China hints at maintaining sizable troops' presence near Doklam in winter

[ashok321]

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ear-doklam-in-winter/articleshow/61872947.cms

BEIJING: The Chinese military today hinted at maintaining sizable presence of its troops near the area of Dokalam standoff during winter, asserting that the region is in Chinese territory.

India and China resolved the 73-day tense standoff on August 28 at Doklam area after the People's Liberation Army (PLA) stopped building a strategic road close to India's narrow Chicken Neck area connecting to North-Eastern states. Bhutan also claims the Doklam area to be its part.

India objected to the road building by the PLA, saying that it endangered the security of the narrow corridor.

According to official accounts, both China and India in the past used to withdraw troops from the advanced regions of that area during the winter which is harsh.

"Donglong (Doklam) is Chinese territory," Col Wu Qian, spokesman of the Chinese Ministry of Defence said yesterday when asked about reports that PLA continue to maintain sizable number of troops close to the Doklam standoff area and doing away with the practice of vacating the place during winter.

"Based on this principle we will decide on the deployment of troops on our own," he said without elaborating.

The continued presence of Chinese troops near Yatung close to Doklam reportedly prompted India too to maintain its troops presence there.

While it is not clear whether the issue figured in the 10th round of the Working Mechanism for Consultation and Coordination on India-China Border Affairs (WMCC) talks between India and China here on November 17, officials said the meeting reviewed the situation in all sectors of India- China border and exchanged views on enhancing Confidence Building Measures (CBMS) and military contacts.

It was the first meeting after the Doklam standoff.

Asked whether the two sides made progress to establish hotlines between the two militaries to avert crisis like Doklam, Wu said both sides are in touch on this issue.

He, however, clarified that the hotline can't be between the two military headquarters as China no longer has a military central office after the recent reforms.

At the WMCC meeting, the two sides discussed maintaining peace and stability and border exchanges, Wu said, adding that both sides will keep in contact with each other.

 

[Feng Leng]

It is more than a hint. PLA built a full army base right next to the stand off point. I wonder how PLA could possibly transport the construction materials to the site except by all weather road.

http://www.india.com/news/world/chi...l-near-disputed-doklam-region-report-2668002/

Meanwhile, the Hindutva freaks are expecting their army to do something other than retreat back to barracks.

http://www.timesnownews.com/india/article/doklam-indian-army-china-sikkim-region-chinese-army/105743

 

[takeitwithyou]

It is more than a hint. PLA built a full army base right next to the stand off point. I wonder how PLA could possibly transport the construction materials to the site except by all weather road.

http://www.india.com/news/world/chi...l-near-disputed-doklam-region-report-2668002/

Meanwhile, the Hindutva freaks are expecting their army to do something other than retreat back to barracks.

http://www.timesnownews.com/india/article/doklam-indian-army-china-sikkim-region-chinese-army/105743

QUOTE building
"near the area of Dokalam standoff during winter"

after the People's Liberation Army (PLA) stopped building a strategic road close to India's narrow Chicken Neck area connecting to North-Eastern states.

Still got no guts to come take the specific area of contention your troops got thrown out by the Indians. Your conscript army made up of the only child from families and with zero war experience is all hat and no cattle

 

[Feng Leng]

QUOTE building
"near the area of Dokalam standoff during winter"

after the People's Liberation Army (PLA) stopped building a strategic road close to India's narrow Chicken Neck area connecting to North-Eastern states.

Still got no guts to come take the specific area of contention your troops got thrown out by the Indians. Your conscript army made up of the only child from families and with zero war experience is all hat and no cattle

LOL at the humiliation!!!

Is that what you concluded from Indian media? The same media who claimed that PLA withdrew from Doklam and then backtracked after proof is discovered? The same media who claimed that PLA did not build roads in Doklam until satellite photos showed the new roads? The same media who said PLA left the stand off site when it turns out they were always there since June?

And now the same media are claiming our new military bases in Doklam are somehow not covering the stand off site and border with India... just to make Indians feel better about Modi's humiliating unilateral retreat

Even Western media is too ashamed of Indian media self-delusion to directly reference their claims now:

https://www.thequint.com/news/world...hina-says-will-maintain-winter-troop-presence

 

[takeitwithyou]

LOL at the humiliation!!!

Is that what you concluded from Indian media? The same media who claimed that PLA withdrew from Doklam and then backtracked after proof is discovered? The same media who claimed that PLA did not build roads in Doklam until satellite photos showed the new roads? The same media who said PLA left the stand off site when it turns out they were always there since June?

And now the same media are claiming our new military bases in Doklam are somehow not covering the stand off site and border with India... just to make Indians feel better about Modi's humiliating unilateral retreat

Even Western media is too ashamed of Indian media self-delusion to directly reference their claims now:

https://www.thequint.com/news/world...hina-says-will-maintain-winter-troop-presence

You like Indian media now, good to know. The only humiliation is your attempts, not surprising given your weak conscript mama's only boy military, and how you are now desperately trying to deflect from the facts.

FACT: Your army scurried away with their tails behind their backs from the 'Specific Site' the Indians told you to back da __ out. The Dragon turned out to be a Teletubby.

"PLA continue to maintain sizable number of troops close to the Doklam standoff area"

Close but no cigar Mr. Han. You have not dared to take on the specific site of contention they threw you out of.

 

[Han Patriot]

You like Indian media now, good to know. The only humiliation is your attempts, not surprising given your weak conscript mama's only boy military, and how you are now desperately trying to deflect from the facts.

FACT: Your army scurried away with their tails behind their backs from the 'Specific Site' the Indians told you to back da __ out. The Dragon turned out to be a Teletubby.

"PLA continue to maintain sizable number of troops close to the Doklam standoff area"

Close but no cigar Mr. Han. You have not dared to take on the specific site of contention they threw you out of.

Well, it's close to the standoff area, which is roughly 150m away. It didn't say close to Doklam which is in Yadong. How long do you still need to deny the fact we are still in Doklam? You can't close your eyes forever and pretend nothing is happening.

The fact is this is a trade off, we postpone the road in return we occupy Doklam, fair deal to me.

 

[takeitwithyou]

Well, it's close to the standoff area, which is roughly 150m away. It didn't say close to Doklam which is in Yadong. How long do you still need to deny the fact we are still in Doklam? You can't close your eyes forever and pretend nothing is happening.

The fact is this is a trade off, we postpone the road in return we occupy Doklam, fair deal to me.

Miles away, not meters. Your humiliation is globally known and your one child army is toothless. The dragon turned out to be a Teletubby!!!

 

[Alphacharlie]

The heights of Chinese ego and self bravado has been smashed.

On this biased form such trolls are promoted..... No problem adolescent kids will buy this Bullshit.

 

[Han Patriot]

Miles away, not meters. Your humiliation is globally known and your one child army is toothless. The dragon turned out to be a Teletubby!!!

You seen teletubies kicking ***? =) Miles away? Not according to Mr, Rawat tho.

http://www.india.com/news/world/chi...l-near-disputed-doklam-region-report-2668002/

Months after Indian and Chinese troops disengaged after a standoff situation on the Doklam plateau of Bhutan, China has begun construction near the disputed region. China has built several tunnels and barracks near the disputed area in Doklam. A 400-metre tall wall has also been built by Chinese forces to hide the rampant construction going on in Doklam,

So we can build barracks, tunnels and walls but not roads? Hmmmm....interesting.. Not sure how we can build 400m tall walls...hanuman magic?

https://thediplomat.com/2017/10/the-doklam-standoff-between-india-and-china-is-far-from-over/

Today, the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) remains on disputed territory in Doklam, as does the Indian army. August’s “disengagement” was a reduction in tensions. In practice, troops on both sides retreated their positions from the stand-off point by 150 meters each.

To save face, India considers Doka La as within Doklam? The road is 100 meters from the border, retreating 150m meant you are back in your side of the border. Since it was confirmed by China MOFA India retreated back to their side of the border, I don't see any issue with India continuing to 'maintain' presence in Doklam.

Why do you think you MEA is so silent and only use the word 'disengagement'? The general in charge of that theater just got promoted while Jaitley was removed. Why do you think this was the case?

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...ayers-to-be-promoted/articleshow/61212665.cms

 

[faithfulguy]

You seen teletubies kicking ***? =) Miles away? Not according to Mr, Rawat tho.

http://www.india.com/news/world/chi...l-near-disputed-doklam-region-report-2668002/



So we can build barracks, tunnels and walls but not roads? Hmmmm....interesting.. Not sure how we can build 400m tall walls...hanuman magic?

https://thediplomat.com/2017/10/the-doklam-standoff-between-india-and-china-is-far-from-over/



To save face, India considers Doka La as within Doklam? The road is 100 meters from the border, retreating 150m meant you are back in your side of the border. Since it was confirmed by China MOFA India retreated back to their side of the border, I don't see any issue with India continuing to 'maintain' presence in Doklam.

Why do you think you MEA is so silent and only use the word 'disengagement'? The general in charge of that theater just got promoted while Jaitley was removed. Why do you think this was the case?

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...ayers-to-be-promoted/articleshow/61212665.cms

In Doklam, the Indian experience is the same as the experience of this soldier that got a big kick in the a*s from behind.

 

[Han Patriot]

In Doklam, the Indian experience is the same as the experience of this soldier that got a big kick in the a*s from behind.

I mean a weaker party trying to negotiate with a stronger opponent is futile. We have the leverage, they can't afford to fight a war, they are technologically weak and less equipped than China. Modi is not stupid, he is just trying to appear as a supa man for the Indian audience.

 

[faithfulguy]

I mean a weaker party trying to negotiate with a stronger opponent is futile. We have the leverage, they can't afford to fight a war, they are technologically weak and less equipped than China. Modi is not stupid, he is just trying to appear as a supa man for the Indian audience.

Yes, but Indians believe that they are superior to China in military technology. And as a people, they are superior to Chinese. They regard Chines in the same level as an untouchable.

 

[Indian Jatt]

Keep your whole army there, but you lost face every where, now it's too late.....

 

[Han Patriot]

Keep your whole army there, but you lost face every where, now it's too late.....

Why so obsessed with face? You can make the Indian public think you won, but the reality is different, we occupied Doklam. That's what matters, we increase our territory.

 

[faithfulguy]

Why so obsessed with face? You can make the Indian public think you won, but the reality is different, we occupied Doklam. That's what matters, we increase our territory.

China at 2017 achieved more than 1962. With Doklam, Indians think they win because they got to save face. Mainly because one Chinese soldier kick the a*s of one Indian. And that was it. The rest of Indian soldiers all get to go home without humiliation. Indians are happy to save face. And China occupied the land.

In 1962, China kick the *** of The Who.e India. So India was mad. It was not a win/win. Unlike the Doklam win/win.