China halts Iran oil orders

[Dai Toruko]

Israel and China are similar. Very greedy, small-minded and unethical.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

Then there will be another set of tariff on 250 bilion trade with US.
It seems China dont have much choice

Like a typical Hindoo, you are devoid of all logic. If US tariffs are coming no matter what, then why should China go along with the US on anything?

 

[Han Patriot]

China has already stopped.
Not a single barrel ordered by China in May.
You can see that even on oil price.com

Are you sure about that?

Like a typical Hindoo, you are devoid of all logic. If US tariffs are coming no matter what, then why should China go along with the US on anything?

Exactly, Iran can be used as a bargaining chip. Hell they are even asking us to stop Venezuelan oil, the Indians got so panicky when they singles out reliance.

 

[grey boy 2]

Israel and China are similar. Very greedy, small-minded and unethical.

Would rather being "Small Minded" any day than having an incestuous breeding damaged brain like your kind
Anyway, fcuk you very much for your insightful wisdom as always

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Israel and China are similar. Very greedy, small-minded and unethical.

Hey how come u didn't reply my post in the various other threads?


Also, if china is narrow-minded and unethical, it wouldn't have loan turkey billions of dollars

 

[Globenim]

why are people still responding to fake news? US sanctions are not UN sanctions.

But according to U.S. regime mouthpieces people familar with knowledge of the matter said!

 

[Smarana Mitra]

why are people still responding to fake news? US sanctions are not UN sanctions.

It is not fake news. It is not even USA sanctions. It is GCC (Guf Cooperation Council) sanction via USA.

Are you sure about that?


Exactly, Iran can be used as a bargaining chip. Hell they are even asking us to stop Venezuelan oil, the Indians got so panicky when they singles out reliance.

India still imports Venezuelan oil. India did not get panicky in any manner. Reliance just clarified that USA unit of reliance does not import Venezuelan oil or export diluent to Venezuela.

Iran sanction is due to Saudi led GCC pressure. You can't use it to bargain with USA. Saudi prince MBS came to China just recently to bargain and a deal was already struck to not import Iranian oil in return for some incentive from GCC. So, you will have to bargain with Saudi Arabia and other GCC countries regarding Iran. That is also the reason why india stopped Iran imports. India cant afford to antagonise GCC countries as they supply much more oil than Iran

 

[Brainsucker]

Israel and China are similar. Very greedy, small-minded and unethical.

So maybe China should ally with Israel instead than with Islamic people? Well, Israel and China have good historical relation. So why not? If Muslim countries declines China's hand of friendship. There's still Israel at the other side. But is it okay for Muslim people to lose China's friendship?Or maybe you have a Stockholm syndrome and worship the countries who have bomb and kill your people since 2001?

Then what about Turkey? You have an odd with your ally, USA. You have historical confrontation with Russia. And now you want to become China's enemy. Don't you think that your hands're too full to handle your current problem? Instead of getting new friends, you choose to add more enemies. So who will help you when your odd with USA become intense and serious? And who will be your side when Russia and Turkey relation become worsen, like in your history? Or if China become serious and retaliate because of your Xinjiang agenda?

 

[Smarana Mitra]

So maybe China should ally with Israel instead than with Islamic people? Well, Israel and China have good historical relation. So why not? If Muslim countries declines China's hand of friendship. There's still Israel at the other side. But is it okay for Muslim people to lose China's friendship?Or maybe you have a Stockholm syndrome and worship the countries who have bomb and kill your people since 2001?

Then what about Turkey? You have an odd with your ally, USA. You have historical confrontation with Russia. And now you want to become China's enemy. Don't you think that your hands're too full to handle your current problem? Instead of getting new friends, you choose to add more enemies. So who will help you when your odd with USA become intense and serious? And who will be your side when Russia and Turkey relation become worsen, like in your history? Or if China become serious and retaliate because of your Xinjiang agenda?

China will be considered as most stupid nation if it ever thinks that Abrahamic religion countries can be friends! Thinking short term like China helping turkey against USA etc is very unintelligent way. Why will you risk yourself without any meaningful assurance of proper long term friendship or stability?

 

[武成王]

China will be considered as most stupid nation if it ever thinks that Abrahamic religion countries can be friends! Thinking short term like China helping turkey against USA etc is very unintelligent way. Why will you risk yourself without any meaningful assurance of proper long term friendship or stability?

At individual level, each Chinese does has his/her own bias toward specific religion, however at the state level, China is pretty much neutral, the geopolitics and international politics are built more on reality less on ideology. China also does not treat US as an enemy although we're fighting a trade war against them, the problem is the western still lack of enough understanding or trust on China, they will eventually get used to it. For China, if you treat China as an enemy, China would be the worst enemy you could ever meet, if you treat China as a friend, China would be one of the best friend you could make.

There's no official message from either CNPC or Sinopec on stopping oil from Iran, till now.

 

[Smarana Mitra]

At individual level, each Chinese does has his/her own bias toward specific religion, however at the state level, China is pretty much neutral, the geopolitics and international politics are built more on reality less on ideology. China also does not treat US as an enemy although we're fighting a trade war against them, the problem is the western still lack of enough understanding or trust on China, they will eventually get used to it. For China, if you treat China as an enemy, China would be the worst enemy you could ever meet, if you treat China as a friend, China would be one of the best friend you could make.

There's no official message from either CNPC or Sinopec on stopping oil from Iran, till now.

There are always 2 plans - short term and long term. In the short term, immediate reality and situation matters most. But in long term, one must always plan to shape reality according to one's interest. That is where the real friendship comes. If the long term interest of two nations are reasonably close, then it can be potential ally. Short term interests only result in partnership, not alliance.

In case of Abrahamic countries, it is perfectly acceptable to do deals, business and trade. But to take on someone else and lose or harm one's own people in the process to defend them is really not reasonable. Short term trade which leads to maximum profit can be made with even those who are hostile. When it comes to countries who are having common interest like Myanmar, North Korea, Mongolia etc, it is recommended to take short term losses to maintain long term welfare.

So, China losing out just for the sake of helping Turkey or Iran makes no sense. Whichever path that leads to maximum benefit must be used. In todays case, making oil deal with iran will have negative effect with Saudi Arabia. So, it quite prudent to not trade with Iran in return for Saudi concessions.

 

[武成王]

There are always 2 plans - short term and long term. In the short term, immediate reality and situation matters most. But in long term, one must always plan to shape reality according to one's interest. That is where the real friendship comes. If the long term interest of two nations are reasonably close, then it can be potential ally. Short term interests only result in partnership, not alliance.

In case of Abrahamic countries, it is perfectly acceptable to do deals, business and trade. But to take on someone else and lose or harm one's own people in the process to defend them is really not reasonable. Short term trade which leads to maximum profit can be made with even those who are hostile. When it comes to countries who are having common interest like Myanmar, North Korea, Mongolia etc, it is recommended to take short term losses to maintain long term welfare.

So, China losing out just for the sake of helping Turkey or Iran makes no sense. Whichever path that leads to maximum benefit must be used. In todays case, making oil deal with iran will have negative effect with Saudi Arabia. So, it quite prudent to not trade with Iran in return for Saudi concessions.

It's not a simple oil business. Afghanistan and Pakistan already become the heaven of suicide bombers, if Iran were knocked down by US, Central Asia would be fully vulnerable and expose a wide attacking surface to various terrorist organizations, both Russia and China won't sit idle to see this happen. This is especially a big issue for Russia, their Caucacus region again will become hot spot of terrorism infiltration, Turkey will also become a total mess. This region can only keep stability under triple efforts from Russia, Turkey and Iran. For China, the major concern is apparently Xinjiang, China already strengthen its security cooperation with Central Asia states, e.g. donate dozen guard posts to Tajikstan along Badakhshan border region.

 

[Han Patriot]

It is not fake news. It is not even USA sanctions. It is GCC (Guf Cooperation Council) sanction via USA.


India still imports Venezuelan oil. India did not get panicky in any manner. Reliance just clarified that USA unit of reliance does not import Venezuelan oil or export diluent to Venezuela.

Iran sanction is due to Saudi led GCC pressure. You can't use it to bargain with USA. Saudi prince MBS came to China just recently to bargain and a deal was already struck to not import Iranian oil in return for some incentive from GCC. So, you will have to bargain with Saudi Arabia and other GCC countries regarding Iran. That is also the reason why india stopped Iran imports. India cant afford to antagonise GCC countries as they supply much more oil than Iran

I will bet with you China will not stop importing Iranian for the simple reason, US. Doesn't matter MBS or whoever comes, we are sovereign unlike India, once US says NO, India listens like a poodle. I HEARD India is no more buying Venezuelan due to US pressure. Don't equate us to you, we are an independent power you are nothing but a US poodle.

 

[Smarana Mitra]

I will bet with you China will not stop importing Iranian for the simple reason, US. Doesn't matter MBS or whoever comes, we are sovereign unlike India, once US says NO, India listens like a poodle. I HEARD India is no more buying Venezuelan due to US pressure. Don't equate us to you, we are an independent power you are nothing but a US poodle.

Hohoho! India is independent of USA or anyone else. India still imports oil from Venezuela, buys arms from Russia and unlike China, does not beg for USA trade deal. India does not buy Iranian oil because MBS came and made a deal. Also, GCC countries provide free oil in the form of investment to India. Iran gives nothing to India and even kicked out India from its gas reserve development.

Just see May's oil import by China and then say how much Iran oil was bought. According to tracking data of tankers, Iranian oil supply to China has been 0. China may buy Iran oil in black market under some secret deals but not openly.

 

[925boy]

Look's like Iran is done for. The country is going the way of Venezuela very quickly.

.........on paper.