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“China, the innovation nation. With nine times more engineering graduates and more patents filed each year than in the US, China is transitioning quickly away from its roots as a copycat, knockoff economy to become a potent new high-tech power.” By now, we’ve all read the headlines, heard the hype. China’s high-tech ambitions were part of the sales pitch used in Alibaba’s successful US IPO last month.

No story about China, no prediction about China’s future gets more attention or more traction from consultants, authors, policy analysts. It encapsulates the unanimous hopes of China’s leadership, and the fears of America’s. “China is now standing at a critical stage in that its economic growth must be driven by innovation,” declared China’s ruling State Council in May this year.

While China is certainly making strides the reality is sobering. For all the hype, the government policies and cash, China remains a high-tech disappointment, more dud than ascending rocket. As a banker living and running a business in China, I very much wish it were otherwise. But, I see no concrete evidence of a major change underway. The best the many boosters can offer is, “give it more time and it’s bound to happen”. In other words, they make their case unfalsifiable, by saying today’s China’s tech famine will turn into a feast, if only we are prepared to stand by the empty banquet table long enough.

Unlike a lot of those forecasting China’s inevitable rise to technology superpowerdom, I’ve actually met and talked with hundreds of Chinese tech companies, and before that run a California venture capital firm with investments in the US, Israel and Europe. I’ve also run a high-tech enterprise software company in the US that used proprietary technology to gain leading market position and ultimately a high price from an acquirer when we sold the business. So, I’ve been around the tech world a fair bit, both in China and elsewhere. Rule number one: deal with the facts in front of you, not wishful thinking. Rule number two: a high-tech economy is not a quotient of national IQ, national will, national urgency or national subsidies. If it were, China might well by now be at the epicenter of global innovation.

High-tech is meant to be a savior of China’s economy, delivering higher levels of affluence in the future and an escape from the so-called “middle income trap” that has slowed growth elsewhere in Asia. But saviors have a nasty habit of never arriving.

Let’s start with perhaps the most glaring weakness: China’s failed efforts, despite momentous efforts across more than a decade, to reach even the first rung of high-tech engineering competence by designing and serially producing jet engines.

Military power both requires and underpins high-tech success. Any doubt about this was eliminated by the collapse of USSR. I was fortunate to have a front-row seat for that event. During the 1980s and 1990s, as a Forbes journalist, I spent a lot of time in the USSR surveying both its military and civilian industries, its indigenous technology base. I was one of the few who got to spend time, for example, inside the secret Soviet rocket program, including visiting main factories where its rockets and space station were built. The rocket program was for decades the pinnacle of Soviet tech achievement.

But, it proved to have little overall spinoff benefit for USSR economy. It was a dead-end. Note: the Soviet Union then, like China now, had far more engineers and engineering graduates than the US.

As I wrote back in the 1990s, US’s military supremacy rests as much on Intel and Broadcom as it does on Lockheed Martin fighter jets and GD nuclear submarines. The US has a huge fast-adopter civilian technology market with strong competitive dynamics, something China is without. This means US military then and now can procure the best chips, best integrated software and systems cheaply and quickly from companies that are mainly serving the civilian market. The Soviet Union had no civilian high-tech industry, no market forces. The Soviet military was exposed as a technology pauper by the 1989 Iraq War.

China is different and better off in so many ways. It now manufactures a lot of the world’s most advanced civilian high-tech electronics products. This gives China huge advantages USSR never had. All the same, the USSR by the mid-1950s was producing jet engines for military and civilian use. To this day, China relies on Russia, using Soviet-successor technologies, for its advanced military jet engines. Russian jet engines are generally considered a generation at least behind the best ones manufactured now in the US, France, UK.

China’s inability to make its own advanced jet engines casts light on problems China has, and likely will continue to have, developing a globally-competitive indigenous technology base. In the case of jet engines, the problems are at manufacturing level (difficulty to serially produce minute-tolerance machinery), at the materials level (lack of special alloys) at the industrial level (only one designated monopoly aircraft engine producer in China, so no competitive dynamic as in the US between GE and P&W).

A recent report on China’s jet engine industry puts the technology gap in stark terms. “In some areas,” it concludes, “Chinese engine makers are roughly three decades behind their U.S. peers.”

This challenge, to bring all the parts together in a high-technology manufacturing project, is also evident in China’s failure, up to now, to develop and sell globally domestically-developed advanced integrated circuits, pharmaceuticals, new materials. In drug development, China by some estimates has spent over $10 billion on pharmaceutical research and up to now has had only one domestically-developed drug accepted in the global market, the modestly-successful anti-malarial treatment Qinghaosu (artemisinin). Interestingly, it is derived from an herbal medicine used for two thousand years in China to treat malaria.

It’s simply not enough to count engineers and patents, or the content of government technology-promotion policies. China lacks so many of the basic building blocks of high-tech development. Included here is a mature, experienced venture capital industry staffed by professional entrepreneurs and technologists, not MBAs. A transparent judicial system is also essential, not only for protecting IP, but managing the contractual process that allows companies to put money at risk over long-periods to achieve a return. Non-Disclosure and Non-Compete agreements, a backbone of the technology industry in the US, are basically unenforceable in China. Not just here in China, but anywhere this is the case you can about kiss goodbye big-time technology innovation.

While ignoring the troubling lessons of China’s failure to produce a jet engine (as well as jet brakes and advanced radar systems) the boosters of China’s bright tech future these days most often cite two mobile phone-related businesses as signs of China’s innovation. The two are Xiaomi mobile phones, and Tencent‘s WeChat service. Both have had great success in the last year, including getting some traction in markets outside China. Look a little deeper and there’s less to be positive about.

Xiaomi is a handset manufacturer that now has a market valuation of over $10 billion, higher than just about any other mobile phone manufacturer. It relies, though, on the same group of mainly-US companies (Broadcom, Qualcomm, Google) for its phones. They, along with UK chip-maker ARM and non-Chinese screen manufacturers, are the ones making the real money on all Android phones. In addition, Xiaomi’s phones as are many cases manufactured by Taiwanese company Foxconn. As of now, China has no domestic company that can achieve Foxconn’s levels of quality at low manufacturing cost. Foxconn does this from factories in China. Its superior management systems for high-volume high-quality production also underscore another critical area where China’s domestic technology industry is weak.

With WeChat, it’s done some impressive things, in signing up over 300 million users. The basic application is similar to that of Facebook‘s WhatsApp and others. Its real technology strength is in its back end, in building and managing the servers to store all the content that is sent across WeChat, including a huge amount of video and audio files.

Whatsapp doesn’t have similar capacity. In fact, it points with pride to the fact it doesn’t backup for storage any Whatsapp customers’ conversations. Tencent does this because it’s required to do so by Chinese internet rules and government’s policies to monitor internet content. Tencent might be able to commercialize and sell globally its backend storage architecture, but it’s not clear anyone would be interested to own it. It’s a technology that evolved from specific Chinese requirements, not market demand.

Earlier this year I spoke on a panel at a conference in Shanghai of the global bio-manufacturing industry. This is precisely the sort of area where China most needs to up its game. Bio-manufacturing relies on a combination of first-rate science, cutting-edge manufacturing techniques and far-sighted management. After all the talk and the establishment of dozens of government-funded high-tech pharmaceutical science parks across China, the simple verdict was China has yet to achieve any real success in this industry.

China is not alone, of course, in having its difficulties nurturing a globally-competitive indigenous technology industry. In their time, most of the world’s advanced major economies have all tried — Germany, France, Japan, UK. All lavished government subsidies to foster domestic innovation. All made technology a policy priority. Yet, all have basically failed. If anything, the US is now more dominant in high-technology than it was at any earlier time in history. The US is home to most of the companies earning high margins, market shares and license fees for their proprietary technology.

China has already achieved what no other country has: in the course of a single generation, it has achieved the highest-ever sustained rate of growth, and so lifted hundreds of millions of its citizens out of poverty. This achievement shows the capabilities of the Chinese people, the far-sighted and pragmatic skills of its policy-makers. Both will continue to deliver benefits for China for decades to come.

For China, becoming a tech power is neither certain nor impossible. Progress can be hurt more than helped by those who engage more in hype, in predicting certain outcomes, rather than critically assess the impediments, and learn lessons from the failed efforts so many other countries have had in developing a technology industry. New thinking about innovation, and how to encourage it in China, is still lacking.
 
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China Private Equity, M&A & Capital Markets, from China First Capital

“China, the innovation nation. With nine times more engineering graduates and more patents filed each year than in the US, China is transitioning quickly away from its roots as a copycat, knockoff economy to become a potent new high-tech power.” By now, we’ve all read the headlines, heard the hype. China’s high-tech ambitions were part of the sales pitch used in Alibaba’s successful US IPO last month.

No story about China, no prediction about China’s future gets more attention or more traction from consultants, authors, policy analysts. It encapsulates the unanimous hopes of China’s leadership, and the fears of America’s. “China is now standing at a critical stage in that its economic growth must be driven by innovation,” declared China’s ruling State Council in May this year.

While China is certainly making strides the reality is sobering. For all the hype, the government policies and cash, China remains a high-tech disappointment, more dud than ascending rocket. As a banker living and running a business in China, I very much wish it were otherwise. But, I see no concrete evidence of a major change underway. The best the many boosters can offer is, “give it more time and it’s bound to happen”. In other words, they make their case unfalsifiable, by saying today’s China’s tech famine will turn into a feast, if only we are prepared to stand by the empty banquet table long enough.

Unlike a lot of those forecasting China’s inevitable rise to technology superpowerdom, I’ve actually met and talked with hundreds of Chinese tech companies, and before that run a California venture capital firm with investments in the US, Israel and Europe. I’ve also run a high-tech enterprise software company in the US that used proprietary technology to gain leading market position and ultimately a high price from an acquirer when we sold the business. So, I’ve been around the tech world a fair bit, both in China and elsewhere. Rule number one: deal with the facts in front of you, not wishful thinking. Rule number two: a high-tech economy is not a quotient of national IQ, national will, national urgency or national subsidies. If it were, China might well by now be at the epicenter of global innovation.

High-tech is meant to be a savior of China’s economy, delivering higher levels of affluence in the future and an escape from the so-called “middle income trap” that has slowed growth elsewhere in Asia. But saviors have a nasty habit of never arriving.

Let’s start with perhaps the most glaring weakness: China’s failed efforts, despite momentous efforts across more than a decade, to reach even the first rung of high-tech engineering competence by designing and serially producing jet engines.

Military power both requires and underpins high-tech success. Any doubt about this was eliminated by the collapse of USSR. I was fortunate to have a front-row seat for that event. During the 1980s and 1990s, as a Forbes journalist, I spent a lot of time in the USSR surveying both its military and civilian industries, its indigenous technology base. I was one of the few who got to spend time, for example, inside the secret Soviet rocket program, including visiting main factories where its rockets and space station were built. The rocket program was for decades the pinnacle of Soviet tech achievement.

But, it proved to have little overall spinoff benefit for USSR economy. It was a dead-end. Note: the Soviet Union then, like China now, had far more engineers and engineering graduates than the US.

As I wrote back in the 1990s, US’s military supremacy rests as much on Intel and Broadcom as it does on Lockheed Martin fighter jets and GD nuclear submarines. The US has a huge fast-adopter civilian technology market with strong competitive dynamics, something China is without. This means US military then and now can procure the best chips, best integrated software and systems cheaply and quickly from companies that are mainly serving the civilian market. The Soviet Union had no civilian high-tech industry, no market forces. The Soviet military was exposed as a technology pauper by the 1989 Iraq War.

China is different and better off in so many ways. It now manufactures a lot of the world’s most advanced civilian high-tech electronics products. This gives China huge advantages USSR never had. All the same, the USSR by the mid-1950s was producing jet engines for military and civilian use. To this day, China relies on Russia, using Soviet-successor technologies, for its advanced military jet engines. Russian jet engines are generally considered a generation at least behind the best ones manufactured now in the US, France, UK.

China’s inability to make its own advanced jet engines casts light on problems China has, and likely will continue to have, developing a globally-competitive indigenous technology base. In the case of jet engines, the problems are at manufacturing level (difficulty to serially produce minute-tolerance machinery), at the materials level (lack of special alloys) at the industrial level (only one designated monopoly aircraft engine producer in China, so no competitive dynamic as in the US between GE and P&W).

A recent report on China’s jet engine industry puts the technology gap in stark terms. “In some areas,” it concludes, “Chinese engine makers are roughly three decades behind their U.S. peers.”

This challenge, to bring all the parts together in a high-technology manufacturing project, is also evident in China’s failure, up to now, to develop and sell globally domestically-developed advanced integrated circuits, pharmaceuticals, new materials. In drug development, China by some estimates has spent over $10 billion on pharmaceutical research and up to now has had only one domestically-developed drug accepted in the global market, the modestly-successful anti-malarial treatment Qinghaosu (artemisinin). Interestingly, it is derived from an herbal medicine used for two thousand years in China to treat malaria.

It’s simply not enough to count engineers and patents, or the content of government technology-promotion policies. China lacks so many of the basic building blocks of high-tech development. Included here is a mature, experienced venture capital industry staffed by professional entrepreneurs and technologists, not MBAs. A transparent judicial system is also essential, not only for protecting IP, but managing the contractual process that allows companies to put money at risk over long-periods to achieve a return. Non-Disclosure and Non-Compete agreements, a backbone of the technology industry in the US, are basically unenforceable in China. Not just here in China, but anywhere this is the case you can about kiss goodbye big-time technology innovation.

While ignoring the troubling lessons of China’s failure to produce a jet engine (as well as jet brakes and advanced radar systems) the boosters of China’s bright tech future these days most often cite two mobile phone-related businesses as signs of China’s innovation. The two are Xiaomi mobile phones, and Tencent‘s WeChat service. Both have had great success in the last year, including getting some traction in markets outside China. Look a little deeper and there’s less to be positive about.

Xiaomi is a handset manufacturer that now has a market valuation of over $10 billion, higher than just about any other mobile phone manufacturer. It relies, though, on the same group of mainly-US companies (Broadcom, Qualcomm, Google) for its phones. They, along with UK chip-maker ARM and non-Chinese screen manufacturers, are the ones making the real money on all Android phones. In addition, Xiaomi’s phones as are many cases manufactured by Taiwanese company Foxconn. As of now, China has no domestic company that can achieve Foxconn’s levels of quality at low manufacturing cost. Foxconn does this from factories in China. Its superior management systems for high-volume high-quality production also underscore another critical area where China’s domestic technology industry is weak.

With WeChat, it’s done some impressive things, in signing up over 300 million users. The basic application is similar to that of Facebook‘s WhatsApp and others. Its real technology strength is in its back end, in building and managing the servers to store all the content that is sent across WeChat, including a huge amount of video and audio files.

Whatsapp doesn’t have similar capacity. In fact, it points with pride to the fact it doesn’t backup for storage any Whatsapp customers’ conversations. Tencent does this because it’s required to do so by Chinese internet rules and government’s policies to monitor internet content. Tencent might be able to commercialize and sell globally its backend storage architecture, but it’s not clear anyone would be interested to own it. It’s a technology that evolved from specific Chinese requirements, not market demand.

Earlier this year I spoke on a panel at a conference in Shanghai of the global bio-manufacturing industry. This is precisely the sort of area where China most needs to up its game. Bio-manufacturing relies on a combination of first-rate science, cutting-edge manufacturing techniques and far-sighted management. After all the talk and the establishment of dozens of government-funded high-tech pharmaceutical science parks across China, the simple verdict was China has yet to achieve any real success in this industry.

China is not alone, of course, in having its difficulties nurturing a globally-competitive indigenous technology industry. In their time, most of the world’s advanced major economies have all tried — Germany, France, Japan, UK. All lavished government subsidies to foster domestic innovation. All made technology a policy priority. Yet, all have basically failed. If anything, the US is now more dominant in high-technology than it was at any earlier time in history. The US is home to most of the companies earning high margins, market shares and license fees for their proprietary technology.

China has already achieved what no other country has: in the course of a single generation, it has achieved the highest-ever sustained rate of growth, and so lifted hundreds of millions of its citizens out of poverty. This achievement shows the capabilities of the Chinese people, the far-sighted and pragmatic skills of its policy-makers. Both will continue to deliver benefits for China for decades to come.

For China, becoming a tech power is neither certain nor impossible. Progress can be hurt more than helped by those who engage more in hype, in predicting certain outcomes, rather than critically assess the impediments, and learn lessons from the failed efforts so many other countries have had in developing a technology industry. New thinking about innovation, and how to encourage it in China, is still lacking.

Interesting article, thank you. I am sure the author is accomplished in his field, but the same loathesome provincial thinking that pervades Silicon Valley is very much in evidence here. The monomaniacal focus on jet engines as a validator of entrepreneurial culture--really? The lack of accomplishments for an environment that is only two decades old--seriously?

That aside, if we boil down his article to the implied prescription, I agree. To succeed, China needs:

1). Strong IP rights protection
2). A transparent and efficient judicial system
3). Competition
4). Acceptance of the concept of competitive advantage

All of these things are, as they say, simple, but not easy. Respect for IP rights requires a cultural revolution, which will probably take a decade, if ever.

A transparent judicial system would require independence from the CCP, which doesn't appear likely in the short term.

Competition would require discontinuation of favoritism towards the SOEs, which are at the heart of the Chinese economy, and serve as levers of CCP influence. Even South Korea and Japan continue to struggle with the dominance of their equivalents, decades on. The United States, too, still has a sentimental attachment to the likes of General Motors. Not easy, by any means.

China's drive for autarky makes its corporations less competitive than their foreign counterparts, which can take advantage of the global supply chain and focus on the areas where they have a competitive advantage, and can provide the most value.

No question, Chinese people have the talent to succeed globally, as demonstrated by their success overseas. However, until Xi's reform and liberalization program transitions from rhetoric to actualization, the state will continue to act as a brake on the competitive impulse of the people, and largely confine the success of Chinese companies to their protected domestic market. Hopefully China will reform and unleash the entrepreneurial genius of its people for the benefit of the world. As a consumer, I would certainly welcome the competition such a scenario would provide.
 
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As a banker living and running a business in China, I very much wish it were otherwise

I’ve also run a high-tech enterprise software company in the US

as a Forbes journalist, I spent a lot of time in the USSR surveying both its military and civilian industries

Earlier this year I spoke on a panel at a conference in Shanghai of the global bio-manufacturing industry


I'm confused, what exactly is the author's expertise ?

Banker ? Software developer ? Journalist ? Pharmaceutist ? Or did he just make up those claims whenever he feels needed ?
 
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I'm confused, what exactly is the author's expertise ?

Banker ? Software developer ? Journalist ? Pharmaceutist ? Or did he just make up those claims whenever he feels needed ?

You're right. I initially thought he had some interesting criticism, but it seems he's just another blogger with delusions of grandeur. Now I feel bad for posting his BS. Most likely, he is merely an English teacher.
 
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I'm confused, what exactly is the author's expertise ?

Banker ? Software developer ? Journalist ? Pharmaceutist ? Or did he just make up those claims whenever he feels needed ?

The author is an MBA or journalism schmuck who got lucky in the dotcom boom.

He lost all credibility with his claim that jet engines are the "first rung" of technology demonstration.

Seriously?

Jet engines have been called the crowning achievement of the human intellect; the single most complicated machine ever built by the human brain. And he calls it the "first rung"?
 
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He lost all credibility when he said that he was a banker, was a journalist in the USSR, did software at Silicon valley and spoke at a biopharmaceutical meeting.

The guy either is a middle aged mid level sales manager who ran errands for his boss (and being a tourist with a cell phone camera does not mean you are a "journalist") or made everything up.

BTW, his business website is half disfunctional at any given time - I could not click to see what services he actually offers.
 
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China is still far from US.

China is just focusing on separated one or two innovations.

While US is more focusing on the whole of integrated innovation, the whole branch of technology.
 
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Interesting article, thank you. I am sure the author is accomplished in his field, but the same loathesome provincial thinking that pervades Silicon Valley is very much in evidence here. The monomaniacal focus on jet engines as a validator of entrepreneurial culture--really? The lack of accomplishments for an environment that is only two decades old--seriously?

That aside, if we boil down his article to the implied prescription, I agree. To succeed, China needs:

1). Strong IP rights protection
2). A transparent and efficient judicial system
3). Competition
4). Acceptance of the concept of competitive advantage

All of these things are, as they say, simple, but not easy. Respect for IP rights requires a cultural revolution, which will probably take a decade, if ever.

A transparent judicial system would require independence from the CCP, which doesn't appear likely in the short term.

Competition would require discontinuation of favoritism towards the SOEs, which are at the heart of the Chinese economy, and serve as levers of CCP influence. Even South Korea and Japan continue to struggle with the dominance of their equivalents, decades on. The United States, too, still has a sentimental attachment to the likes of General Motors. Not easy, by any means.

China's drive for autarky makes its corporations less competitive than their foreign counterparts, which can take advantage of the global supply chain and focus on the areas where they have a competitive advantage, and can provide the most value.

No question, Chinese people have the talent to succeed globally, as demonstrated by their success overseas. However, until Xi's reform and liberalization program transitions from rhetoric to actualization, the state will continue to act as a brake on the competitive impulse of the people, and largely confine the success of Chinese companies to their protected domestic market. Hopefully China will reform and unleash the entrepreneurial genius of its people for the benefit of the world. As a consumer, I would certainly welcome the competition such a scenario would provide.

I will say a few things regarding your four points, being Western, and American, you probably wouldn't even think of it.

1) IP is interesting, what is it really. It's something that's only worthwhile if you have it and rather annoying if you don't. Like that sliding function for Apple.

As we have previously discussed, there are already IP protection in China, again the strength, depends on the strength of the industry. Now I'm not saying any industry not in China is not going to be protected, but at some point we will rise in enough industries that protecting IP would be a must. At some point pick and choose is going to look insane, and stupid.

China suing that electric car company is a good example. Forgot the name, ironically it's over the name. On the surface, it's a frivolous law suit, and it is, but to look deeper, it is a Chinese company "protecting" their "rights." I put quotes because that's a jack.

For all the attention we been given, India pirates drugs like no other, but because their, how should we say this kindly, not so advanced economy, they can't do it on our scale. They are democratic and whatever else they usually throw at us.

So, IP will be protected, it's a matter of do we have enough to protect.


2) That's already in the books, how much we do it, and what we mean by it depends on the future, but for now, it's a problem, but it's a lot less serious than what other developing economy faces, so it's a push. If China truly just takes money away with no reason, then it's a problem.

For all the cases against Western companies recently, can you really say they didn't do anything wrong? This isn't a class room, discrimination will happen. You might argue, whether the punishment should be handed out, since all Chinese conduct this way, but the fact of the matter is, it doesn't really matter, all Nazi's kill, that didn't mean you let them off(exaggerated obviously).

Seeing as how we will soon have some 600 million middle class, I mean true middle class, whoever passes on this market do it at their own peril, because not everyone will.

3) Competition is something you can count on, competition is so crazy right now....I walk down the street one day in my home town, and see a shop, come back in a year, and the second shop is shutting down, making way for the third shop.

If you don't offer quality and price, you don't offer. If you walk down NY or something there's change, but not much, walk down China and every couple month there's change, unless you are successful, then you stick.

The party's one rule is also, no one man can have too much power, this applies to Xi as well as Ma.

I want to say something about the engines in this example, right now we can't even make the basic material for the engine effectively, well, a few of them, and this guy is blaming competition? Come on, if we divide the top guys, we are going to be more lost. As if there isn't enough pressure on them now. Right now it's not like America, build one better, it's build one period.


4) Well, we all face this problem, Europe and America too. But I get it, obviously we need to accept it, and we do, to a very great extant. You can't just look at a few cases and say we don't.

We need to do better here, but the other thing to take into account is, we need to think China first, fair can only be fair if it is fair. If we are on the same ground, obviously we can accept it if yo uare better here and we are better there. Right now it's you are better everywhere, how can we accept that, I mean without going broke.

He lost all credibility when he said that he was a banker, was a journalist in the USSR, did software at Silicon valley and spoke at a biopharmaceutical meeting.

The guy either is a middle aged mid level sales manager who ran errands for his boss (and being a tourist with a cell phone camera does not mean you are a "journalist") or made everything up.

BTW, his business website is half disfunctional at any given time - I could not click to see what services he actually offers.
WHAT!? You mean I'm not a space cowboy 007!?
 
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