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United nations has in the past endorsed military campaigns like in Iraq for false reasons. I think thats what he was refering to. After all united nations is supppsed to be caretaker of people's rights.
You do realize UN has multiple organs like UNESCO, ICJ etc. - it's role is to prevent war while that of NATO is quite the opposite.
 
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Turks and Chinese have what I can say "imperial past syndrome" too much Sultan and Ertigul dramas for the Turks and for the Chinese the "Yanxi Palace" dramas can get you that high lol

Past is past buddy, except a few, we live in real world. What you claim is absurd. The problem is here that China doesn't like to be intervened when they torture minorities. But we do it gladly. Just because you have bigger economy it doesn't give you right to opress people as you wish.

We side with Ukraine against Russia about Crimea but do business with both.
We defend Uyghurs rights but do business with China.
We "ally" with Usa but side with Maduro.

Everything can be fixed via diplomacy. Breaking up ties doesn't solve anything. Just because we do business with countries don't stop us saying what we believe in.

Turkey pursue independent policy all over the world. We don't care what others think. Defending Turkic, Muslim and elected people no matter what, is back-bone of this policy. Its understandable that Chinese or others can't understand this as they are selfish people who only think of yourselves.

Again, it's understandable lots of Pakistani choose China over Turkey since they are your savior and best friend. But on a dispute between Turkey and China, insulting Turks, because Turks defend a Muslim minority in China is just dishonorable.

Moreover, considering there was huge rallies in Pakistan when a cartoon about the Prophet (SAV) was published. You can't keep "your" İslam in your comfort zone forever.
The one who does not tell the truth/remains silent against injustice is Satan...

Again, we had chance to see intellectual level of Chinese members here. All their arguments were based on underestimate, cocky behaviour, over look. These guys pick Western names for themselves in China... Jack, Jennifer, Ricky etc... They are heavily under slave mentality of Western hegomony. CPC makes them sleep in LaLaLand...
 
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Past is past buddy, except a few, we live in real world. What you claim is absurd. The problem is here that China doesn't like to be intervened when they torture minorities. But we do it gladly. Just because you have bigger economy it doesn't give you right to opress people as you wish.

We side with Ukraine against Russia about Crimea but do business with both.
We defend Uyghurs rights but do business with China.
We "ally" with Usa but side with Maduro.

Well you Turks and Chinese can make whatever claims and Us Pakistanis have the right to make any claims and you guys only say you were with "Ukraine" in 2014 but gladly were held as guests to the Kremlin and now instead of fighting " Assad" and countering Iran you guys are slowly improving relations and you guys are still in NATO to be fair there too many AKP trolls and CPC trolls here and domestic politics PMLN trolls at the end of the day countries have their own intrests and thats all @Persian Gulf 1906 @Desert Fox @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan you guys only care about Pan-Turkism not Muslims while your govt destroyed Syria

Pakistan is friendly to those who dont attack us politically,socially, and geo-politically wise we would not have bad relations with the USA if they were not constantly propping puppet regimes and using Afghanistan as their base for their Indian partners
 
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Well you Turks and Chinese can make whatever claims and Us Pakistanis have the right to make any claims and you guys only say you were with "Ukraine" in 2014 but gladly were held as guests to the Kremlin and now instead of fighting " Assad" and countering Iran you guys are slowly improving relations and you guys are still in NATO to be fair there too many AKP trolls and CPC trolls here and domestic politics PMLN trolls at the end of the day countries have their own intrests and thats all @Persian Gulf 1906 @Desert Fox @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan you guys only care about Pan-Turkism not Muslims while your govt destroyed Syria

Pakistan is friendly to those who dont attack us politically,socially, and geo-politically wise we would not have bad relations with the USA if they were not constantly propping puppet regimes and using Afghanistan as their base for their Indian partners

Yes, we say that Crimea belongs to Ukraine.
Yes, Assad must go.
Yes, we are working with Russia in Syria.
Yes, NATO is beneficial for us "at the moment".
Yes, we are in Nato.
No, Maduro is elected leader. You can't overthrow him.
No, China don't opress Uyghurs.
No, Greece you stay at 6 sea miles.


Countries have disputes, conflicts, disagreements. But in the end, you must say what you believe in. Otherwise, you are nothing but a hypocrat.

Diplomacy seems way too complicated for you buddy, no offense.
 
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Again, it's understandable lots of Pakistani choose China over Turkey since they are your savior and best friend. But on a dispute between Turkey and China, insulting Turks, because Turks defend a Muslim minority in China is just dishonorable.

Don’t bring Pakistanis into your squabble. We are not puppets of either of you and we have our own independent policy.

Internal affairs of either China or Turkey is not our business. We will support both the sovereignty of China and Turkey.

We have US and its slaves breathing down our neck while our past 3 governments robbed us blind, we have bigger problems than both of you.

Also, we are ethnically related to Uyghurs as well, especially in Gilgit-Baltistan and Kashmir where we have intermarriage and blood ties.

We have good ties and a friendship with all three, China, Uyghurs, and Turks.

I think Turkey should talk with China about this matter behind closed doors and not bring it in the open like this.
 
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lets not forget the Israelis and Turks despite Erdogan have great trade relations and embassies in their countries lol

“Lol”

After hitting historic high of USD 84.44 billion last year, China’s trade with India saw a robust growth in the first quarter this year, with bilateral trade netting USD 22.1 billion, up 15.4 per cent year-on-year, a top Chinese official said today. The growth continued from the upward momentum seen last year, when bilateral trade reached a record high of USD 84.4 billion, up 20.3 per cent from the previous year, spokesperson for the Ministry of Commerce Gao Feng said.
 
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Moreover, considering there was huge rallies in Pakistan when a cartoon about the Prophet (SAV) was published. You can't keep "your" İslam in your comfort zone forever.
The one who does not tell the truth/remains silent against injustice is Satan...

Why single out only Pakistan? Did you not have rallies in Turkey?

Everyone always wants Pakistan to be the sole defender of every Muslim in the world, please, what has that gotten us in the last 18 years when we stood by Afghanistan alone while the rest of Muslim world cowered to Americans.

You have Palestinians screaming for Pakistani army to nuke Israel in Jerusalem, but they accept India on Kashmir. You have Arabs seeking help from Pakistan against Iran and in Syria/Yemen, while we faced daily bombings in Pakistan from Indian proxies. They are giving Modi medals.

China has been a better friend to Pakistan than the whole of the Muslim world and stood with us like a rock, through thick and thin. We can’t abandon China.

Turkey also is our dear brother who never abandoned us, and went against every nation to support us in Kashmir. We have nothing but love for Turks.

Yet, we realized this fact the hard way, no one in the world will look after our interests but we ourselves. Pakistan first. We must take care of our own situation before worrying about all others.
 
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“Lol”

After hitting historic high of USD 84.44 billion last year, China’s trade with India saw a robust growth in the first quarter this year, with bilateral trade netting USD 22.1 billion, up 15.4 per cent year-on-year, a top Chinese official said today. The growth continued from the upward momentum seen last year, when bilateral trade reached a record high of USD 84.4 billion, up 20.3 per cent from the previous year, spokesperson for the Ministry of Commerce Gao Feng said.

so what your Turks invest more India more as well do we scream that you are ditching us @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan

As of 2015, the bilateral trade between India & Turkey stood at US$6.26 billion & is heavily tilted in India's favour.[3]

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-india-to-deepen-economic-ties-erdogan--112578

you know why because their population is close a billion that's a large market we always wanted to tap into the Indian Market but India does not let us we even welcomed Indian investments in the past but zilch so ask the Indian counterparts about that

Why single out only Pakistan? Did you not have rallies in Turkey?

Everyone always wants Pakistan to be the sole defender of every Muslim in the world, please, what has that gotten us in the last 18 years when we stood by Afghanistan alone while the rest of Muslim world cowered to Americans.

You have Palestinians screaming for Pakistani army to nuke Israel in Jerusalem, but they accept India on Kashmir. You have Arabs seeking help from Pakistan against Iran and in Syria/Yemen, while we faced daily bombings in Pakistan from Indian proxies. They are giving Modi medals.

China has been a better friend to Pakistan than the whole of the Muslim world and stood with us like a rock, through thick and thin. We can’t abandon China.

Turkey also is our dear brother who never abandoned us, and went against every nation to support us in Kashmir. We have nothing but love for Turks.

Yet, we realized this fact the hard way, no one in the world will look after our interests but we ourselves. Pakistan first. We must take care of our own situation before worrying about all others.

The Turks even till this day let the rat Dostum the killer of Pasthuns in their capital Ankara and supported the NA in the 90s and 2000s . I have met Balistinians who claim we are puppets of Israel and their stupid views on India, again like I said we are allied with KSA,Turkey,and China and holy crap I am glad we are not picking sides cause how much the after effects would harm us, yet we get along

https://www.thehindu.com/business/Economy/now-pakistanis-can-invest-in-india/article3712510.ece
 
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Well honestly as a Pakistani I support the sovereignty of both Turkey and China. Both countries have been reliable partners to us and helped us in our greatest times of need.

Hopefully both countries will talk this issue through. We Pakistanis have huge problems of our own which we are only now beginning to tackle. We cannot afford to lose either Turkey or China because both Nations are of immense importance to us for their historical role in the creation and continuation of Pakistan and its present and future which is also connected to both countries.

@cabatli_53 @beijingwalker @OsmanAli98 @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan

@Dungeness @CAN_TR
 
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Why single out only Pakistan? Did you not have rallies in Turkey?

Everyone always wants Pakistan to be the sole defender of every Muslim in the world, please, what has that gotten us in the last 18 years when we stood by Afghanistan alone while the rest of Muslim world cowered to Americans.

You have Palestinians screaming for Pakistani army to nuke Israel in Jerusalem, but they accept India on Kashmir. You have Arabs seeking help from Pakistan against Iran and in Syria/Yemen, while we faced daily bombings in Pakistan from Indian proxies. They are giving Modi medals.

China has been a better friend to Pakistan than the whole of the Muslim world and stood with us like a rock, through thick and thin. We can’t abandon China.

Turkey also is our dear brother who never abandoned us, and went against every nation to support us in Kashmir. We have nothing but love for Turks.

Yet, we realized this fact the hard way, no one in the world will look after our interests but we ourselves. Pakistan first. We must take care of our own situation before worrying about all others.
Yes, champion of Muslim, why I didn't see u show any concern for Kurdish oppression by Turkish? Maybe suddenly Kurdish is not Muslim? Or selective?
 
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Yes, champion of Muslim, why I didn't see u show any concern for Kurdish oppression by Turkish? Maybe suddenly Kurdish is not Muslim? Or selective?


pkk and ypg is your brother, dirty commies nobody like them in the middle east. you commies brother can be send to china.
 
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pkk and ypg is your brother, dirty commies nobody like them in the middle east. you commies brother can be send to china.
U still can't avoid the issue of Turkish setting double standard of accuse others of oppression while u yourself is no better. And then your cheerleader makes stupid comment which fool no real Pakistanis.

Turkey shallow move will gain no friends and respect from anybody. It just make turkey a more detestable country. Everybody know Turkish are busy suppressing Kurdish independence everyday. Slaughtering Kurdish. Your name calling of Kurdish as rat just demonstrated that. What u did just humiliate yourself and Turkish.
 
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U still can't avoid the issue of Turkish setting double standard of accuse others of oppression while u yourself is no better. And then your cheerleader makes stupid comment which fool no real Pakistanis.

We are not assimilating people and put them in a nazi camp. Every commi taking weapon we kill them, this is not to be compared. Kurds live and are part of Turkey, pkk and ypg rats are be killed. We don't put kurs in a nazi camp, torture people like you do. They are in the Turkish Grand National Assembly of Turkey, so the fool are you people and Pakistanies who gives you ok are the same.

We can give you commies and you give us Uyghurs.
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