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China and India at War: Study Contemplates Conflict Between Asian Giants

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There are plenty of reasons why China and India won't go to war. The two Asian giants hope to reach $100 billion in annual bilateral trade by 2015. Peace and stability are watchwords for both nations' rise on the world stage. Yet tensions between the neighbors seem inescapable: they face each other across a heavily militarized nearly 4,000km-long border and are increasingly competing against each other in a scramble for natural resources around the world. Indian fears over Chinese projects along the Indian Ocean rim were matched recently by Beijing's ire over growing Indian interests in the South China Sea, a body of water China controversially claims as its exclusive territorial sphere of influence. Despite the sense of optimism and ambition that drives these two states, which comprise between them nearly a third of humanity, the legacy of the brief 1962 Sino-Indian war (a humiliating blow for India) still smolders nearly five decades later.

And it's alive on the pages of a new policy report issued by the Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses in New Delhi, an independent think tank that is affiliated with India's Ministry of Defense. "A Consideration of Sino-Indian Conflict" is hardly a hawkish tract — it advocates "war avoidance" — but, by spelling out a few concrete scenarios of how conflict may look between the two countries, it reveals the palpable lack of trust on the part of strategists both in New Delhi and Beijing. The report applauds long-term Indian efforts underway to beef up defenses along the Chinese border, but warns that Beijing may still take action:

In future, India could be subject to China's hegemonic attention. Since India would be better prepared by then, China may instead wish to set India back now by a preventive war. This means current day preparedness is as essential as preparation for the future. A [defeat] now will have as severe political costs, internally and externally, as it had back in 1962; for, as then, India is yet again contemplating a global role.

While a lot of recent media attention has focused on the likelihood of Sino-Indian clashes at sea, the IDSA report keeps its scope trained along the traditional, glacial Himalayan land boundary, referred to in wonkish parlance as the LAC, the Line of Actual Control. Since the 1962 war, China and India have yet to formally resolve longstanding disputes over vast stretches of territory along this line. Those disputes have resurfaced noticeably in recent years, with China making unprecedented noises, much to the alarm of New Delhi, over its historical claims to the entirety of the northeastern Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh — what the Chinese deem "Southern Tibet." The Chinese even rebuked Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh for having the audacity of visiting the Indian state during local elections in 2009.

Not surprisingly, it's in this remote corner of the world that many suspect a war could kick off, particularly around the historic Tibetan monastery town of Tawang. India has reinforced its position in Arunachal with more boots on the ground, new missile defenses and some of the Indian air force's best strike craft, new Russian-made Su-30 fighters. After decades of focusing its army west against perennial threat Pakistan, India is tacitly realigning its military east to face the long-term challenge of China.

The report speculates that China could make a targeted territorial grab, "for example, a bid to take Tawang." Further west along the LAC, another flashpoint lies in Kashmir. China controls a piece of largely uninhabited territory known as Aksai Chin that it captured during the 1962 war. Indian press frequently publish alarmist stories about Chinese incursions from Aksai Chin and elsewhere, playing up the scale of Chinese investment in strategic infrastructure on its side of the border in stark contrast to the seeming lethargy of Indian planners. Part of what fuels the anxiety in New Delhi, as the report notes, is the threat of coordinated action between China and Pakistan — an alliance built largely out of years of mutual antipathy toward India. In one mooted scenario, Pakistan, either with its own forces or terrorist, insurgent proxies, would "make diversionary moves" across the blood-stained Siachen glacier or Kargil, site of the last Indo-Pakistani war in 1999, while a Chinese offensive strikes further east along the border.

Of course, such table-top board game maneuvers have little purchase in present geo-politics. Direct, provocative action suits no player in the region, particularly when there's the specter of American power — a curious absence in the IDSA report — hovering on the sidelines. Intriguingly, the report seems to dismiss the notion that China and India would clash in what others would consider obvious hotspots for rivalry; it says the landlocked Himalayan kingdom of Bhutan would likely be treated as a neutral "Switzerland", while Nepal, a country of 40 million that entertains both Beijing and New Delhi's patronage, is more or less assured that neither of its big neighbors would risk violating its sovereignty in the event of war.

Moreover, the IDSA seems to rule out either side encouraging or deploying proxies in more clandestine struggles against the other. The restive border regions on both sides of the LAC are home to resentful minority populations and more than a few insurgent factions. India and China — unlike Pakistan — have little precedent in abetting militant groups and strategists on both sides would be wary of fanning flames of rebellion that no one can put out.

Yet what seems to stoke Sino-Indian military tensions — and grim prophecies of conflict — are precisely these feelings of vulnerability. The uncertainties posed by both countries' astonishing economic growth, the lack of clear communication and trust between Beijing and New Delhi and the strong nationalism underlying both Indian and Chinese public opinion could unsettle the uneasy status quo that now exists. Managing all this is a task for wooly-heads in New Delhi and Beijing. But don't be surprised if more reports like this one come out, drawing lines on the battlefield.

Read more: War-Gaming: Study Contemplates Conflict Between India and China - Global Spin - TIME.com
 
In future, India could be subject to China's hegemonic attention. Since India would be better prepared by then, China may instead wish to set India back now by a preventive war. This means current day preparedness is as essential as preparation for the future. A [defeat] now will have as severe political costs, internally and externally, as it had back in 1962; for, as then, India is yet again contemplating a global role.
That's why it's so amusing to me that India tries so hard to provoke China. India is giving China a great excuse to take India out quickly before it gets too powerful.

The outgoing Chinese leadership is extremely peaceful. But you kept provoking China anyway. Now the incoming Chinese leadership is military hawks. So India will now eat the fruits it has sown.
 
That's why it's so amusing to me that India tries so hard to provoke China. India is giving China a great excuse to take India out quickly before it gets too powerful.

The outgoing Chinese leadership is extremely peaceful. But you kept provoking China anyway. Now the incoming Chinese leadership is military hawks. So India will now eat the fruits it has sown.


waiting for the fruits....do let us know the date and time, we will come and eat them up!! ...enough of this so called chinese supremacy propaganda u ccp ppl ve made post humilation from Japanese....i think u ve much better memories than any other country in asian continent...so go and kill urself for being unwanted!!
 
We need more of those India vs China stuffs, so it can generate more debates in this forum. :pop:
 
What I dont understand is that we get western and indian strategists and analyst telling us how much better india will be prepared in 5 years. It seems a bit like my 4 year old on his birthday he said daddy im getting older im going to catch up to you soon. And I said yes my son lol. I mean the chinese have more reserves the chinese high command can see procurement is getting on in india. Are they going to go home and play with bangles and wait for india to catch up?
 
That's why it's so amusing to me that India tries so hard to provoke China. India is giving China a great excuse to take India out quickly before it gets too powerful.

The outgoing Chinese leadership is extremely peaceful. But you kept provoking China anyway. Now the incoming Chinese leadership is military hawks. So India will now eat the fruits it has sown.

Hu Jintao was told to play the dove. Because during his term, China is still not strong enough to contain US, that's why China has to keep low profile.

Xi Jinping can play the hawk because during his late term, China will be a 20 trillion economy, so you have a lot of leverage to be a tough guy.
 
@CCP

Economy which is based on export of non essential items using currency manipulation and human rights violation wont get u the place of america!!!

ur country is America's contractor for manufactuing ecologically hazardous products....at any point in time..they can change the game!!

and ur so called 20 tr dollar economy...lol...u will see civil riots in ur country if americal pulls the plug!

just sit and thing...what do u export???
 
@CCP

Economy which is based on export of non essential items using currency manipulation and human rights violation wont get u the place of america!!!

ur country is America's contractor for manufactuing ecologically hazardous products....at any point in time..they can change the game!!

and ur so called 20 tr dollar economy...lol...u will see civil riots in ur country if americal pulls the plug!

just sit and thing...what do u export???

Haha, you are free to say whatever you want.

But the fact is, China will always be there, and nobody can stop her. :whistle:
 
waiting for the fruits....do let us know the date and time, we will come and eat them up!! ...enough of this so called chinese supremacy propaganda u ccp ppl ve made post humilation from Japanese....i think u ve much better memories than any other country in asian continent...so go and kill urself for being unwanted!!

Haha dont make me laugh big boy your country is nothing compare to china
 
i would love the day when india tries something stupid; that would give china the perfect excuse to crush them once and for all. and then split the indian pie up between pakistan and china. now that's a feast i would not miss!
 
i would love the day when india tries something stupid; that would give china the perfect excuse to crush them once and for all. and then split the indian pie up between pakistan and china. now that's a feast i would not miss!

Their elites know very well how China can overwhelmingly overpower them, only the fanboys are making so much noise.
 
Their elites know very well how China can overwhelmingly overpower them, only the fanboys are making so much noise.

As europe is coming to china with a begging bowl , we dont need to fight india ourself we can ask the french to do it for us LOL
 
I was listening to an article on BBC Radio 4. It was based around how much noise and smoke India was making suggesting they were challenging and ready to take on the Chinise as the next supreme power. They are always announcing what new technology they are going to purchase from Russia and then the Russians here their gloating and on several occassions doubling the price etc. They have a habit at gathering all the "drum boys" and making big volume to their media at what they plan to do in the next 3 years.
At the other end China simply go and do it and release the news when they have achieved their goal. They dont need to announce - the world knows when China wants it to know. It really is that simple.
 
If India didn't act to obey US's interests in order to contain growing China, USA will do something to punish India or scare them then India will start aggressive war against China. Indians people love it.

US play a trick game, not only China, it will also affect India economy downfalls to protect US superpower status of the world.
 
If India didn't act to obey US's interests in order to contain growing China, USA will do something to punish India or scare them then India will start aggressive war against China. Indians people love it.

US play a trick game, not only China, it will also affect India economy downfalls.

Funny thing is the Indians believe the cr*p the USA come out with and dont realize all they are doing is being used in this little game. China has little to fear because its leaps and leaps ahead in every way!
 

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