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China leaves 1962 military triumph's shadow behind

as for me,brazil ok,germany ok,india ok,japs get out of here!
so a tip for you:keep away from japan

1. Now why r u bring Japs in Indo-China thread....:what:

2. We only have normal trade relations with Japan much smaller in comparision to China-Japan trade
 
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China should act in friendly manner as suggested in the article and should not object the developmental projects in arunachal pradesh.
They should also not arm Pakistan which is against Indian national security, Last but not the least China should support India for UNSC permanent seat, as it it is this only friend of India which is opposing it.

What do we get in return?
 
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i mean the four-nation alliance will drag India.3-nation alliance is better

The point is China support for India even though it may carry objections about Japan which non of our issue
Even after China's support we don't know whether we'll get it or not but it would definitely considered improvement in relations

Although i m personally more interested in trade n solving border issues first

Like yesterday there was thread about discussions regarding a gas n oil pipeline from Russia to India bypassing China if such a thing comes to reality it'll be more beneficial for both nations i guess
 
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well in my view its like a cycle
pakistanis likes to make comparison with india , indians compare themselves to china , chinese compare themselves to US
 
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we see indian as our brothers until India decided to support the failed CIA Free Tibet program.
 
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we see indian as our brothers until India decided to support the failed CIA Free Tibet program.

If CIA[Read U.S.A.] wanted Tibet they would have Taken it long Back as it was the USA who saved you from the Japanese[ Your Soldiers to but U.S.A. broke the back of Japan] . Secondly Traditionally in the 60's U.S.A. was a friend to Pakistan Not India . India was in Soviet Camp . As when India was Decimating Pakistan in 72 it was U.S.A which through Russia held us Back .
 
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If i Leave Sinochallenger and his Troop It is most Indians and Pakistanis Discussing 1962 again and again like a broken Record .

Nonetheless , what i feel is LAC will be made LOC . There is no other solution to border Disputes . Neither India will Cede Arunanchal Pradesh nor China will cede Aksai Chin .

Yes so regarding the border disputes, fighting over it is like shovelling **** against the tide. Nothing will come of it. So what we should do, both China and India, is put that issue on the backburner. And concentrate on trade, investments and coorperation. Once development happens, once there is more trust, then such issues can be negotiated much easier.

They should also not arm Pakistan which is against Indian national security

India is a pioneer of bilateral relations. For example, India has friendly relations with ISrael as well as Palestine. Our foreign policy makers are quite talented, that neither of these countries see any inconsistencies with our position. When we pioneer such a policy, we should let China make its own decisions and pursue its own relations with others. We cant dictate here. Our goal is our relation with China. If we improve that relationship, maybe China will be neutral in the India - Pakistan border dispute.

BTW I advocate the same thing for Pakistan. Pakistan should put its Kashmir issue on the backburner and concentrate on development, investments and trade with India. These 3 nuclear countries have the capacity to bring peace and stability in the region, which is a hallmark of every region where there are developed nations.

Last but not the least China should support India for UNSC permanent seat, as it it is this only friend of India which is opposing it.

On April 15, 2011, China officially expressed its support for an increased Indian role at the United Nations, without explicitly endorsing India's Security Council ambitions. However, recently China has expressed its support for Indian candidacy as a permanent member of the Security Council, thus making India the only candidate that has received support from all permanent members and most other nations as well.

So China has indeed supported India already. :)

That said, I dont think Germany and Japan deserve to be on the security council. They are not that powerful militarily or politically imo.
 
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we see indian as our brothers until India decided to support the failed CIA Free Tibet program.

Free Tibet is already a dead movement n we have been more aligned to the Soviets/Russians than the CIA/US in the past n even till today

N Tibetians aren't causing in kind of terrorist activity in China nor India is training n supplying arms to them to start a conflict with China

I don't thing untill the border issue is solved Tibetian issue will be cleared n with more than 500 intrusions in last 2 years China isn't help it anyway...:undecided:
 
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one thing is one thing, if we want to mix everything together, we can do nothing; I don't think most general Indian "hate" Chinese or China, one of my friend --a little girl 23years old travel alone in India for 1 month, one interesting travel, no one dislike her and got many help and friends,

many Chinese want to visit India, including me, but inconvenient and less spread; So most Chinese visitors went to UR,US,ASEN,Japan,South Korea,Maldives.... in 2011, 72.5million Chinese visitors went abroad, spent 69billion$, I think India should do more to atract Chinese visitors, and Chinese visitors want to visit India if convenient
 
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all dreams, none realistic . embracing INDIA by CHINA will be incomplete if it does not return the captured territory , also it will lead to abandoning of pakistan altogether by china , which is being groomed in anti "indian / US" role for pressure tactics. they will also find it imprudent to lose access to afghanistan via pak. and also INDIA is a rising competitor in many areas to CHINA .

and Bottomline is US wants them to do exactly the things they are doing now in context of INDIA , so US can groom INDIA for anti china role . so china is doing what it thinks is right and india will have to walk the only path available.
 
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one thing is one thing, if we want to mix everything together, we can do nothing; I don't think most general Indian "hate" Chinese or China, one of my friend --a little girl 23years old travel alone in India for 1 month, one interesting travel, no one dislike her and got many help and friends,

many Chinese want to visit India, including me, but inconvenient and less spread; So most Chinese visitors went to UR,US,ASEN,Japan,South Korea,Maldives.... in 2011, 72.5million Chinese visitors went abroad, spent 69billion$, I think India should do more to atract Chinese visitors, and Chinese visitors want to visit India if convenient

Indian don't hate Chinese nor there r any China related Visa restrictions as we have in case of Pak

n people from all over the world come to visit India many visitors also come from Japan n Asean every year

Indian Govt. do a lot to promote tourism these days even Shining India slogan used by Pak members all over PDF was basically a part of tourism promotion

Travelling in India isn't that inconvenient n generally u will find people r very friendly towards Chinese or any other nationality...
 
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