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China conducted the third flight test of a new hypersonic missile this week as part of its strategic nuclear program and efforts to develop delivery vehicles capable of defeating US countermeasures, defense officials said.

The flight test of the developmental Wu-14 hypersonic glide vehicle was monitored by US intelligence agencies Tuesday during a flight test in western China.

The latest flight test followed earlier tests of the Wu-14 on Jan. 9 and Aug. 7. The three tests indicate that China’s development of a strike vehicle capable of traveling up to eight times the speed of sound is a high-priority element in China’s large-scale military buildup.

A Pentagon spokesman confirmed the test but declined to provide details.

“We are aware of reports regarding this test and we routinely monitor foreign defense activities,” Marine Corps Lt. Col. Jeff Pool told the Washington Free Beacon.

“However, we don’t comment on our intelligence or assessments of foreign weapon systems,” Pool added, noting that the Pentagon has encouraged China to adopt greater openness with regard to its defense investments and military objectives “to avoid miscalculation.”

Last month in Beijing, the United States and China agreed to a new military accord that called for notifying each country of major military activities. It could not be learned if the Chinese notified the Pentagon in advance of the Wu-14 test.

The Wu-14 was launched atop a Chinese ballistic missile and released along the edge of space.
Past tests of the glide vehicle were clocked as reaching an estimated speed of Mach 10, or 10 times the speed of sound — around 7,680 miles per hour.

Such speeds create difficult aeronautics and physics challenges for guidance systems and place extreme stress on materials used in construction of the vehicle.

The annual report of the congressional US-China Economic and Security Review Commission, made public Nov. 20, reveals China’s hypersonic weapons program is a major development effort.

The report said the People’s Liberation Army “is developing hypersonic glide vehicles as a core component of its next-generation precision strike capability.”

“Hypersonic glide vehicles could render existing US missile defense systems less effective and potentially obsolete,” the report said.

The report said once deployed the Wu-14 “could enable China to conduct kinetic strikes anywhere in the world within minutes to hours.”

China plans to deploy its high-speed glide vehicle by 2020 and a scramjet powered hypersonic vehicle by 2025.

Lee Fuell, technical director for force modernization and employment at the National Air and Space Intelligence Center (NASIC), told the Commission that Chinese glide vehicle is launched on a ballistic missile, dives to hypersonic speed and glides to its target. The weapon currently is assessed to be “associated with [China’s] nuclear deterrent forces.”

“Of great concern would be if [China] was to apply the same technology and capability with a conventional warhead or even just without a warhead because of the kinetic energy that it has in combination with their theater ballistic missiles … in a theater role,” Fuell said.

The intelligence analyst said that hypersonic vehicles “are extremely difficult to defend against because just the time is so compressed between initial detection, being able to get a track, being able to get a fire control solution, and then just being able to have a weapon that can intercept them in some way just because of the speed at which they’re moving.”

“If that is combined with more traditional ballistic missile attacks forcing a target to defend against very high aspect warheads coming in this way at the same time they have to defend against low altitude, very high speed targets coming in [another] way, it makes the defense problem orders of magnitude worse for the defender,” he said.

The commission report stated that China is expanding its strategic nuclear forces “significantly,” with deployment of new missiles, submarines, and multiple-warhead weapons.

Rick Fisher, a China military affairs analyst, said more tests are needed for China to turn the Wu-14 into a working weapon.

“But the real story is that such a program is now well underway,” said Fisher, with the International Assessment and Strategy Center. “For hypersonic systems, all tests, failures, and successes, provide a positive contribution toward the goal of developing a weapon.”

The Wu-14 is part of what military analysts have said in a growing hypersonic arms race involving China, Russia, and the United States.

Russia’s government announced last month that Moscow plans to field hypersonic missiles by 2020.
By contrast, US development of a hypersonic weapons program has been limited.

The Aug. 25 test of the Army’s Advanced Hypersonic Weapon ended in disaster after the booster launching the weapon blew up shortly after launch from a test base on Kodiak Island, Alaska.

Funding for hypersonic weapons development also has been limited to around $360 million dollars, an amount critics say is small compared to estimated investments by China.

“It is now necessary for the United States to substantially increase funding in two areas,” Fisher, the China military analyst said. “First the U.S. must expand and accelerate its own hypersonic weapons program.”

The Pentagon should fund several types of hypersonic systems in a development competition, Fisher said, as well as further research in counter-hypersonic arms.

Past Pentagon research has included development of both guided-but-unpowered glide vehicles, and high-technology scramjet-powered hypersonic vehicles.

A space plane called the X-37 also is being developed as part of a program known as conventional Prompt Global Strike.

US intelligence analysts have said the current Chinese Wu-14 program is currently part of its strategic nuclear program. However, China also could use the Wu-14 as part of its conventional strike program, such as planning attacks on aircraft carriers in the western Pacific.

“While missile based counter-systems may provide an early solution, there is much more potential in the realm of energy weapons,” Fisher said.

“For example, rail guns offer great potential for early solutions to maneuvering hypersonic weapons and this technology deserves much greater funding,” he said.

Fisher also said the United States should increase capabilities for targeting China’s space and high altitude reconnaissance and surveillance systems, to include satellites.

“These will be absolutely necessary for China to successfully employ its long range hypersonic weapons,” he said.

A Chinese Embassy spokesman could not be reached for comment.

Lora Saalman, an expert on China’s hypersonic development at the Carnegie Endowment, said after China’s second Wu-14 test in August that the closeness of the first two tests showed that Beijing is “fast-tracking” the strategic program.

“When compared with the yearly gaps in between its [anti-satellite] and [ballistic missile defense] tests in 2007, 2010, 2013, and 2014, the Wu-14 accelerates China’s development timeline exponentially,” she said in an email in August.

Saalman believes the Wu-14 is part of a Chinese version of the U.S. conventional Prompt Global Strike program.

Read more: http://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-conducts-third-flight-test-of-hypersonic-strike-vehicle/#ixzz3KwjUFzXd

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There are several hypersonic missiles already in China's pocket, Bill!

This only shows that the HK media like SCMP was utterly spreading the BS.

Even the US intel has officially acknowledged the success of China's second public HGV test.

SCMP was lying just like they did report the propaganda about to support those OC thugs.
 
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This only shows that the HK media like SCMP was utterly spreading the BS.

Even the US intel has officially acknowledged the success of China's second public HGV test.

SCMP was lying just like they did report the propaganda about to support those OC thugs.

What intelligence estimate publicly stated that China's HGV test (the second one) was successful? You do know the US intel community doesn't speak about or publicize their estimates... right? I can't find any information to corroborate your statement that US intel said China's second HGV test was a success.

Also good job China, the HGVs really aren't anything too special (they aren't too maneuverable, their flight times limited since the craft is unpowered, and their paths predictable as a result of their lack of maeuverablity), and countermeasures are being developed (from lasers to railguns), but China is making great, but still limited progress. This is only the third test flight, expect many more years before this even comes close to being operational. Good job none the less.

This system, if operational today, could dodge existing US defenses, just as the title suggests. But as the article says, the US is developing countermeasures. Still, a friendly arms race never hurt.
 
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Congrats! So typical of how we do things: do first then tell, or just do and never tell. Unlike those in certain country who always do lips service ahead but never deliver. On the other hand, haters will just call it "copied" and go to bed:azn:
 
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HGV is the ultimate ASBM. Just use an off-board sensor like the J-20 or FC-31 to provide a continuously updated GPS location of the target (in this case a ship) to the HGV through its data link. :tup:

Wipe out the eyes, and one's ability to locate said target is negated.
 
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HGV is the ultimate ASBM. Just use an off-board sensor like the J-20 or FC-31 to provide a continuously updated GPS location of the target (in this case a ship) to the HGV through its data link. :tup:

When we put an HGV warhead on our DF-21D platform, that will massively extend the range, the speed, the accuracy, and the maneuverability.

That will allow us to sink enemy ships from halfway across the world.

Positioning information can be taken from satellites (Beidou system), platforms like the J-20, or even just large numbers of UAV's.

And UAV's are pretty cheap.
 
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What intelligence estimate publicly stated that China's HGV test (the second one) was successful? You do know the US intel community doesn't speak about or publicize their estimates... right? I can't find any information to corroborate your statement that US intel said China's second HGV test was a success.

Also good job China, the HGVs really aren't anything too special (they aren't too maneuverable, their flight times limited since the craft is unpowered, and their paths predictable as a result of their lack of maeuverablity), and countermeasures are being developed (from lasers to railguns), but China is making great, but still limited progress. This is only the third test flight, expect many more years before this even comes close to being operational. Good job none the less.

This system, if operational today, could dodge existing US defenses, just as the title suggests. But as the article says, the US is developing countermeasures. Still, a friendly arms race never hurt.

Excuse me? But are we talking about different things?

This is not a better version of bra, I meant brahmos.

THIS is HGV. what do you mean by "their paths predictable "? :woot:


In my understanding, it is precisely because that its path - the gliding phase and reentry point/s - is soooooooo unpredictable ( along with that friggin speed on top of it) , that renders any existing defence system useless in the very first place!


and '' their lack of maeuverablity" ? :woot: they don't need ANY manuverablity IMO, to be honest, if glide well with 8 to 10 mach.


and "countermeasures are being developed (from lasers to railguns)" ? What are you talking about? :hitwall:

how they suppose to use lasers and railguns, if re-entry point/s are completely unpredictable? And where do you suppose to install those lasers and railguns? in every metre of the land and be ready at any sec 24*7? :azn:
 
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What intelligence estimate publicly stated that China's HGV test (the second one) was successful? You do know the US intel community doesn't speak about or publicize their estimates... right? I can't find any information to corroborate your statement that US intel said China's second HGV test was a success.

Also good job China, the HGVs really aren't anything too special (they aren't too maneuverable, their flight times limited since the craft is unpowered, and their paths predictable as a result of their lack of maeuverablity), and countermeasures are being developed (from lasers to railguns), but China is making great, but still limited progress. This is only the third test flight, expect many more years before this even comes close to being operational. Good job none the less.

This system, if operational today, could dodge existing US defenses, just as the title suggests. But as the article says, the US is developing countermeasures. Still, a friendly arms race never hurt.

HGV has a lack of maneuverability?

That is contrary to everything I have ever read about HGV.
 
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HGV has a lack of maneuverability?

That is contrary to everything I have ever read about HGV.

Exactly. *All* ballistic missiles are hypersonic. Even the V2 was a "hypersonic missile." As are Scuds. The speed isn't really the point at all.

The whole point of the HGV is its extreme maneuverability. That coupled with hypersonic speeds makes the glide vehicle (not missile) incredibly difficult/impossible to defeat.

That's why HGV's are special and why only China and the US have tested them. Actually, the Wu-14 may be the only one that has completed a successful test since AFAIK, Darpa's two tests in 2010 and 2011 respectively were failures.
 
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Exactly. *All* ballistic missiles are hypersonic. Even the V2 was a "hypersonic missile." As are Scuds. The speed isn't really the point at all.

The whole point of the HGV is its extreme maneuverability. That coupled with hypersonic speeds makes the glide vehicle (not missile) incredibly difficult/impossible to defeat.

We need to have a policy of mass producing HGV platforms, and the ballistic missiles needed to launch them.

Being able to strike conventionally on a global scale is an essential part of power projection. And HGV is so fast that the glide vehicle could arrive across the world in a matter of minutes.

Even with conventional warheads they could function effectively as a bunker killer type of weapon (due to their immense speed), though their anti-ship role will probably be the biggest one. Apart from nukes of course.
 
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