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China making N-reactor copies to sell to Pakistan - The Times of India



NEW DELHI: China will be able to sidestep global nuclear commerce rules when it sells its third generation nuclear reactors to Pakistan, making its sale a win-win deal for both countries.

China has reverse-engineered Westinghouse's AP-1000 reactor to build an indigenous reactor, which, officials said, is a clever copy of the original. With Pakistani nuclear officials travelling several times this year to China as they work on a contract, the "indigenized" Chinese reactor will help Beijing overcome a key objection by the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) that forbids sale of nuclear reactors or components to third countries without NSG approval and without an NPT signature.

The Chinese reactors in Pakistan will be under IAEA safeguards that make them safer and lesser cause for worry in India. But Indian officials are much more concerned about nuclear weapons and missiles that China is reportedly helping Pakistan with. That, senior Indian officials say, is a greater cause for concern.

China has not yet tested the design of its indigenized reactor but this is the one that will be sold to Pakistan, scheduled to be installed in Karachi. According to sources here, China National Nuclear Corporation (CNNC) has claimed it has indigenously designed and developed a third-generation nuclear power reactor which they have named as the Advanced China Pressurised (ACP)-1000. China has reportedly indigenized most of the reactor components, which will be sold to Pakistan bypassing NSG requirements, under a grandfathering clause. Reports say Beijing is planning to install the first Chinese reactor in Fujian province.

China was helped in this when Westinghouse sold its first reactor to China in 2007, China insisted on transfer of technology. According to a leaked cable by the US Consul General in Shanghai, "Chinese government made it very clear that failure to transfer AP1000 technology would have been a deal-breaker, and Westinghouse would have lost the contract." The US official quotes a Westinghouse official as saying, "Westinghouse expressed the pragmatic view that, "If people are going to reverse engineer or copy nuclear technology, Westinghouse would prefer that people copy Westinghouse technology." The Chinese contract was the biggest ever at $8 billion.

India is negotiating the purchase of two AP1000 reactors from Westinghouse — a pre-early works agreement was signed during PM Manmohan Singh's recent visit to the US. But it is not clear that India would be getting any technology transfer of the variety that the Chinese have received from the American company.

China's indigenization programme is aimed at being able to provide more nuclear reactors to other customers in the world. There has been little Western protest against Chinese decision to sell such reactors to Pakistan. When China does begin building nuclear reactors in Pakistan, experts reckon, Beijing will still need to import a fair number of components from other industrialized nations. This would be seriously flouting NSG rules.

Indian officials say China helps the Pakistan nuclear programme in a myriad different ways. For example, China sends its nuclear experts under the IAEA umbrella to undertake safety missions in Pakistan that Western officials avoid due to security problems
 
indias reaction:

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Lol just business why is indian behind on fire? :lol:....

You guys overestimate yourself too much....you love to think Indians are always worried about you....which is not true.....
In an other thread you guys were saying that Indians are crying about a pakistani movie being funded by ISI....while the fact is, apart from PDF Indians, probably no-one else knows about the film in India and I haven't seen any PDF Indian complaining about the film....
In this thread, you claim that Indians are going to cry about the reactor.....but we don't give a damn.....we know the 'Chinese maal' won't work.....it will probably melt down during operation killing Pakistanis.......forgot about the imported Chinese locomotives....:lol:
 
You guys overestimate yourself too much....you love to think Indians are always worried about you....which is not true.....
In an other thread you guys were saying that Indians are crying about a pakistani movie being funded by ISI....while the fact is, apart from PDF Indians, probably no-one else knows about the film in India and I haven't seen any PDF Indian complaining about the film....
In this thread, you claim that Indians are going to cry about the reactor.....but we don't give a damn.....we know the 'Chinese maal' won't work.....it will probably melt down during operation killing Pakistanis.......forgot about the imported Chinese locomotives....:lol:

Indian papers published stories about the movie which is a good example of Indian obsession. So take your sorry excuses to your own papers and ask the editorial staff not show such childish obsession with anything Pakistani :lol:

India has officially cried some ten dozen times about military relations and agreements between Pakistan and China, sorry but we take the words of Indian govt over an anonymous user on a forum :coffee:

[Now I know you can not factually den both these statements so your next post will likely be troll bait]
 
You guys overestimate yourself too much....you love to think Indians are always worried about you....which is not true.....
In an other thread you guys were saying that Indians are crying about a pakistani movie being funded by ISI....while the fact is, apart from PDF Indians, probably no-one else knows about the film in India and I haven't seen any PDF Indian complaining about the film....
In this thread, you claim that Indians are going to cry about the reactor.....but we don't give a damn.....we know the 'Chinese maal' won't work.....it will probably melt down during operation killing Pakistanis.......forgot about the imported Chinese locomotives....:lol:

Yup u dont give a damn but love to ****** about stuff? right.. take a look who opened the thread... take a look whose complaining...

haha
 
Indian papers published stories about the movie which is a good example of Indian obsession. So take your sorry excuses to your own papers and ask the editorial staff not show such childish obsession with anything Pakistani :lol:

India has officially cried some ten dozen times about military relations and agreements between Pakistan and China, sorry but we take the words of Indian govt over an anonymous user on a forum :coffee:

[Now I know you can not factually den both these statements so your next post will likely be troll bait]

Indians like to write about anything related to China. I probably can read more about China reading an Indian paper than a Chinese paper. Though Indian paper either sensationalize or lie about anything related to China.

India Measures Itself Against a China That Doesn’t Notice - China Digital Times (CDT)
 
Indian papers published stories about the movie which is a good example of Indian obsession. So take your sorry excuses to your own papers and ask the editorial staff not show such childish obsession with anything Pakistani :lol:...

Publishing news about the film cannot be equated to 'crying'.....the fact is, Indians are not obsessed with Pakistani movies, it's the other way round....
To attract attention of India and Indians, the film shows India in a negative light.....you guys are simply attention seekers....

India has officially cried some ten dozen times about military relations and agreements between Pakistan and China, sorry but we take the words of Indian govt over an anonymous user on a forum :coffee:...

Indian govt. does what it has to....follow the protocol.....but deep down we laugh imagining the plight of the Pakistanis operating those 'Chinese maal'.......and we laugh more when Pakistanis turn to India after being duped by the Chinese......:lol:
Pak conveys concern to China over substandard rail engines
Railways not too keen on giving locos to Pakistan - Times Of India
 
Publishing news about the film cannot be equated to 'crying'.....the fact is Indians are not obsseses with Pakistani movies, it's the other way round....
To attract attention of India and Indians, the film shows India in a negative light.....you guys are simply attention seekers....



Indian govt. does what it has to....follow the protocol.....but deep down we laugh imagining the plight of the Pakistanis operating those 'Chinese maal'.......and we laugh more when Pakistanis come to India after being duped by the Chinese......:lol:
Pak conveys concern to China over substandard rail engines
Railways not too keen on giving locos to Pakistan - Times Of India

Like I said the next post will be troll bait. Fact remains:

1- Indian papers published those stories about a Pakistani film.
2- India cries about Pak-China relationship :coffee:

Pakistanis in general have no interest in India. In last elections the complete focus was on domestic policies yet Indian papers were reporting it like politics in Pakistan revolved around India. Pretty pathetic obsession if you ask me.
 
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LOL......anti-India sentiment is what keeping Pakistanis together.....and you say you have no interest in India....:lol:
 
Publishing news about the film cannot be equated to 'crying'.....the fact is, Indians are not obsessed with Pakistani movies, it's the other way round....
To attract attention of India and Indians, the film shows India in a negative light.....you guys are simply attention seekers...

Yet we have more indian trolls on PDF than Pakistani members despite the fact tht most arent welcome here... shameless!



Indian govt. does what it has to....follow the protocol.....but deep down we laugh imagining the plight of the Pakistanis operating those 'Chinese maal'.......and we laugh more when Pakistanis come to India after being duped by the Chinese......:lol:
Pak conveys concern to China over substandard rail engines
Railways not too keen on giving locos to Pakistan - Times Of India


Lol indians love to embarass themselves...

Bhel offers locomotives to Pakistan:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...dT5vuEdYiC0uNgpurKouuHw&bvm=bv.54934254,d.dmg


Instead GoP ... Locomotive factory at risalpur leased and made state of the art... :


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...t-optFTCNBjJnQWPZqq1VLA&bvm=bv.54934254,d.dmg

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LOL......anti-India sentiment is what keeping Pakistanis together.....and you say you have no interest in India....:lol:

Wow says the indian in whose country politicians come to power by spread Pak phobia... :lol:

^^^^^^
LOL......anti-India sentiment is what keeping Pakistanis together.....and you say you have no interest in India....:lol:

Wow says the indian in whose country politicians come to power by spread Pak phobia... :lol:

^^^^^^
LOL......anti-India sentiment is what keeping Pakistanis together.....and you say you have no interest in India....:lol:

Wow says the indian in whose country politicians come to power by spread Pak phobia... :lol:
 
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