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China electric cars: Tesla’s missed target draws investors to home-grown EV makers NIO, Xpeng and LiAuto in search of value
NIO and Li Auto will post profit this year, while losses will widen at Xpeng, according to Morgan Stanley
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Topic | Electric cars
Daniel Ren
Daniel Ren

Published: 8:30pm, 1 Feb, 2021

Investor expectations of China’s three leading upstart electric vehicle (EV) makers remain as upbeat as ever despite Tesla’s lower-than-expected quarterly earnings. The outlook for NIO, Xpeng and Li Auto remains positive, with one investment bank expecting two of the start-ups to achieve profitability which could push their shares even higher, spurred by mainland drivers’ rising penchant for green cars, Beijing’s ambitions to become a global leader in electric cars and ample funds flowing into the sector. “Consumers’ changing attitude towards EVs bodes well for the outlook,” said UBS analyst Paul Gong. “Tesla’s locally-built cars convinced more Chinese drivers that EV is a choice, hence bolstering the overall market. The second-generation of Chinese-made EVs, with advantages in cars’ performance and production costs, are worth expecting.” According to a report by Morgan Stanley last week, NIO is likely to post a profit for the first time and double its revenue this year. The investment bank expects the start-up to rake in sales of 33.6 billion yuan (US$5.2 billion), up from an estimated 16.8 billion yuan last year. It also expects a small profit of 6 million yuan, compared to a loss of 4.4 billion yuan in 2020. On Monday, NIO reported a 352.1 per cent rise in January sales, delivering a record 7,225 vehicles.

The bank also expects Li Auto to turn a maiden profit in 2021. A profit of 980 million yuan is forecast compared to an estimated loss of 541 million yuan in 2020, while revenue is expected to jump 92 per cent year on year to 17.96 billion yuan. Xpeng, which is forecast to post a 126 per cent jump in revenue to 13.95 billion yuan this year, would see its losses widen to 4.23 billion yuan, from an estimated 3.56 billion yuan in 2020, the bank said. The Guangzhou-based carmaker said on Monday that deliveries in January jumped 470 per cent from last year to 6,015 vehicles. It sold 3,710 P7 sedans and 2,305 G3 SUVs.

The forecasts for the Chinese start-ups, all of which are listed in New York, coincided with Tesla’s fourth-quarter earnings that fell short of market expectations. The US electric car maker said on Wednesday that its adjusted fourth-quarter profit was valued at 80 US cents a share, missing analysts’ consensus estimate of US$1.03.

Tesla’s lower profit could be attributed to the price cuts, said Ding Haifeng, a consultant with Shanghai-based financial advisory firm Integrity. “It is an ominous sign for Chinese rivals that fiercer competition could dim the outlook and affect their earnings,” he said. “A sound market environment may not necessarily lead to better performance for every player.” Tesla’s results pushed its shares 8.2 per cent lower to US$793.53 on Friday, setting off declines in the shares of New York Stock Exchange-listed Xpeng and NIO. Xpeng shed 3.6 per cent to US$48.18 and NIO eased 0.3 per cent to US$57. Nasdaq-listed Li Auto, however, bucked the trend, advancing 2.2 per cent to US$32.25.

 
Tesla will likely grow around 75% this year. And begin ramping in Berlin and Austin.

All of China’s EV companies are riding Tesla’s coattails.
 
Tesla will likely grow around 75% this year. And begin ramping in Berlin and Austin.

All of China’s EV companies are riding Tesla’s coattails.
Tesla is counting it's luck in China market. The company that really make money selling EV product is BYD. Ask warren buffett.

2021 is the year tesla going to face strong challenge in China. Tesla just failed it's fourth quarter target. The crack has shown. While Xpeng, Nio, BYD , Li all achieved continue growth. All at expense of tesla sales. :enjoy:


Nio, Xpeng, Li Auto Sales Soar To Start 2021 After 2020 Boom
 
Tesla is counting it's luck in China market. The company that really make money selling EV product is BYD. Ask warren buffett.

2021 is the year tesla going to face strong challenge in China. Tesla just failed it's fourth quarter target. The crack has shown. While Xpeng, Nio, BYD , Li all achieved continue growth. All at expense of tesla sales. :enjoy:


Nio, Xpeng, Li Auto Sales Soar To Start 2021 After 2020 Boom

More predictions Beast? As if the last two worked out well for you? Tesla will continue dominating, including the Chinese market.
 
More predictions Beast? As if the last two worked out well for you? Tesla will continue dominating, including the Chinese market.
Yes. The crack has shown. Tesla share price will stopped below USD 400 soon.

Tesla dominate for a year only and you talk as if the race ended? The road ahead is still long. And local Chinese EV brand are doing very well as my article posted proves that. :enjoy:

Tesla occupied only 11% of Chinese market with the rest all occupied by Chinese EV brand and u can called that domination?
 
Yes. The crack has shown. Tesla share price will stopped below USD 400 soon.

Tesla dominate for a year only and you talk as if the race ended? The road ahead is still long. And local Chinese EV brand are doing very well as my article posted proves that. :enjoy:

Tesla occupied only 11% of Chinese market with the rest all occupied by Chinese EV brand and u can called that domination?


Tesla’s share price will likely be $1000-$1500 by the end of the year and I’m conservative. And with Berlin and Austin fully ramping, new 4680 cells, Cybertruck full ramp, new Gigas, and Model “2” $25k vehicle, 2022 will likely see the share price reach $2000+. Tesla is just getting started.
 
Tesla’s share price will likely be $1000-$1500 by the end of the year and I’m conservative. And with Berlin and Austin fully ramping, new 4680 cells, Cybertruck full ramp, new Gigas, and Model “2” $25k vehicle, 2022 will likely see the share price reach $2000+. Tesla is just getting started.
Tesla is facing a lot of challenge from rivals. Tesla do not control core technology and supply. I am betting BYD better. They make the battery, EV of all kinds plus being supplier to many other companies. There is reason why Warren Buffet buys BYD.

Cracks are showing for Tesla. :enjoy:
 
Tesla is facing a lot of challenge from rivals. Tesla do not control core technology and supply. I am betting BYD better. They make the battery, EV of all kinds plus being supplier to many other companies. There is reason why Warren Buffet buys BYD.

Cracks are showing for Tesla. :enjoy:

All other EV companies are living in Tesla’s shadow. There really is no competition. That’s not to say there can’t be another successful EV company. Their just fighting for second place. Tesla has already won the decade. Tesla is an all timer company.
 
All other EV companies are living in Tesla’s shadow. There really is no competition. That’s not to say there can’t be another successful EV company. Their just fighting for second place. Tesla has already won the decade. Tesla is an all timer company.
Lol.. self delusion. The race just started and desperate american whine hard to cover the crack? 11% pie of China? 89% of the remaining pie is occupied by Chinese EV companies..
 

Headhunters are recruiting for Baidu to build cars, this time for a mid-level cadre, Sina Tech reported Tuesday, adding that the joint venture is likely to be set up in Shanghai.

The external recruitment is the second round of hiring. The first round is the company's internal smart-car-related technical positions, in which these employees first left Baidu, and then joined the joint venture company established by Baidu and Geely, Sina Tech said, citing Baidu employees.

Baidu announced in early January that it was forming a smart car company to enter the auto industry as a vehicle manufacturer. Geely Holding Group will become a strategic partner of the new company.

The newly formed Baidu car company will target the passenger car market and will focus on the entire industry chain of smart car design and development, manufacturing and sales services, the company said.



According to Sina Tech, the company currently has only two shareholders, Baidu and Geely, with Baidu in a dominant position, accounting for about 51 percent of the joint venture, while Geely focuses on providing production capacity and the Sustainable Experience Architecture (SEA) intelligent evolutionary experience architecture, accounting for about 49 percent of the joint venture.


The mid-level cadre of this recruitment has been less relevant to the core technology of car manufacturing, indicating that the recruitment of Baidu car manufacturing has entered an advanced stage and the basic framework has been set up, the report said.

Previously, the WM W6, developed by Baidu and WM Motor in cooperation, was sold as Apollo autonomous parking, but Baidu was only one of the suppliers in the product area in it.

Even though Baidu has invested heavily in Apollo, there are still no car companies willing to hand over the most core intelligent modules to Baidu as a supplier, so Baidu chose to build its own car, Sina Tech quoted an expert as saying.




Baidu as the first of the Internet giants to build a car, the model is better than the strategic cooperationbetween Internet companies and traditional car companies, Sina Tech quoted experts as saying, adding that if cooperating with car companies as supplier only to see an unpopular product, making your own car is the best choice, and Baidu has the ability to do this.

"No matter how negative the outside reviews are, with Baidu and Geely, this project is indeed attractive in the primary market." Sina Tech quoted an expert as saying, adding that after missing out on NIO, many people want a piece of the capital market with Baidu's car-making project.

There are many Baidu employees who are not optimistic about the future of Baidu's car-making. "It's either a news release to stimulate the stock price, or Baidu is executing at a later stage, and there may be one problem or another." They claim.

But there are people who are firmly optimistic.After all, Baidu has invested enough money and manpower in the field of autonomous driving, with a sufficient technical reserve.

Baidu's stock price rose 67 percent in a month because of the car-making rumors, and both Baidu and Geely shares rose after the car-making information was announced, bringing Baidu's market value back to $80 billion.




Baidu is in hiring spree for its car-making arm-cnEVpost
 
no worry. tesla will do another price cut. they have plenty of cash from the fraud stock market to blow.
 
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