China halts Burma war crimes inquiry

[Chinese-Dragon]

Deleted, off topic.

 

[ThatDamnGood]

lalala lalala

Washington's Blog

In his recently published memoir, "Without Hesitation: The Odyssey of an American Warrior," General Hugh Shelton, who served as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff from 1997 to 2001, called the Iraq war "unnecessary" and said that the Bush team went to war "based on a series of lies."

Shelton also said that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Deputy Secretary of State Paul Wolfowitz and other Pentagon officials pushed for war in Iraq "almost to the point of insubordination."

This is not some voice from the peanut gallery.

The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs is - by law - the highest ranking military officer in the United States armed forces, and the principal military adviser to the President of the United States. The Chairman outranks all respective heads of each service branch, including the heads of the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines.

 

[lunnn]

I want to know the American value of their doing in Iraq.

 

[Akasa]

Alright, every country wants situations to be in favor of them.

Every now and then we step over the line. Big deal.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Pot calling the kettle black lol.

 

[ao333]

Why bicker with an Indian poster?

 

[below_freezing]

i thought he was a white supremacist who hated jews and "chinks"

 

[Bangalorean]

Why bicker with an Indian poster?

He isn't Indian, you paranoid little man. Why can't you talk/discuss/argue without dragging India into every little thing?

 

[Hasbara Buster]

BUT, China is also wrong to help genocidal regimes like the Sudan and Myanmar.

Could you please tell us why your government supported Saddam's gassing of thousands of innocent Kurdish civilians and provided this lunatic with the necessary chemical weapons in order to accomplish this beautiful task? I can give you some 100 more examples if you want.

 

[Hasbara Buster]

 

[Hasbara Buster]

American values:

conducting genocide of the natives

defending israeli genocide

abducting citizens of other countries through lies because they have insufficient evidence to get an arrest warrant from that country

removing democratically elected leaders in Iran, Nicaragua, Honduras, Chile, etc. with dictators and kings

supporting the feudal monarchy in saudi arabia who executes women for holding having s* or not wearing a veil

extraterritorial rights for occupation soldiers in japan, south korea and phillipines

aggressive war on afghanistan and iraq with a fake reason

bombing the embassy of another power

spying on every other nation and crying about them spying on it.

American values:

invasions … bombings … overthrowing governments …
occupations … suppressing movements for social change …
assassinating political leaders … perverting elections …
manipulating labor unions … manufacturing "news" …
economic and political sanctions ... death squads …
torture … biological warfare … depleted uranium …
drug trafficking … mercenaries …

More: Killing Hope: US Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II

 

[below_freezing]

Thanks for bringing up biological warfare.

I'll just mention it: Agent Orange, Vietnam War.

You can search the photos yourselves. They are too disturbing to be placed here.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Does anyone recall a certain famous statement by an American politician regarding Iraq and Democracy in the Middle East, during the Iran-Iraq War?

 

[Molawchai]

Big deal, China halts Burma war crime inquiry? where are those secret war crimes inquiries regarding US organized coups? how many people got kill because of those coups?

Since 1945, the USA has been responsible either directly or indirectly of helping remove dozens of governments, many democratically elected, around the world. Sometimes the events are kept secret for years and only slowly come out. Other times, the events are the cause of demonstrations, anger and resentment at the time they occur.
Whenever, an event like this occurs there are two reasons to be considered.

Reason 1: The reason given by the USA, its media and its friends around the world. Reasons like Communism, Terrorism, Human Rights, Freedom, Liberation, Weapons of Mass Destruction, etc.

Reason 2: The actual reason. This is usually hidden from the general public and has to be looked for in quotes by under-reported officials or subsequent events on the ground. Often, the victims of the change of government know the real reasons better than the populations of the Western countries. Real reasons are many but usually include Business Interests, Access to Resources, Markets, Military Bases, Strategic Value, or Political Support.

In the list below only successful changes of government are listed. Many attempts have failed. Cuba is the best example of this.

Year Country Reason Given Actual Reason

1949 Syria Communism Elected government against USA political interests and pro-Palestinian.

1949 Greece Communism Elected government against USA political and economic interests.

1952 Cuba None Elected government against USA business interests.

1953 Iran None Elected government against USA oil interests.

1953 British Guyana None Access to sugar and bauxite.

1954 Guatemala Communism Elected government against USA business interests.

1955 South Vietnam Communism French backed leader replaced by USA backed leader.

1957 Haiti Haiti is near the USA Previous government against USA business interests.

1958 Laos None Pro-USA government wanted.

1959 Laos None Pro-USA government wanted.

1960 South Korea Communism Previous leader not strong enough for USA.

1960 Laos None Pro-USA government wanted.

1960 Ecuador Communism Previous government too independent in foreign policy.

1963 Dominican Republic Business Interests Elected government against USA business interests.

1963 South Vietnam None Previous leader's policies led to televised suicides.

1963 Honduras Communism Pro-USA government and access to resources.

1963 Guatemala Communism Military government was about to allow elections.

1963 Ecuador None Elected government too independent.

1964 Brazil Communism Access to resources and cheap labour.

1964 Bolivia Communism Previous government too independent in foreign policy.

1965 Zaire None Access to cobalt, copper and diamonds.

1966 Ghana None Previous government too independent in foreign policy.

1967 Greece None Military bases.

1970 Cambodia None Previous king against USA political interests.

1970 Bolivia None Country took ownership of its oil and tin.

1972 El Salvador Communism Elected leader against USA business interests.

1973 Chile Communism Elected government against USA business interests.

1975 Australia None Elected government had unsuitable foreign policy.

1979 South Korea None Pro-USA government wanted.

1980 Liberia Democracy Pro-USA government wanted.

1982 Chad None Pro-USA government wanted.

1983 Grenada Democracy Pro-USA government wanted.

1987 Fiji Democracy Previous elected government supported nuclear-free Pacific.

2002 Venezuela None Disagreed with foreign policy of elected government.

2004 Haiti Fraudulent elections Disagreed with economic policy of elected government.

2009 Honduras Attempted to Change Constitution Disagreed with economic and foreign policy of elected government.

KryssTal : USA Backed Coups

 

[Hasbara Buster]

Does anyone recall a certain famous statement by an American politician regarding Iraq and Democracy in the Middle East, during the Iran-Iraq War?

Saddam instantly became an enemy of the US after a speech during an Arab summit. He said;

"If the Gulf people and the rest of the Arabs along with them fail to take heed, the Arab Gulf region will be ruled by American will," and that the United States would dictate the production, distribution and the price of oil, "all on the basis of a special outlook which has solely to do with U.S. interests and in which no consideration is given to the interests of others."

And here some amazing facts about the Halabja massacre (massacre of Kurds with chemical weapons);

"Indeed, the U.S. had no problem backing the rule of Saddam Hussein until 1990. As one former Reagan administration official put it, "Hussein is a bastard. But at the time he was our bastard." The U.S. even helped turn the eight-year Iran-Iraq War in Iraq's favor-knowing that Iraq was using chemical weapons against Iran, yet supplying a wide range of arms to Iraq while preventing arms from reaching Iran. Nor was the U.S. deterred when, in March 1980, Saddam Hussein launched mustard- and nerve-gas attacks against Kurds in Halabja. As Geoff Simons wrote,

In the months following the Halabja massacre the U.S. government issued licenses for the delivery of biological products to the Iraqi Atomic Energy Agency. for the delivery of electronics equipment and machine tools to an Iraqi missile design center, a bomb plant, a missile factory, defense electronics factories and a weapons manufacturing complex. In July Bechtel secured a $1 billion deal m provide Iraq with a petrochemicals complex that the Iraqis intended to use in the production of mustard gas weapons, fuel-air explosives and rocket propellants.

The Reagan administration also opposed the introduction of sanctions against Iraq after the scale of the Halabja atrocity became public. After the Halabja massacres, the U.S. granted licenses for dual-use technology exports at a rate 50 percent greater than before, including missile technology and chemical-biological agents. Between 1985 and 1989, the U.S. approved 17 licenses for exports of bacterial and fungal cultures to Iraq (anthrax among them).

More; Targeting Iraq: U.S. hypocrisy and media lies