90s. Japan has been facing population crunch since 1990s and for them automation was even more relevant.
You are comparing 1980/90s robotics technology to current AI enabled robotics technology with precision nimble mechanisms? I give up bhai, I give up. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:.

A resource is a resource when you can utilize them. Else they become a liability. Going by your logic, all western countries with aging and smaller populations would be poorer than India, and yet you are migrating to those places in the millions? Japan even with de-industrialization still has more job opportunities for their people than a typical Indian grad. Have you been to Japan? Go there, it is truly the most beautiful country on earth, if we can replicate that efficiency and management to China. It would be awesome.



I guess you Chinese are illiterate at-least when it comes to English. I never said that you need a huge population. You need a large enough young workforce to support you older generation. Chinese will demographically similar to Japanese because of stupidity of Chinese Communist Party. Economically? I dont know. But then I think nuances of critical thinking and may be reading reading? :rofl: :rofl: are beyond a Chinese brain. Better learn it and then come back. You neither know Logics [sic] common sense and leave critical thinking. BTW, you also dont know the proper use of word 'bhai'.

The problem is, for you to have a huge young population, you need a huge population, it's not like India is gonna be 100 million in population with 80% youngsters right? You are now gonna overtake China in 5 years time? Why are we stupid to have OCP? We managed to reduce 300 mil mouths to feed, clothe and provide jobs. You know how many diapers my baby uses? How much pollution an average 'middle class' produces? India without the kind of central planning and competency like China will drown inshit, which you already are. It took us 20 years of hard work to reverse desertification. You are heading towards a demographic time bomb and environmental disaster and you are not even realizing it. Money is but a tool for the betterment of society. There is no use growing and growing at the expense of the environment, been there and done that, now China is trying to build a quality society, a happy and healthy society.

It's common sense bhai. HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH? 2 billion? 3 billion? By your theory we would all be superpowers if we have a few billion more people. If your theory that you need to keep on having a younger population, it also means you need to continuously have more people, that's the only way to get more younger people than older people in a given population.

Yet the truth is those nice countries to live in all have less people with a lot of living space. Explain that.
 
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Hi Shajida, long time no see, please stop using your fake gender and name please. :D.

1) Why can't you have automated factories in China with a captive demand and also supply chain plus industrial clusters? Automation is not going to eliminate all workers, it is just gonna reduce repeatitive manual task and increase production. It is however going to reduce the amount of workers tremendously.

See this video, the Vietnamnese embrave automation while the Indian gives excuses. In the end, you will understand.

Another on IT automation.

https://qz.com/1152683/indian-it-layoffs-in-2017-top-56000-led-by-tcs-infosys-cognizant/

2) You will understand if you go to HK, no non-Chinese have ever gotten citizenship and trust me, Chinese in general do not like dark skinned people in their admixture. South East Asians, Punjabis/Jatts, Central Asians are acceptable, not Ganga Hindus tho.

3) So what is so bad about Japan today? They are way more developed than India, their people live better lives and their living quality is definitely better. Have you ever been to Japan? If there is one country China can definitely learn from, it is Japan, the only problem is their country is not big enough. There is nothing wrong with a slowdown, humans cannot keep on growing forever and ever, you need to start understanding this concept. There is no point producing millions of starving and stunted kids while destroying the environment. China is trying to reverse this, grow less and with more quality. India is heading the exact opposite direction. Even without China scale industrialization, Indian pollution is worse, and the water situation is getting really really bad. India extracts more ground water than China and US combined. Punjab your breadbasket is dying.....please wake up my dear supa powan. For humanity


Women are given a choice, you as a 'women' should know this right?:enjoy: In India, they are made into baby producing machines, the women are not even allowed to work, look at your female employment participation rates. I believe with better living quality and less stress, with proper maternal support, populations will 'stabilize'. I am not seeking for a population boom, as long as it stabilizes, humanity is saved. We cannot keep on growing like India, the earth cannot support this many people.


Bro, use Filipinos instead, Chinese grandmas don't like dark people wiping their asses. Filipinos in general are awesome service providers, you see more and more call centers going there, Americans can't stand the Indian accent.


Shajida, you need wake up, India is not exactly a rich coutnry, it is one of the poorest countries on earth, the reason the poor pool of workers are not exported is because of your government policy. You are exporting your middle class, and your poor are too poor to even get exported for work.


I don't mind being another Japan man. Have you been there bhai? You are assuming, the Japanese will go extinct? :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:. SUPA POWA. So how much is enough, 2 billion? Hell everybody should just reproduce like the Indians and China should have 3 billion, then we will be a supa powa. Logics, common sense and critical thinking bhai. Having a billion starving, unemployed and uneducated Indians is a timebomb, WAKE UP!:china:


As I stated earlier, this is the painful process we have to go through after decades of reckless population growth in the 50s/60s. There is no other way for a rapid reduction than OCP, with it comes a period where the population drop will be dramatic. 2 child policy will smoothen the drop alot, but the population overall will still drop. The carrying capacity for China is around 500-800mil. Current Chinese population is not sustainable, as does India.


You need to understand the difference in quality of elderly care in China vs the West, sad to say alot of poor old people in China will die without the same quality of medical care in the West. Example, if you are poor and old, the hospitals will not prolong your life, they will just let you die if you are 80 or something. With a decreasing labor force but increase in wages and productivity plus working age, why can't you support them? By your logic, all western societies would have imploded by now? Taxes will go up with income growth, that's the inevitable.


East Asia and Caucasians will continue to live good lives while poor countries like India will continue to be the workers. You need to understand the function of money, there is no use if Indians earn all those billions in outsourcing but the country is a shit hole. Money is meant to be spent to improve your country and living standard. SEAsians are still acceptable, not dark Gangetic Indians, Pakistanis, Central Asians are OK too, but they have to assimilate to Chinese culture and alot do.



An aging population is inevitable if you want to reduce 1.4 billion to 500-800million. This is the pain we have to go through. I would be happy if China can reach TFR around 2.2 once we hit 500-800mil, then let the population fluctuate with a good environment.
indian population has lower quality than north koreans....
Check the hunger index....

They have no future in this ongoing industrial revolution....
They first have to compete with Sub-Sahara Africa.
Low-quality people are less important than animals in the farm.
At least they provide protein to human beings.

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Anaemia as a public health problem by country- Non-pregnant women of reproductive age.png
 
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indian population has lower quality than north koreans....
Check the hunger index....

They have no future in this ongoing industrial revolution....
They first have to compete with Sub-Sahara Africa.
Low-quality people are less important than animals in the farm.
At least they provide protein to human beings.

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You just can't comprehend the Indian mind, they think very differently. Delusional and idealistic. They just believe whatever the West says, 'demographic dividend' bla bla bla. If they use some common sense, Africa would have been a super power, not Japan and Korea with their puny populations.
 
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a deluded Indian saying China cant afford Indian labour? lol````

firstly, there is no such thing of abundance of "skilled" Indian labour in the first place, its just India's high wannabe propaganda, most Indian are unemployable, only like 1% of their workforce are up to the modern day skilled jobs, and most of them are either working at North American or Europe```

secondly, in order to work in China for Chinese local companies, you need to speak Manderian, at least at entry level, then you need to have a proper work ethic, but when Indian's work ethic is concerned``boastful, laziness, lack of integrity```lol, no thanks

lastly, there are loads of Chinese high tech firms setting up operation centres in India lately, because they are cheap and market is big (seemly), and the feed back got from them (especially from Huawei, Alibaba and OPPO) was generally unpleasent. The so-called "IT superpower" has very lousy and primitive IT skills, so they have to send in Chinese supervisors and senior staffs to India for tech support, which costing lots of additional money````

finally, it is always funny to see whenever a deluded Indian got lost in a debate, and started using this "you Chinese $uck at English" counter-attack trick``, 300 years Englsih rule really made them pround :lol:
 
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:lol: Yeah right! Chinese foresight! Only faker are Chinese folks here who work for 0.5 cents per post. Just don't let warden get you, 'Han Patriot', eh?

Before China came, supply chain and demand both existed in USA and Europe. Already many of lower skill production has already left China to places like Bangladesh and Philippines. True, automation is not going to eliminate all workers but then most of your exports are going to disappear. Why will anyone want to manufacture in China and then transport it to say USA or Europe when the factories can be located in Europe or USA with minimal requirement of workforce. The only reason companies like Apple are still using Chinese vendors is because of large number skilled and semi skilled technicians.


Each country uses her resources accordingly. India has a huge human resource. BTW, all the Industrial automation that you are doing right now had existed in Japan way back from 1980s and 90s. Japan has been facing population crunch since 1990s and for them automation was even more relevant. This didn't stop China from becoming a manufacturing power house. Upshot is the price point and bottomline. If automated manufacturing needs 3 billion dollar worth of investment while human labour is available for 30 thousand dollar for the same task, automation will not be economically viable.


I guess you Chinese are illiterate at-least when it comes to English. I never said that you need a huge population. You need a large enough young workforce to support your older generation. Chinese will get demographically similar to Japanese because of stupidity of Chinese Communist Party. Economically? I don't know. But then I think nuances of critical thinking and may be reading reading? :rofl: :rofl: are beyond a Chinese brain. Better learn it and then come back. You neither know Logics [sic] nor common sense and leave critical thinking. BTW, you also dont know the proper use of word 'bhai'.
He he he. China versus India. Who will win the demographic war. Well only time will tell. Western narrative on China ? When was it ever right.

As far as I am concern India already lost the demographic war. Not sure about China though. Time will tell.
 
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indian population has lower quality than north koreans....
Check the hunger index....

They have no future in this ongoing industrial revolution....
They first have to compete with Sub-Sahara Africa.
Low-quality people are less important than animals in the farm.
At least they provide protein to human beings.

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Why the heck are you brining India in this discussion, I thought it was about China? Guess too much to expect from Chinese SUPA HIGH IQ. Your all colourful maps are irrelevant in this discussion. Tell your wanden that you have failed to fulfill todays quota of 'posting'.
 
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a deluded Indian saying China cant afford Indian labour? lol````

firstly, there is no such thing of abundance of "skilled" Indian labour in the first place, its just India's high wannabe propaganda, most Indian are unemployable, only like 1% of their workforce are up to the modern day skilled jobs, and most of them are either working at North American or Europe```

secondly, in order to work in China for Chinese local companies, you need to speak Manderian, at least at entry level, then you need to have a proper work ethic, but when Indian's work ethic is concerned``boastful, laziness, lack of integrity```lol, no thanks

lastly, there are loads of Chinese high tech firms setting up operation centres in India lately, because they are cheap and market is big (seemly), and the feed back got from them (especially from Huawei, Alibaba and OPPO) was generally unpleasent. The so-called "IT superpower" has very lousy and primitive IT skills, so they have to send in Chinese supervisors and senior staffs to India for tech support, which costing lots of additional money````

finally, it is always funny to see whenever a deluded Indian got lost in a debate, and started using this "you Chinese $uck at English" counter-attack trick``, 300 years Englsih rule really made them pround :lol:
Exactly....
You just can't rely on those low-skill sell-claimed indian experts....
Foreign companies have to hire non-locals.
Those local IT expert/STEM graduates have lower productivity per capita than Sub-Sahara Africans.
Forget about their call centre style english and work ethics.....
They have no future in this ongoing AI/automation war.
 
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a deluded Indian saying China cant afford Indian labour? lol````

firstly, there is no such thing of abundance of "skilled" Indian labour in the first place, its just India's high wannabe propaganda, most Indian are unemployable, only like 1% of their workforce are up to the modern day skilled jobs, and most of them are either working at North American or Europe```

secondly, in order to work in China for Chinese local companies, you need to speak Manderian, at least at entry level, then you need to have a proper work ethic, but when Indian's work ethic is concerned``boastful, laziness, lack of integrity```lol, no thanks

lastly, there are loads of Chinese high tech firms setting up operation centres in India lately, because they are cheap and market is big (seemly), and the feed back got from them (especially from Huawei, Alibaba and OPPO) was generally unpleasent. The so-called "IT superpower" has very lousy and primitive IT skills, so they have to send in Chinese supervisors and senior staffs to India for tech support, which costing lots of additional money````

finally, it is always funny to see whenever a deluded Indian got lost in a debate, and started using this "you Chinese $uck at English" counter-attack trick``, 300 years Englsih rule really made them pround :lol:
Well, the thread is about China so stick to that.
 
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